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1. Clean up your grammar. It is very difficult to tell what exactly you are saying,
2. The Vatican was not involved in the holocaust
3. In reality, Islam is as tolerant as any other western religion.
4. It depends on how old you are and what type of history you are taking that determines what kind of textbook you use. They all focus on different things and leave certain things out in order to leave room for more detail.
...It looks to me like you are just a christian hater. (this is all coming from an atheist)
EDIT: Here you go champ...
Alright I was looking at one of my history books and I saw this " Jesus was thought to have been born around 4-6 BC really he was crucified at 6 amazing. Also this "Persecution of the Christian". Yeah they were persecuted for a while, but theres nothin gin this book about The Flagellants, The Vaticans role in the Holocaust, or the Spanish inquisition. Way to make Christianity look perfect an dflawless with no problems whatsoever. Anything about Islam in the book has mainly to do with the Ottoman Turks, nothing about how Islam when it first started was actually one of the most tolerant religions and the Qur'an says Muslims Christians and Jews worship the same God. They were tolerant towards Christians and Jews. But idol-worshippers were always given the same choice: Convert or die. Also, don't ask about the Banu Qurayza. Gee it's looking to me like the US education likes religious bia and one-sided portrayals of history...mealex
Does it mention anything bad about Islam? Because if not, it's not really one-sided, it's most likely just trying too hardto avoid offending anybody.
It's true that the Vatican turned a blind eye to the Holocaust- basically at one point Mussolini had no choice but to let the Germans in to round up Jews, and the Pope didn't respond to repeated requests from many people, Jewish and not Jewish.
But I would like to know what year the book you are reading was made. I'd also like to know where you are from and why you are readin an American History book.
Show me a man who has read a thousand books and I will show you an educated man.
Show me a man who has read one book and I will show you a dangerous man
Alright I was looking at one of my history books and I saw this " Jesus was thought to have been born around 4-6 BC really he was crucified at 6 amazing. Also this "Persecution of the Christian". Yeah they were persecuted for a while, but theres nothin gin this book about The Flagellants, The Vaticans role in the Holocaust, or the Spanish inquisition. Way to make Christianity look perfect an dflawless with no problems whatsoever. Anything about Islam in the book has mainly to do with the Ottoman Turks, nothing about how Islam when it first started was actually one of the most tolerant religions and the Qur'an says Muslims Christians and Jews worship the same God. Gee it's looking to me like the US education likes religious bia and one-sided portrayals of history...mealex
Jesus was crucified around 30AD....more or less....He was thought to have been 33. Your math is off.
Yes, Christians were persecuted...that IS a true fact. The flagellants were an extreme group of people that did not represent the church. Your point?
The Vatican did not play a part in the Holocaust....and to be honest, until the war was over....most people didn't know what went on in those camps.
The Spanish Inquisition was handled by the monarchs...not the church.
History records events....peaceful people of any religion don't created events. They live and die.
That is what the Qur'an says....and? We don't teach religion dogma here.
This thread.....fails.
This thread does not fails. It has a valid point. Secondly. telling a wrong date does not mean his MATH is off. His dates are, BIG difference.
History records events....peaceful people of any religion don't created event
I beg to differ, History of Makkah.
Of course this thread fails....all his points were incaccurate.This thread does not fails. It has a valid point. Secondly. telling a wrong date does not mean his MATH is off. His dates are, BIG difference.
UltraZero
O-kay, this is stupid.:roll:
There is no bias, Christ was NOTcrucified at 6 (He was 32 I believe) your history book may be apologetic, there are THOUSANDS of books on the "evils" of Christianity for you to look at, and Christianity, Judaism, and Islam do NOT worship the same God.
Adieu.
I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.Mumbles527
[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.foxhound_fox
I don't think Family Guy is an accurate representation of what is taught in Germany.:|
[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.foxhound_fox
If Germany repeats WW1 and WW2, I swear this time there will be NO SURVIVORS when we invade Germany...
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.LJS9502_basic
I don't think Family Guy is an accurate representation of what is taught in Germany.:|
Yeah, Foxhound is screwing up today, but, that babe in his avatar is so hot, and his banner... Oh yeah!!!!!
If Germany repeats WW1 and WW2, I swear this time there will be NO SURVIVORS when we invade Germany...
NicktehImperial
Leave Deutschland alone....
Germans are really apologetic about the Holocaust, from what I understand... although that leads to the intense paranoia of anything like it happening in the future, which is why Nazi symbols are completely banned.Funkyhamster
Its called a "Swastica", and in Soviet Russia, Swastica bans YOU!!!!!!
[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]If Germany repeats WW1 and WW2, I swear this time there will be NO SURVIVORS when we invade Germany...
LJS9502_basic
Leave Deutschland alone....
In Russia, Deutschland leaves YOU alone!!!!!!1
I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.Mumbles527
Hmm, I think it's pretty similar to what the American history books say about the genocide of the natives. (no offense)
[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.jointed
Hmm, I think it's pretty similar to what the American history books say about the genocide of the natives. (no offense)
Yeah, except for the Rednecks, we Americans are very self loathing, and sometimes it leads to lies and exagerations.
Like look at all the reverse racism on white men!!!!! We built giant cities, and miles of aquaducts and roads 2000 years ago for nothing!!!!!! This sucks!!!!!11
[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.jointed
Hmm, I think it's pretty similar to what the American history books say about the genocide of the natives. (no offense)
It's not a secret what happened to the natives dude.
[QUOTE="mealex"]Alright I was looking at one of my history books and I saw this " Jesus was thought to have been born around 4-6 BC really he was crucified at 6 amazing. Also this "Persecution of the Christian". Yeah they were persecuted for a while, but theres nothin gin this book about The Flagellants, The Vaticans role in the Holocaust, or the Spanish inquisition. Way to make Christianity look perfect an dflawless with no problems whatsoever. Anything about Islam in the book has mainly to do with the Ottoman Turks, nothing about how Islam when it first started was actually one of the most tolerant religions and the Qur'an says Muslims Christians and Jews worship the same God. Gee it's looking to me like the US education likes religious bia and one-sided portrayals of history...LJS9502_basic
The Spanish Inquisition was handled by the monarchs...not the church.
Spanish Inquisition WAS lead by the church, don't you remember torquemada? he was no monarch
EDIT: Here you go champ...
xboxdudeman800
Wow...that's really, sad. To think that, even now, people will still criticize him for doing nothing...
[QUOTE="UltraZero"]Of course this thread fails....all his points were incaccurate.This thread does not fails. It has a valid point. Secondly. telling a wrong date does not mean his MATH is off. His dates are, BIG difference.
LJS9502_basic
SOME OF HIS points indeed. the point of the thread does not.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mealex"]Alright I was looking at one of my history books and I saw this " Jesus was thought to have been born around 4-6 BC really he was crucified at 6 amazing. Also this "Persecution of the Christian". Yeah they were persecuted for a while, but theres nothin gin this book about The Flagellants, The Vaticans role in the Holocaust, or the Spanish inquisition. Way to make Christianity look perfect an dflawless with no problems whatsoever. Anything about Islam in the book has mainly to do with the Ottoman Turks, nothing about how Islam when it first started was actually one of the most tolerant religions and the Qur'an says Muslims Christians and Jews worship the same God. Gee it's looking to me like the US education likes religious bia and one-sided portrayals of history...Aumala
The Spanish Inquisition was handled by the monarchs...not the church.
Spanish Inquisition WAS lead by the church, don't you remember torquemada? he was no monarch
The inquistion was started by Ferdinand II Aragon.....Torquemada was not the leader of the church nor did the inquistors report to the church....but to the monarchy. So no...it was not a church inquisition.
[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]I've always wondered what German history books say about the holocaust. "Yeah, we admit it...we ****ed up...big time" Thats pretty much what I'd imagine it would say.foxhound_fox
You mean this one?
Alright I was looking at one of my history books and I saw this " Jesus was thought to have been born around 4-6 BC really he was crucified at 6 amazing. Also this "Persecution of the Christian". Yeah they were persecuted for a while, but theres nothin gin this book about The Flagellants, The Vaticans role in the Holocaust, or the Spanish inquisition. Way to make Christianity look perfect an dflawless with no problems whatsoever. Anything about Islam in the book has mainly to do with the Ottoman Turks, nothing about how Islam when it first started was actually one of the most tolerant religions and the Qur'an says Muslims Christians and Jews worship the same God. Gee it's looking to me like the US education likes religious bia and one-sided portrayals of history...mealex
News for you: all history books are biased in all countries. For example, in here the American Revolution is taught a certain way. Go to England and well, it's not exactly the same. The history of the world depends on the country. It's up to you to judge them with the accurate info. That's what good history teachers say too, don't trust the book you're reading all the time.
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