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#1 -RocBoys9489-
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Give him 5! Let's put another party on the same playing field and end the 2 party monopoly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS7vCRlDC6A&feature=plcp

And remember! (the 1st comment)

Perot ran INDEPENDANT... like with no party... Thus even if he get alot of percentage that doesn't make the party continue since there is no party.

Gary Johnson is running for Libertarians. Which mean if he hit 5% next year the Libertarian candidate will get the same budget as Obama and Romney, full ballot access and be on the debate.

With all that it not hard to get 5% again, then 4 year later it repeat it self. The point is the libertarian are part of the election every year no matter what.

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Would be cool to see it happen.
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#3 hoola
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He'll hit about .5%

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#4 -RocBoys9489-
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Would be cool to see it happen.Zeviander
It can! That's only 1 in every 20 votes, and I've met about that number of voters who are fed up with the never-ending spending and will vote Gary
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#5 -RocBoys9489-
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He'll hit about .5%

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Who cares, vote for him! He needs every one he can get! Obama and Romney are the same guy, different skin color and campaign rhetoric.
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#6 -Sun_Tzu-
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lol

public financing is a joke

Obama and Romney both opted out of it because it was a waste of their time

two-party system is not going to be gotten rid of at the two-party's ballot box

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#8 famicommander
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I am voting for Johnson but to think that you can use the two party system to destroy the two party system is wishful thinking at its finest. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want any part of the Libertarians, Constitutionalists, or Greens in their debates. Also, no candidate that would accept public funding has any right to call himself a libertarian in the first place.
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#9 DroidPhysX
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How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there.
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#11 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there.

He can't because after Perot got so much of the vote back in 92', the Dems and Repubs created a monopoly committee that only their parties can be in the debates UNLESS another party(ies) gets 5% popular vote.
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#12 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there. KC_Hokie

He won the third party debate which had four candidates.

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No, how did he do in the debate vs. Obama and Romney. I only saw Obama and Romney in all three debates. Where was Johnson?
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That would be a great day, but hopefully with a party that isn't the Libertarian Party.
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there.

He can't because after Perot got so much of the vote back in 92', the Dems and Repubs created a monopoly committee that only their parties can be in the debates UNLESS another party(ies) gets 5% popular vote.

That's the point. Hokie is too busy creaming in his pants over the non existant prospects of a Gary Johnson presidency to notice.
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#15 Shinobi120
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I'm voting for Gary Johnson!KC_Hokie

Me too. Both Obama & Romney can kiss my ass.

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#16 kingkong0124
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I could potentially see myself voting Libertarian in the future. But, for the time being, I love the Republican Party and I'm going to be sticking with that.

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That's like a billion people, Dillon
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there.

He can't because after Perot got so much of the vote back in 92', the Dems and Repubs created a monopoly committee that only their parties can be in the debates UNLESS another party(ies) gets 5% popular vote.

That's the point. Hokie is too busy creaming in his pants over the non existant prospects of a Gary Johnson presidency to notice.

And the point of this thread is to state that if he get's 5 percent of the vote, he can participate in the debates in 2016. The Dems and Repubs are shaking in their boots right now and trying so hard for him to not get on the ballot, but I believe he's on 48 states!
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] He can't because after Perot got so much of the vote back in 92', the Dems and Repubs created a monopoly committee that only their parties can be in the debates UNLESS another party(ies) gets 5% popular vote.

That's the point. Hokie is too busy creaming in his pants over the non existant prospects of a Gary Johnson presidency to notice.

And the point of this thread is to state that if he get's 5 percent of the vote, he can participate in the debates in 2016. The Dems and Repubs are shaking in their boots right now and trying so hard for him to not get on the ballot, but I believe he's on 48 states!

He's on the ballot in 48 states plus DC and a write in in Michigan.
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#20 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]How did Gary Johnson do in the debate versus Obama & Romney? Hokie told me that he would be there. KC_Hokie

He won the third party debate which had four candidates.

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That debate was terrible though.
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#21 squitsquat
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it makes me sad that people think Gary johnson has a chance at getting anywhere near the presidency

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Though to be honest public financing seems like a rather unlibertarian goal to seek.

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Though to be honest public financing seems like a rather unlibertarian goal to seek.

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Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system. Democrats and Republicans did.
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it makes me sad that people think Gary johnson has a chance at getting anywhere near the presidency

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Its the hipsters version of US politics since Obama and Romney are too mainstream
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#25 sexyweapons
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I really hope he gets it and runs again.

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#26 KC_Hokie
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I really hope he gets it and runs again.

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He's only 59...he'll be running again.
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#27 bigfoot2045
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Who is Gary Johnson, and why would I throw my vote away on a candidate who has no chance of winning?

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On one hand I hope he gets it for the sh*t storm it will cause in 4 years but at the same time it's unfortunate that a more realistic party isn't in the same position.
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Who is Gary Johnson, and why would I throw my vote away on a candidate who has no chance of winning?

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Why would you throw your vote away on a candidate with a history of massive civil rights violations (Obama), or a candidate who has no problem with Obama's history of massive civil rights violations (Romney)? And a chance of winning? Only one person will win, and it isn't determined by chance. It's determined by the votes. The point of an election is voting for the person you think should hold a certain office, not voting for the person you think will win anyways.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Though to be honest public financing seems like a rather unlibertarian goal to seek.

KC_Hokie
Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system. Democrats and Republicans did.

So a libertarian seeks to use a system that he disagrees with?
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Though to be honest public financing seems like a rather unlibertarian goal to seek.

HoolaHoopMan
Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system. Democrats and Republicans did.

So a libertarian seeks to use a system that he disagrees with?

If the two parties create all sorts of barriers for third parties you have to take advantage of what you can wherever you can get it.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system. Democrats and Republicans did.KC_Hokie
So a libertarian seeks to use a system that he disagrees with?

If the two parties create all sorts of barriers for third parties you have to take advantage of what you can wherever you can get it.

Oh so he's a hypocrite. Nice to know.
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[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Who is Gary Johnson, and why would I throw my vote away on a candidate who has no chance of winning?

Laihendi

Why would you throw your vote away on a candidate with a history of massive civil rights violations (Obama), or a candidate who has no problem with Obama's history of massive civil rights violations (Romney)? And a chance of winning? Only one person will win, and it isn't determined by chance. It's determined by the votes. The point of an election is voting for the person you think should hold a certain office, not voting for the person you think will win anyways.

I live in the real world, where American elections are about picking the lesser of two evils, because only complete scumbags make it far enough in politics to run for president. Obama is currently the lesser of two evils. Romney seems intent on turning the US into some kind of Randian dystopia.

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#34 -Sun_Tzu-
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Hokie how will you feel if Gary Johnson spoils a Romney victory?
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#35 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Who is Gary Johnson, and why would I throw my vote away on a candidate who has no chance of winning?

bigfoot2045

Why would you throw your vote away on a candidate with a history of massive civil rights violations (Obama), or a candidate who has no problem with Obama's history of massive civil rights violations (Romney)? And a chance of winning? Only one person will win, and it isn't determined by chance. It's determined by the votes. The point of an election is voting for the person you think should hold a certain office, not voting for the person you think will win anyways.

I live in the real world, where American elections are about picking the lesser of two evils, because only complete scumbags make it far enough in politics to run for president. Obama is currently the lesser of two evils. Romney seems intent on turning the US into some kind of Randian dystopia.

Have you read anything by Rand? I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard other people say.
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[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Why would you throw your vote away on a candidate with a history of massive civil rights violations (Obama), or a candidate who has no problem with Obama's history of massive civil rights violations (Romney)? And a chance of winning? Only one person will win, and it isn't determined by chance. It's determined by the votes. The point of an election is voting for the person you think should hold a certain office, not voting for the person you think will win anyways.Laihendi

I live in the real world, where American elections are about picking the lesser of two evils, because only complete scumbags make it far enough in politics to run for president. Obama is currently the lesser of two evils. Romney seems intent on turning the US into some kind of Randian dystopia.

Have you read anything by Rand? I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard other people say.

Rand's literature is pretty poor.
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#37 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

I live in the real world, where American elections are about picking the lesser of two evils, because only complete scumbags make it far enough in politics to run for president. Obama is currently the lesser of two evils. Romney seems intent on turning the US into some kind of Randian dystopia.

HoolaHoopMan
Have you read anything by Rand? I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard other people say.

Rand's literature is pretty poor.

The quality of her writing isn't really relevant to what a Randian society would be.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]Have you read anything by Rand? I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard other people say.Laihendi
Rand's literature is pretty poor.

The quality of her writing isn't really relevant to what a Randian society would be.

You mean imaginary?

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Hokie how will you feel if Gary Johnson spoils a Romney victory? -Sun_Tzu-
I won't care; Obama, Bush, Romney, all interchangeable names.
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#40 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system. Democrats and Republicans did.KC_Hokie
So a libertarian seeks to use a system that he disagrees with?

If the two parties create all sorts of barriers for third parties you have to take advantage of what you can wherever you can get it.

Exactly, gotta work with the awful system you got.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] So a libertarian seeks to use a system that he disagrees with?

If the two parties create all sorts of barriers for third parties you have to take advantage of what you can wherever you can get it.

Oh so he's a hypocrite. Nice to know.

Libertarians didn't create the screwed up system.
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#42 KC_Hokie
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Hokie how will you feel if Gary Johnson spoils a Romney victory? -Sun_Tzu-
He won't...in states like Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire he actually helps Romney.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Hokie how will you feel if Gary Johnson spoils a Romney victory? KC_Hokie
He won't...in states like Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire he actually helps Romney.

So he's going to take more votes from Obama?
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]Have you read anything by Rand? I suspect you're just repeating things you've heard other people say.HoolaHoopMan

Rand's literature is pretty poor.

The quality of her writing isn't really relevant to what a Randian society would be.

You mean imaginary?

There's a difference between how things should be, and how things are.
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Silly hipsters, nobody cares.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Hokie how will you feel if Gary Johnson spoils a Romney victory? -Sun_Tzu-
He won't...in states like Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire he actually helps Romney.

So he's going to take more votes from Obama?

Yes. Especially in Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. Possibly other western states like Oregon.
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Even if he got 5%, whose to say he'll even sway voters during the next election ? His solutions aren't exactly going to appeal to everyone even if it is for "freedom and liberty".
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]The quality of her writing isn't really relevant to what a Randian society would be.Laihendi

You mean imaginary?

There's a difference between how things should be, and how things are.

So you cite more of her poor literature for me to read?
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#49 coolbeans90
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i.e., if we keep the nut cases from having 5% of the ballot, we don't even have to talk to them

AWESOME

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Be nice to have a legitimate third party.