All the religious people tell me one thing....

First of all I am not a complete non-believer,am a muslim and am trying to understand some things.And please stay on topic.

Ok there is a God,there is a true religion,you practise it but for what?Oh wait for paradise?You think it's all going to be so wonderful there?Let's see.

There can be no good without bad,no pleasure without sorrow so the basis of paradise fails there as it says all joy and no sorrow forever huh?

Now ok there's all joy?I absolutely love some of my friends and my life is literally incomplete without them so how am I supposed to be all happy if none of them go to paradise?Wouldnt the sweet memories I have with them make me sad?:?

This tells me that our previous memories will be wiped away in paradise?So what's the purpose then?I mean if I will forget what sacrifices I had made in the world to get to paradise than sorry it's not worth going to paradise IMO.I should remember that I sacrificed lust and what not to get to paradise and then enjoy the hell out of it.

I believe everybody would be of the same age in there so what the hell happens if you get to meet your mother or father of the same age as you?Can you imagine just how weird that is?:?

So will I not miss the parantal love of life?

I mean really paradise is the whole basis of everything.That is what derives us towards religion and yet no religion properly explains so many mysteries about it.

Let's assume there is no other mystery about religion,is there a solution or explanation for all of my questions?I mean there is no way I can be religious unless paradise seems worth it.

It's not that you get to be with your friends but you get to be with God, when you are with God nothing else matters. It's something that cannot be describes using human senses or examples here on earth. You will know who is there and who isn't and you will feel sorrow for those who didn't make it but the overwhelming power and joy of being with God will overcome all of that. ferrari2001

You seem awefully knowledgeable about something that "cannot be described using human senses or examples here on earth."

It's not that you get to be with your friends but you get to be with God, when you are with God nothing else matters. It's something that cannot be describes using human senses or examples here on earth. You will know who is there and who isn't and you will feel sorrow for those who didn't make it but the overwhelming power and joy of being with God will overcome all of that. ferrari2001

I thought paradise was all that is on earth and more.:(

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not that you get to be with your friends but you get to be with God, when you are with God nothing else matters. It's something that cannot be describes using human senses or examples here on earth. You will know who is there and who isn't and you will feel sorrow for those who didn't make it but the overwhelming power and joy of being with God will overcome all of that. Engrish_Major

You seem awefully knowledgeable about something that "cannot be described using human senses or examples here on earth."

My thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not that you get to be with your friends but you get to be with God, when you are with God nothing else matters. It's something that cannot be describes using human senses or examples here on earth. You will know who is there and who isn't and you will feel sorrow for those who didn't make it but the overwhelming power and joy of being with God will overcome all of that. Hitman_887

I thought paradise was all that is on earth and more.:(

they may or may not be there, if they are there you will still feel love there you will still love them, but you love God 1,000,000x times more. as you should. Old love for people isn't needed, you don't spend eternity like you would on earth it would be to long, its more an eternity praising God, which earthly senses doesn't sound plesent but then again you aren't on earth.

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

Brainkiller05

Okay, how does one "just believe"?

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

Brainkiller05

Pascal Wager is the worst reason to believe in a diety; Love does not enter the picture. And I hope people won't believe in something they think if false, because then it has no meaning.

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

Brainkiller05

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

fat_rob

yep it does!

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

ferrari2001

yep it does!

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

delol

yep it does!

Yea those do to congratualations.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

My name Is Bob and I'm a Christian.

I have a friend called James, he thinks Religion is a joke.

When we both die, we either both die and that is the end, or we both die and I go to Heaven for believing and he goes to Hell for not. Therefore I win and it's better to believe than not to... all you have to do is believe, you don't have to devote 80% of your life to doing stuff you don't want to, just believe.

delol

yep it does!

Yea those do to congratualations.

ferrari2001

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Yea those do to congratualations.

Engrish_Major

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

I don't know alot, I have no Idea how it's going to feel and how exactly it's going to be I just have a vauge understanding of what it will be like, and I'm talking VERY Vauge There is much more to heaven than what I am posting but I try my best to post what I know.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Yea those do to congratualations.

Engrish_Major

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Yea those do to congratualations.

ferrari2001

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

I don't know alot, I have no Idea how it's going to feel and how exactly it's going to be I just have a vauge understanding of what it will be like, and I'm talking VERY Vauge There is much more to heaven than what I am posting but I try my best to post what I know.

No, I meant about how we just believe. Sorry, should have specified.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Yea those do to congratualations.

Engrish_Major

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

I don't know alot, I have no Idea how it's going to feel and how exactly it's going to be I just have a vauge understanding of what it will be like, and I'm talking VERY Vauge There is much more to heaven than what I am posting but I try my best to post what I know.

No, I meant about how we just believe. Sorry, should have specified.

Oh I didn't post that?? You are looking for Brainkiller05

Oh I didn't post that?? You are looking for Brainkiller05

ferrari2001

You are correct.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Yea those do to congratualations.

ferrari2001

You still didn't answer my question to your suggestion.

I don't know alot, I have no Idea how it's going to feel and how exactly it's going to be I just have a vauge understanding of what it will be like, and I'm talking VERY Vauge There is much more to heaven than what I am posting but I try my best to post what I know.

No, I meant about how we just believe. Sorry, should have specified.

Oh I didn't post that?? You are looking for Brainkiller05

[QUOTE="omfg_its_dally"]You're Muslim, why are you complaining? You get a bunch of virgins.delol

[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="omfg_its_dally"]You're Muslim, why are you complaining? You get a bunch of virgins.Hitman_887

can't the mods make an ONLY Religion thread? There's a new religion thread made every half an hour or so on here.Forever_Changes