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I don't know why this isn't a classified as a hate crime.
Double standards suck.
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This is just excuse to beat random people up "for Trayvon." The double standards in America are so thick you can cut it with a steak knife
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]Yes because liberals play on hatreds and divide our countryIt is a hate crime, no question. One more reason why our world sucks.
TrashBoat
Yes because liberals play on hatreds and divide our country[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
It is a hate crime, no question. One more reason why our world sucks.
coolbeans90
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="TrashBoat"] Yes because liberals play on hatreds and divide our countrydave123321
Not that I support the Trayvon shooting in any way, but that gives blac people no right to beat up white people. I'm not racist in any way but this thing is just ridiculous... and not being investigated as a hate crime? Wow I fvcking love double standards.
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I don't know why this isn't a classified as a hate crime.
Double standards suck.
kingkong0124
There are no double standards here. You need more than an uncorobborated account from the victim's sister to classify something as a hate crime. As the cops said, it's an assault case. Kudos should be given to the police department for their swift action into launching an investigation. Also, on the very positive note, Mr. Owens is still above ground.
If Trayvon's name was invoked, shame on the assailants. Let the boy rest in peace.
Out of curiosity, why do you feel this should be classified as a hate crime TC?
Because the Al Sharptons and Jess Jacksons take advantage of inner cities and the less educated (which is not necessarily their fault rather our education system's) as well as fanning racial flames for their own success. Jesse Jackson has been known to make anti-semitic statements. All the "blacks" I met can not stand either man.I predicted this sadly.
Pirate700
[QUOTE="dave123321"]I hope this does not cause whites to attack blackssayyy-gaa
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
Why?[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
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I don't know why this isn't a classified as a hate crime.
Double standards suck.
sayyy-gaa
Out of curiosity, why do you feel this should be classified as a hate crime TC?
Because it seems like every time something is done against a minority it is investigated as a hate crime.
How is FN trying to race bait if if that's Mayor said? Are they not supposed to report that?"Police will certainly explore a racial motive if the evidence supports it." - Sam Jones, Mayor of Mobile, Alabama.
Fox News seems to just be trying to race bait
If you really care about hate crimes you should get your news from the SPLC.
-Sun_Tzu-
How is FN trying to race bait if if that's Mayor said? Are they not supposed to report that? The problem is they didn't report that. The mayor's quote was completely absent from the article.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
"Police will certainly explore a racial motive if the evidence supports it." - Sam Jones, Mayor of Mobile, Alabama.
Fox News seems to just be trying to race bait
If you really care about hate crimes you should get your news from the SPLC.
Pirate700
[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
[QUOTE="dave123321"]I hope this does not cause whites to attack blacksPirate700
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
I'm looking out my window. I see mountain ranges. What's your point? I look out my window and see a small tree and my car. Oh and other trees. And other cars and some houses. And a mailbox. Oh more then oe.[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
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I don't know why this isn't a classified as a hate crime.
Double standards suck.
turtlethetaffer
Out of curiosity, why do you feel this should be classified as a hate crime TC?
Because it seems like every time something is done against a minority it is investigated as a hate crime.
Dude, there's no evidence based on the article I just read(if there's more to it I don't know) to support a hate crime. Some kids ran and told their [ignorant] parents that some man was picking on them. Those parents assaulted said man. Only the victim's sister claims that a potentially racist comment was made. Now if other witnesses come out, or if someone with a camera emerges with the incident on tape and audio available, I can understand.
But based on what was presented in the full length Fox article, that's not enough.
[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"][QUOTE="dave123321"]I hope this does not cause whites to attack blacksTrashBoat
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
So because dead white people were racists that gives anyone who is not white the right to be a jerk to whites? I don't think that's what he meant.Mhm"Police will certainly explore a racial motive if the evidence supports it." - Sam Jones, Mayor of Mobile, Alabama.
Fox News seems to just be trying to race bait
If you really care about hate crimes you should get your news from the SPLC.
-Sun_Tzu-
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I'm looking out my window. I see mountain ranges. What's your point? I look out my window and see a small tree and my car. Oh and other trees. And other cars and some houses. And a mailbox. Oh more then oe.[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
dave123321
I look out and my window and see trees of green....red roses too.
[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"][QUOTE="dave123321"]I hope this does not cause whites to attack blacksTrashBoat
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
So because dead white people were racists that gives anyone who is not white the right to be a jerk to whites?That's not what I said. Btw, plenty of living white people are racists as well. What I implied is that whites already have been attacking blacks in this country to varying degrees. To be clear I'm not talking about all whites and all blacks. I'm not painting a broad brush.
But facts are facts.
Was he just some white guy that got beaten up because he was white and people were angry about Trayvon? Or was it something else?
I feel like the first would be incredibly stupid. It would be like punching a random Mexican just because Carlos Mencia sucks. Its not his fault Carlos Mencia sucks, he probably hates him too.
Likewise, if he was actually beat up for this, then the people who did the beating up are probably too stupid to understand the irony in them committing their own hate crime because of another unrelated hate crime to the one they were committing, and there's a chance it wasn't even a hate crime in the first place.
That said, I'm hoping this is just the media spinning things out of proportion and there was an actual reason this happened aside from that.
So because dead white people were racists that gives anyone who is not white the right to be a jerk to whites?[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
Have you looked out the window(or in a history book) lately?
sayyy-gaa
That's not what I said. Btw, plenty of living white people are racists as well. What I implied is that whites already have been attacking blacks in this country to varying degrees. To be clear I'm not talking about all whites and all blacks. I'm not painting a broad brush.
But facts are facts.
So because some white men are douche bags or violent that gives anyone who is not white the right to be douche bags or violent to random white people? That is another problem I have with liberals, they hate any white man because they read a history book and ignore that anyone can be a bad person or a criminal.Here is the article I got the quote from http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/46/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/-Sun_Tzu-Thx for the link dude. That accounting of events is much more balanced than the fox article, which is more on the sensational side. Still, I don't see hate crime here. I see fed up parents.
However, I could see more of a case for it if that anonymous woman reported this incident to the police and not news reporters. But i can see how the public would view it that way with more accounts of it. Seriously, how much can you hear if you are just passing by? And if she was driving by and saw a man getting his a$$ whooped by an angry mob, why didn't she call the cops? Sounds fishy.
:lol: So random.[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
It would be like punching a random Mexican just because Carlos Mencia sucks. Its not his fault Carlos Mencia sucks
Pirate700
Well its an analogy that fits. This white guy was beat up because some George Zimmerman killed Trayvon, even though its not his fault that happened and he wasn't even involved.
Thx for the link dude. That accounting of events is much more balanced than the fox article, which is more on the sensational side. Still, I don't see hate crime here. I see fed up parents.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Here is the article I got the quote from http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/46/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/sayyy-gaa
However, I could see more of a case for it if that anonymous woman reported this incident to the police and not news reporters. But i can see how the public would view it that way with more accounts of it. Seriously, how much can you hear if you are just passing by? And if she was driving by and saw a man getting his a$$ whooped by an angry mob, why didn't she call the cops? Sounds fishy.
Two people heard "That's justice for Trayvon" and you still don't think at least one of those people had any racial motives?
Given the vitriolic rhetoric that emerged from the Martin/Zimmerman incident, it's not really a surprise something like this occurred.
:lol: So random. He is only half mexican... He has not even been on the air for years. I think its funny as **** how many people loathe comedians like him and Dane Cook. Just do not watch them XD[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
It would be like punching a random Mexican just because Carlos Mencia sucks. Its not his fault Carlos Mencia sucks
Pirate700
Thx for the link dude. That accounting of events is much more balanced than the fox article, which is more on the sensational side. Still, I don't see hate crime here. I see fed up parents.[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Here is the article I got the quote from http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/46/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/Chutebox
However, I could see more of a case for it if that anonymous woman reported this incident to the police and not news reporters. But i can see how the public would view it that way with more accounts of it. Seriously, how much can you hear if you are just passing by? And if she was driving by and saw a man getting his a$$ whooped by an angry mob, why didn't she call the cops? Sounds fishy.
Two people heard "That's justice for Trayvon" and you still don't think at least one of those people had any racial motives?
It's an ongoing investigation. Arrests haven't even been made yet. As the mayor said, when the investigation concludes and they find there to be sufficient evidence to support a racial motive, they will pursue it.[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"][QUOTE="TrashBoat"] So because dead white people were racists that gives anyone who is not white the right to be a jerk to whites?TrashBoat
That's not what I said. Btw, plenty of living white people are racists as well. What I implied is that whites already have been attacking blacks in this country to varying degrees. To be clear I'm not talking about all whites and all blacks. I'm not painting a broad brush.
But facts are facts.
So because some white men are douche bags or violent that gives anyone who is not white the right to be douche bags or violent to random white people? That is another problem I have with liberals, they hate any white man because they read a history book and ignore that anyone can be a bad person or a criminal.I never said that. DO NOT put words in my mouth.I didn't say "any white man". Matter of fact, I SPECIFICALLY didn't say that.
I'm surprised it took this long, let alone this being the first (that I know of) lol.I predicted this sadly.
Pirate700
So because some white men are douche bags or violent that gives anyone who is not white the right to be douche bags or violent to random white people? That is another problem I have with liberals, they hate any white man because they read a history book and ignore that anyone can be a bad person or a criminal.[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]
That's not what I said. Btw, plenty of living white people are racists as well. What I implied is that whites already have been attacking blacks in this country to varying degrees. To be clear I'm not talking about all whites and all blacks. I'm not painting a broad brush.
But facts are facts.
sayyy-gaa
I never said that. DO NOT put words in my mouth.I didn't say "any white man". Matter of fact, I SPECIFICALLY didn't say that.
Where exactly are you going with this rant?[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"] Thx for the link dude. That accounting of events is much more balanced than the fox article, which is more on the sensational side. Still, I don't see hate crime here. I see fed up parents.
However, I could see more of a case for it if that anonymous woman reported this incident to the police and not news reporters. But i can see how the public would view it that way with more accounts of it. Seriously, how much can you hear if you are just passing by? And if she was driving by and saw a man getting his a$$ whooped by an angry mob, why didn't she call the cops? Sounds fishy.
-Sun_Tzu-
Two people heard "That's justice for Trayvon" and you still don't think at least one of those people had any racial motives?
It's an ongoing investigation. Arrests haven't even been made yet. As the mayor said, when the investigation concludes and they find there to be sufficient evidence to support a racial motive, they will pursue it. I'm glad and that's how it should be. I think it could be racially related, but way too early to say. We also don't know if the guy, who has had a bad past, said something stupid while trying to get the kids to move. I try and tell my students the same thing, wait for all the facts to come out.And in the post you quoted, I meant to say possibly....but left it out. So ya
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