Alright the Wings Vs. Sharks playoff has been absolutely ridiculous....

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#1 LostProphetFLCL
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Anybody else noticed how incredibly AWFUL and flat out BIASED this reffing has been in their games in San Jose? I am watching my 2nd game of the playoff, and it is nice to see that the same crap is going on (the other game I watched was in San Jose and the Wings lost that one thanks to the reffing).

Seriously this is just incredibly unfair and I wonder what can be done about this. The Sharks guy can freaking shoulder-check our guy in the head with no penalty, but God forbid a Wings player attempts to steal the puck because BAM penalty.

I love how the refs called a DELAYED penalty earlier after letting the Shark player continue and make a shot on goal then oh, NOW lets give the guy a penalty shot.

I am just incredibly mad right now. It is one thing for my team to go and lose a game legitely, even if a couple calls are iffy, but to see the freaking playoff handed to the other team thanks to refs essentially playing for their home-team is just ridiculous.

Anyone else peeved about this?

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#2 -Fromage-
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I dont mind it one little bit. :)
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#3 hockey73
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My sister and I were complaining about the terrible reffing during the Avs series.
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#4 Dylan_11
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You think you have it bad? We are facing Crosby, poster boy of the NHL. Of course they want him in the final. We got the same **** in the Washington series cause they probably wanted another Ovechkin vs. Crosby match up.
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You think you have it bad? We are facing Crosby, poster boy of the NHL. Of course they want him in the final. We got the same **** in the Washington series cause they probably wanted another Ovechkin vs. Crosby match up.Dylan_11

Considering game 2 was flat out given to the Sharks through reffing yeah, I think we have it damn bad.

This game has been no better with them letting the Sharks get away with everything, granted I have only been watching since the 3rd period.

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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]You think you have it bad? We are facing Crosby, poster boy of the NHL. Of course they want him in the final. We got the same **** in the Washington series cause they probably wanted another Ovechkin vs. Crosby match up.LostProphetFLCL

Considering game 2 was flat out given to the Sharks through reffing yeah, I think we have it damn bad.

This game has been no better with them letting the Sharks get away with everything, granted I have only been watching since the 3rd period.

It is the same **** for us bro. It got so bad in game four that even the announcers were noticing :roll: but whatever, I never expected Montreal to make it this far anyways. Just sad when games come down to bad reffing.
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#7 -Fromage-
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Well it doesnt matter now, Good-bye Red Wings.
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#8 cheesyjon
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I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

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Good to see my Sharks win. Stanley Cup here we come :)

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#10 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]You think you have it bad? We are facing Crosby, poster boy of the NHL. Of course they want him in the final. We got the same **** in the Washington series cause they probably wanted another Ovechkin vs. Crosby match up.Dylan_11

Considering game 2 was flat out given to the Sharks through reffing yeah, I think we have it damn bad.

This game has been no better with them letting the Sharks get away with everything, granted I have only been watching since the 3rd period.

It is the same **** for us bro. It got so bad in game four that even the announcers were noticing :roll: but whatever, I never expected Montreal to make it this far anyways. Just sad when games come down to bad reffing.

Oh believe me the local announcers were going on and on about it.....

Anyways, so freaking lame that the Sharks just took the series. I mean seriously, game 2 had like 13 penalties called on the Wings with 3 or 4 called on the Sharks, 1 of which against the Sharks conveniently stopped a rush by the Wings...

Seriously, there needs to be some way to control this sort of thing. My God almost everything the refs in San Jose did benefitted the Sharks....

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#11 LostProphetFLCL
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I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

cheesyjon

This is beyond it being a hard job.

When one team is blatantly getting away with things left and right while the other can't even jostle for the puck without getting a penalty there is a serious problem.

It isn't even like the Sharks are bad either. They didn't need such a freaking ridiculous handicap. I really want to find the penalty stats for the San Jose games....

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#12 cheesyjon
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[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

LostProphetFLCL

This is beyond it being a hard job.

When one team is blatantly getting away with things left and right while the other can't even jostle for the puck without getting a penalty there is a serious problem.

It isn't even like the Sharks are bad either. They didn't need such a freaking ridiculous handicap. I really want to find the penalty stats for the San Jose games....

I think you're over reacting.

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Anybody else noticed how incredibly AWFUL and flat out BIASED this reffing has been in their games in San Jose? I am watching my 2nd game of the playoff, and it is nice to see that the same crap is going on (the other game I watched was in San Jose and the Wings lost that one thanks to the reffing).

Seriously this is just incredibly unfair and I wonder what can be done about this. The Sharks guy can freaking shoulder-check our guy in the head with no penalty, but God forbid a Wings player attempts to steal the puck because BAM penalty.

I love how the refs called a DELAYED penalty earlier after letting the Shark player continue and make a shot on goal then oh, NOW lets give the guy a penalty shot.

I am just incredibly mad right now. It is one thing for my team to go and lose a game legitely, even if a couple calls are iffy, but to see the freaking playoff handed to the other team thanks to refs essentially playing for their home-team is just ridiculous.

Anyone else peeved about this?

LostProphetFLCL

Now you know how I've felt as a Sharks fan across the past 7 or 8 years. We've never had the bounces. The calls have predominantly been against us, especially in three prior series(Dallas, Detroit, Colorado although none so far this post-season).

We've had legit goals called off, dozens of goaltender interference calls that should have been made but weren't...

I won't say the reffing hasn't been slanted in the Sharks' favor this year, but Detroit has had a golden horseshoe up their arses for the last 3 years, skating a fine line between penalty-worthy actions and not-worth-calling actions. This year they finally fell off that fence a bit and FINALLY got called. Some were phantom calls, but it finally evened out a bit. I think the reffing has been terrible on both sides this series, and terrible across this entire post-season, so I wouldn't say they gave it to the Sharks. They were just on the right side of the coin is all.

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#14 Dylan_11
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I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

cheesyjon
They are paid to make the calls. All of the calls. When they are shown on national television as being inept at their job, should we not be allowed to argue? This is bigger than rooting for your team at this point. When you worry more about the officiating of the game than your teams actual performance, this should be a clue that there is a problem.
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The officiating has been absolutely horrid the entire playoffs. There is no other way to put it. Sure, the refs have a hard job, but it has been some of the worst officiating I have ever seen. I am a Habs fan, I don't usually complain about the reffing, but in the 2 series for us, there have been 2 different sets of rules it seems. Just as there was in the Detroit-San Jose series. Just like there was in the Vancouver-LA series (that the Nucks were able to overcome). Just like there seems to be in the Vancouver - Chicago series.

It's just horrible, no other way to put it. They want to promote the sport in the U.S., but having horrible officiating isn't going to help matters, even if the poster boy of the NHL makes it to the final.

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Montreal Stanley Cup winner 2009-2010. You heard it here first!

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stop complaining. EVERY team has bad nights for refs, there was one game the hawks played before the post season where the puck was hit high into the air and keith was waiting for it to drop, before it even hit the ground someone cross-checked him in the back getting him out of the way took the puck and scored. the penalty went unnoticed. it happens just stop moaning and move on. and just root for the hawks to take their asses down in the next round
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The NHL has officially become Big Time Wrestling or maybe even Roller Derby. Is it any wonder the sport is in a free-fall as far as popularity. These playoff games, even as a fan of the sport, have been painful to watch because the officiating has been beyond reprehensible. Gary Bettman has to go. He has destroyed this sport.

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

cheesyjon

This is beyond it being a hard job.

When one team is blatantly getting away with things left and right while the other can't even jostle for the puck without getting a penalty there is a serious problem.

It isn't even like the Sharks are bad either. They didn't need such a freaking ridiculous handicap. I really want to find the penalty stats for the San Jose games....

I think you're over reacting.

Not at all.

In fact 2 of the games the Sharks have won were because of bad officiating.

The sportscast I was watching pointed out something interesting. While I had seen the hit they mentioned needed to be a penalty (Shark player just leveled our Wing player by shoulder checking him in the face long-after he had passed the puck) it never dawned on me that immediately after is when the Sharks scored the game-winning goal....

And I guess I should check out the other series to see how bad it is all-over. All I know is that for the first time I actually am rooting just for a team to lose, that team being the Sharks.

It is one thing to kick our asses (after all they are a SOLID team) but to have the series handed over on a platter by the refs is just crap.

BTW anyone seen any post-game interviews with the Wings players? I am surprised none of them have bit their tongue off trying to be good sports. You can tell at least some of them feel totally cheated.

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Course not because everyone hates your red wings
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K, the reffing in the first 4 games was bs, along with every other game these playoffs. Its a well known fact that refs generally suck, especially this time of year.. However game 5 reffing was surprisingly good. Anyone who disagrees with that is a wings fan who cant cope with loss.
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#22 LostProphetFLCL
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K, the reffing in the first 4 games was bs, along with every other game these playoffs. Its a well known fact that refs generally suck, especially this time of year.. However game 5 reffing was surprisingly good. Anyone who disagrees with that is a wings fan who cant cope with loss.lobodob

Except for them not calling that penalty on the Shark player who totally leveled our player way after he had gotten rid of the puck, which happened just before they got their game-winning goal....

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[QUOTE="lobodob"]K, the reffing in the first 4 games was bs, along with every other game these playoffs. Its a well known fact that refs generally suck, especially this time of year.. However game 5 reffing was surprisingly good. Anyone who disagrees with that is a wings fan who cant cope with loss.LostProphetFLCL

Except for them not calling that penalty on the Shark player who totally leveled our player way after he had gotten rid of the puck, which happened just before they got their game-winning goal....

Yea but a sharks player also got levelled a little later when he was no where near the puck and no call was made. The none calls went both ways. Just accept it. Thats what I had to do when my sens lost, and i could easily have blamed the refs for that one.
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[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

This is beyond it being a hard job.

When one team is blatantly getting away with things left and right while the other can't even jostle for the puck without getting a penalty there is a serious problem.

It isn't even like the Sharks are bad either. They didn't need such a freaking ridiculous handicap. I really want to find the penalty stats for the San Jose games....

LostProphetFLCL

I think you're over reacting.

Not at all.

In fact 2 of the games the Sharks have won were because of bad officiating.

The sportscast I was watching pointed out something interesting. While I had seen the hit they mentioned needed to be a penalty (Shark player just leveled our Wing player by shoulder checking him in the face long-after he had passed the puck) it never dawned on me that immediately after is when the Sharks scored the game-winning goal....

And I guess I should check out the other series to see how bad it is all-over. All I know is that for the first time I actually am rooting just for a team to lose, that team being the Sharks.

It is one thing to kick our asses (after all they are a SOLID team) but to have the series handed over on a platter by the refs is just crap.

BTW anyone seen any post-game interviews with the Wings players? I am surprised none of them have bit their tongue off trying to be good sports. You can tell at least some of them feel totally cheated.

It was a penalty that probably should have been called, I agree with you on that. Bad reffing causes situations like this. I remember earlier in the decade, the Sharks had a game tied up on them after a player left the penalty box, was sent a double line pass(when it was a called offense) and that player scored on the breakaway. Refs miss calls all the time. You just have to hope it evens out in the end. You're a Detroit fan, you might not understand it because it's fresh in your mind and you saw 'biased' reffing. I just saw inconsistent reffing, and when reffing is inconsistent, they're not being biased, it's just that one team will wind up catching the breaks because of it, usually. It's kind of silly to cheer against the Sharks when they weren't the ones that did anything wrong here. I mean, you might think that refs gave the Sharks two games. Whatever. San Jose scored all 6 GWG last series against Colorado and not too many were complaining that Colorado wasn't deserving of their wins. Bounces and reffing...they don't care about the skill and teamwork involved. It's all on whatever randomness that's going on at the time.
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K, the reffing in the first 4 games was bs, along with every other game these playoffs. Its a well known fact that refs generally suck, especially this time of year.. However game 5 reffing was surprisingly good. Anyone who disagrees with that is a wings fan who cant cope with loss.lobodob
Yeah, surprisingly this game was fairly balanced. A few non-calls on each end, mostly in the third, but it was even in terms of offenses that were deserving of penalties.
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NBA Calls are even worse. They don't even review them.
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#27 Lockedge
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NBA Calls are even worse. They don't even review them. gurulag10
Yeah.....I don't let my brother watch the NBA playoffs anymore, ever since he wrecked a bunch of stuff after a particularly controversial string of calls/non-calls last year
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#28 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

I think you're over reacting.

Lockedge

Not at all.

In fact 2 of the games the Sharks have won were because of bad officiating.

The sportscast I was watching pointed out something interesting. While I had seen the hit they mentioned needed to be a penalty (Shark player just leveled our Wing player by shoulder checking him in the face long-after he had passed the puck) it never dawned on me that immediately after is when the Sharks scored the game-winning goal....

And I guess I should check out the other series to see how bad it is all-over. All I know is that for the first time I actually am rooting just for a team to lose, that team being the Sharks.

It is one thing to kick our asses (after all they are a SOLID team) but to have the series handed over on a platter by the refs is just crap.

BTW anyone seen any post-game interviews with the Wings players? I am surprised none of them have bit their tongue off trying to be good sports. You can tell at least some of them feel totally cheated.

It was a penalty that probably should have been called, I agree with you on that. Bad reffing causes situations like this. I remember earlier in the decade, the Sharks had a game tied up on them after a player left the penalty box, was sent a double line pass(when it was a called offense) and that player scored on the breakaway. Refs miss calls all the time. You just have to hope it evens out in the end. You're a Detroit fan, you might not understand it because it's fresh in your mind and you saw 'biased' reffing. I just saw inconsistent reffing, and when reffing is inconsistent, they're not being biased, it's just that one team will wind up catching the breaks because of it, usually. It's kind of silly to cheer against the Sharks when they weren't the ones that did anything wrong here. I mean, you might think that refs gave the Sharks two games. Whatever. San Jose scored all 6 GWG last series against Colorado and not too many were complaining that Colorado wasn't deserving of their wins. Bounces and reffing...they don't care about the skill and teamwork involved. It's all on whatever randomness that's going on at the time.

Game 2 wasn't even inconsitency, it was flat out refs trying to give the home team the game.

The wings ended up with almost 4 times as many penalties with Shark players getting away with crap. I swear on at least a couple ocassions I saw Shark players taking dives and such....

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NBA Calls are even worse. They don't even review them. gurulag10
This. You want bad officiating watch the NBA playoffs. Hell, one of their ref's got busted for influencing the scores of games to make sure he won his bet's that he made. Now that's bad.
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#30 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="gurulag10"]NBA Calls are even worse. They don't even review them. Fuzzy_Bear123
This. You want bad officiating watch the NBA playoffs. Hell, one of their ref's got busted for influencing the scores of games to make sure he won his bet's that he made. Now that's bad.

Damn that is bad...

Glad I don't care to watch basketball then:P

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#31 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Not at all.

In fact 2 of the games the Sharks have won were because of bad officiating.

The sportscast I was watching pointed out something interesting. While I had seen the hit they mentioned needed to be a penalty (Shark player just leveled our Wing player by shoulder checking him in the face long-after he had passed the puck) it never dawned on me that immediately after is when the Sharks scored the game-winning goal....

And I guess I should check out the other series to see how bad it is all-over. All I know is that for the first time I actually am rooting just for a team to lose, that team being the Sharks.

It is one thing to kick our asses (after all they are a SOLID team) but to have the series handed over on a platter by the refs is just crap.

BTW anyone seen any post-game interviews with the Wings players? I am surprised none of them have bit their tongue off trying to be good sports. You can tell at least some of them feel totally cheated.

LostProphetFLCL

It was a penalty that probably should have been called, I agree with you on that. Bad reffing causes situations like this. I remember earlier in the decade, the Sharks had a game tied up on them after a player left the penalty box, was sent a double line pass(when it was a called offense) and that player scored on the breakaway. Refs miss calls all the time. You just have to hope it evens out in the end. You're a Detroit fan, you might not understand it because it's fresh in your mind and you saw 'biased' reffing. I just saw inconsistent reffing, and when reffing is inconsistent, they're not being biased, it's just that one team will wind up catching the breaks because of it, usually. It's kind of silly to cheer against the Sharks when they weren't the ones that did anything wrong here. I mean, you might think that refs gave the Sharks two games. Whatever. San Jose scored all 6 GWG last series against Colorado and not too many were complaining that Colorado wasn't deserving of their wins. Bounces and reffing...they don't care about the skill and teamwork involved. It's all on whatever randomness that's going on at the time.

Game 2 wasn't even inconsitency, it was flat out refs trying to give the home team the game.

The wings ended up with almost 4 times as many penalties with Shark players getting away with crap. I swear on at least a couple ocassions I saw Shark players taking dives and such....

Sounds like the last time the Sharks met up with Detroit in a series, with Osgood and Draper flopping on the ice drawing penalties that weren't penalties. Also, refs go around the country, there's no home team bias. They aren't from San Jose. Game 2 was reffed bad. I counted, if I recall, 6 uncalled penalties on San Jose and 4 uncalled penalties on Detroit, along with 2 bad calls on Detroit and 1 on San Jose. 8-5 total missed/messed up penalties that wound up in favor of San Jose. Not all that lopsided, but that's from my viewpoint, and what I recall.
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] It was a penalty that probably should have been called, I agree with you on that. Bad reffing causes situations like this. I remember earlier in the decade, the Sharks had a game tied up on them after a player left the penalty box, was sent a double line pass(when it was a called offense) and that player scored on the breakaway. Refs miss calls all the time. You just have to hope it evens out in the end. You're a Detroit fan, you might not understand it because it's fresh in your mind and you saw 'biased' reffing. I just saw inconsistent reffing, and when reffing is inconsistent, they're not being biased, it's just that one team will wind up catching the breaks because of it, usually. It's kind of silly to cheer against the Sharks when they weren't the ones that did anything wrong here. I mean, you might think that refs gave the Sharks two games. Whatever. San Jose scored all 6 GWG last series against Colorado and not too many were complaining that Colorado wasn't deserving of their wins. Bounces and reffing...they don't care about the skill and teamwork involved. It's all on whatever randomness that's going on at the time.Lockedge

Game 2 wasn't even inconsitency, it was flat out refs trying to give the home team the game.

The wings ended up with almost 4 times as many penalties with Shark players getting away with crap. I swear on at least a couple ocassions I saw Shark players taking dives and such....

Sounds like the last time the Sharks met up with Detroit in a series, with Osgood and Draper flopping on the ice drawing penalties that weren't penalties. Also, refs go around the country, there's no home team bias. They aren't from San Jose. Game 2 was reffed bad. I counted, if I recall, 6 uncalled penalties on San Jose and 4 uncalled penalties on Detroit, along with 2 bad calls on Detroit and 1 on San Jose. 8-5 total missed/messed up penalties that wound up in favor of San Jose. Not all that lopsided, but that's from my viewpoint, and what I recall.

Good to know the refs travel. They still need to learn how to actually do their job though.

And that is still lopsided enough, considering San Jose got the game-winner while on a BS 5 vs. 3 power-play...

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#33 Bloodaxe726
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I'd make fun of you for your rage because of reffing that I didn't think was that bad, but I just watched the refs give away the game in the NBA to the Lakers, so I have no room to talk.

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#34 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Game 2 wasn't even inconsitency, it was flat out refs trying to give the home team the game.

The wings ended up with almost 4 times as many penalties with Shark players getting away with crap. I swear on at least a couple ocassions I saw Shark players taking dives and such....

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Sounds like the last time the Sharks met up with Detroit in a series, with Osgood and Draper flopping on the ice drawing penalties that weren't penalties. Also, refs go around the country, there's no home team bias. They aren't from San Jose. Game 2 was reffed bad. I counted, if I recall, 6 uncalled penalties on San Jose and 4 uncalled penalties on Detroit, along with 2 bad calls on Detroit and 1 on San Jose. 8-5 total missed/messed up penalties that wound up in favor of San Jose. Not all that lopsided, but that's from my viewpoint, and what I recall.

Good to know the refs travel. They still need to learn how to actually do their job though.

And that is still lopsided enough, considering San Jose got the game-winner while on a BS 5 vs. 3 power-play...

Oh, for sure the fact that refs messed up on 13(by my tally) bad penalties and non-calls, it's absolutely unforgivable. However, BS or not, those powerplays do happen. If the Wings had played the PK like they're capable of, they could have prevented the goal. It is a bit of a rut to work your way out of, but it's absolutely possible.
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#35 Lockedge
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I'd make fun of you for your rage because of reffing that I didn't think was that bad, but I just watched the refs give away the game in the NBA to the Lakers, so I have no room to talk.

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Someone should bribe the NBA refs to orchestrate an LA Clippers NBA playoff berth because the Lakers get so many breaks it's unreal. Of course, they have the talent to back it up too, but whatever :P Clippers fans(if there are any, those poor saps) need something to cheer about
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#36 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

I'd make fun of you for your rage because of reffing that I didn't think was that bad, but I just watched the refs give away the game in the NBA to the Lakers, so I have no room to talk.

Lockedge

Someone should bribe the NBA refs to orchestrate an LA Clippers NBA playoff berth because the Lakers get so many breaks it's unreal. Of course, they have the talent to back it up too, but whatever :P Clippers fans(if there are any, those poor saps) need something to cheer about

I don't think there are many LA sports fans period, I think the only reason they have crowds at their games are because of all the people making public appearances.

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I hate it when people argue about not getting penalties and getting penalties. Reffing is a hard job.

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It is a difficult job, but they're supposed to be professionals. It's one thing to make a couple bad calls, it's another to completely **** everything up throughout a game/series just because there's someone on the other team the refs wanna blow (sidney and ovechkin more than anyone)
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Totally agree. The Wings lost because of bad reffing. Franzen got illegally shoulder checked in the neck, then they let the sharks continue down to the goal until Howard stopped the puck. Had the face off been on the Sharks' end like it should have been, instead of down on the wings, I guarantee that goal wouldn't have been scored.

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You don't lose four games due to refs. If it was a really close 3-3 series and it was close and biased calls were made, then sure, but you don't lose a whole series due to refs.
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You don't lose four games due to refs. If it was a really close 3-3 series and it was close and biased calls were made, then sure, but you don't lose a whole series due to refs.blackngold29

Like I have said I can directly attribute 2 of the Sharks wins to reffing which is a big deal...

This series would most likely be continuing if it weren't for the refs...

It should have been a close series, but the reffing threw 2 of the games to the Sharks. The Wings had to fight against sooo many powerplays in game 2 and that game winning goal slipped by durig a 5 vs. 3 powerplay the Sharks SHOULD NOT have had. One of the Wings penalties then was simply our player attempting to hack out the puck (and it was very obvious that he was going after the puck and not the Shark players stick) but the Shark player just goes "oops" and almost tossed his stick getting a penalty called which was just crap.

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Sharks win! Sharks win! Sharks win! That Cup is close now. Now on to get rid of the Hawks.

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[QUOTE="blackngold29"]You don't lose four games due to refs. If it was a really close 3-3 series and it was close and biased calls were made, then sure, but you don't lose a whole series due to refs.LostProphetFLCL

Like I have said I can directly attribute 2 of the Sharks wins to reffing which is a big deal...

This series would most likely be continuing if it weren't for the refs...

It should have been a close series, but the reffing threw 2 of the games to the Sharks. The Wings had to fight against sooo many powerplays in game 2 and that game winning goal slipped by durig a 5 vs. 3 powerplay the Sharks SHOULD NOT have had. One of the Wings penalties then was simply our player attempting to hack out the puck (and it was very obvious that he was going after the puck and not the Shark players stick) but the Shark player just goes "oops" and almost tossed his stick getting a penalty called which was just crap.

During Game 2, the Wings couldn't win a faceoff to save their lives, including when they were killing penalties. While the officiating was bad, the Wings didn't play especially well.