Am I an Atheist?

This is not another religion thread (sort of) :D But anyways, heres the deal. I don't go to church, or read the bible, and I believe in evolution and not creationism. BUT, I don't flat out say "God isn't real", even though I haven't been given solid evidence he exists, I still kind of believe there is a God and a place we go to when we die (Heaven). Use the poll, but also explain.

You say you believe there is a God, therefore you are not an atheist...chessmaster1989

This is not another religion thread (sort of) :D But anyways, heres the deal. I don't go to church, or read the bible, and I believe in evolution and not creationism. BUT, I don't flat out say "God isn't real", even though I haven't been given solid evidence he exists, I still kind of believe there is a God and a place we go to when we die (Heaven). Use the poll, but also explain. I_pWnzz_YoU

You kind of sound like a deist. They believe that God exists and created the universe, but stopped there. There is no 'holy trinity' or 'prayer,' or 'spirit of Jesus,' just the rest of the universe, and for some people, heaven.

You should be proud. Many famous people were deists (Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc.)

I myself am an agnostic (which means I'm a bit more skeptical of God's existence than you), but I don't flat-out reject it. I like to keep an open mind.

Super_mario_128 and pirate700 are right. the definition of you would be Agnostic. You believe in something,but you do not define it or have decided that it is anything specific.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]You say you believe there is a God, therefore you are not an atheist...I_pWnzz_YoU

They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

EDIT: Apologies-what I described was agnostic atheism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist

This ought to help.

First time I'm posting in a religious thread. I suck.

I'm a "christian" but I believe more in santa then in god. Seen so much stuff that proves there is no god, can't even believe in god if I wanted to. Not saying I'm experianced in life or anything. Why would our god be the right one? Egyptians or Africans didin't know anything about our god way back. Then suddenly someone decided to make this shait up and force people to believe in it. Religions are just not needed anymore. I hope they'll die out...

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]You say you believe there is a God, therefore you are not an atheist...chessmaster1989

They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

You should be proud. Many famous people were deists (Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc.)

Hot-Tamale

Lincoln was a Christian (most likely Baptist).

In any case, a lot of famous people are Scientologists. It's not a good idea to base the validity/"awesomeness" of your beliefs on who else believed it.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]This is not another religion thread (sort of) :D But anyways, heres the deal. I don't go to church, or read the bible, and I believe in evolution and not creationism. BUT, I don't flat out say "God isn't real", even though I haven't been given solid evidence he exists, I still kind of believe there is a God and a place we go to when we die (Heaven). Use the poll, but also explain. super_mario_128

an agnostic ... is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

chessmaster1989

No, that isn't true. A pure agnostic is someone who simply believes that it is impossible to attain any level of certain knowledge with respect to whether or not God exists. You can have both agnostic atheists and agnostic theists; the only criteria for agnosticism is the maintenance of the position that certain knowledge with respect to God's existence is impossible.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]You say you believe there is a God, therefore you are not an atheist...I_pWnzz_YoU

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"] Yeah, but I choose not to devote my life to said God.mattykovax

They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

No, what I described was an agnostic atheist. Apparently, upon further research, I discovered that agnostics can be either atheists or theists. From my experience, though, they tend to be atheists.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

an agnostic ... is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

GabuEx

No, that isn't true. A pure agnostic is someone who simply believes that it is impossible to attain any level of certain knowledge with respect to whether or not God exists. You can have both agnostic atheists and agnostic theists; the only criteria for agnosticism is the maintenance of the position that certain knowledge with respect to God's existence is impossible.

I'd edited my post just before you posted that :P.

Thanks, though :).

You kind of sound like a deist. They believe that God exists and created the universe, but stopped there. There is no 'holy trinity' or 'prayer,' or 'spirit of Jesus,' just the rest of the universe, and for some people, heaven.

You should be proud. Many famous people were deists (Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc.)

I myself am an agnostic (which means I'm a bit more skeptical of God's existence than you), but I don't flat-out reject it. I like to keep an open mind.

Hot-Tamale

You kind of sound like a deist. They believe that God exists and created the universe, but stopped there. There is no 'holy trinity' or 'prayer,' or 'spirit of Jesus,'Hot-Tamale

[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

chessmaster1989

No, what I described was an agnostic atheist. Apparently, upon further research, I discovered that agnostics can be either atheists or theists. From my experience, though, they tend to be atheists.

This is not another religion thread (sort of) :D But anyways, heres the deal. I don't go to church, or read the bible, and I believe in evolution and not creationism. BUT, I don't flat out say "God isn't real", even though I haven't been given solid evidence he exists, I still kind of believe there is a God and a place we go to when we die (Heaven). Use the poll, but also explain.

I_pWnzz_YoU

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

You kind of sound like a deist. They believe that God exists and created the universe, but stopped there. There is no 'holy trinity' or 'prayer,' or 'spirit of Jesus,' just the rest of the universe, and for some people, heaven.

You should be proud. Many famous people were deists (Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc.)

I myself am an agnostic (which means I'm a bit more skeptical of God's existence than you), but I don't flat-out reject it. I like to keep an open mind.

I_pWnzz_YoU

I know. But what created the elements for life in the first place? As an agnostic, I don't think it was any sort of 'god,' but many people (including deists) think that a god created the universe and let nature take its course.

youre certainly not an atheist. anyway, try this quiz. its not 100% accurate, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what you might identify yourself as. personally, i dont put much weight into groupings. the important thing is what you believe, not what other people might categorize it as. but if that is what you want then the quiz might help.LoG-Sacrament

They put me as a Liberal Protestant.

The description is bullcrap.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]You say you believe there is a God, therefore you are not an atheist...Famiking

Deism has nothing to do with how you worship God, but how God interacts with the universe. You could believe God is the homeless guy down the street and not worship him, but that doesn't make you a deist.

youre certainly not an atheist. anyway, try this quiz. its not 100% accurate, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what you might identify yourself as. personally, i dont put much weight into groupings. the important thing is what you believe, not what other people might categorize it as. but if that is what you want then the quiz might help.LoG-Sacrament

I am the exact same way. I was brought up as a Catholic.. I was baptised and had first communion, but I don't go to church or read the bible at all anymore.The_Sand_Man

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]youre certainly not an atheist. anyway, try this quiz. its not 100% accurate, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what you might identify yourself as. personally, i dont put much weight into groupings. the important thing is what you believe, not what other people might categorize it as. but if that is what you want then the quiz might help.Zackariel

They put me as a Liberal Protestant.

The description is bullcrap.

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]youre certainly not an atheist. anyway, try this quiz. its not 100% accurate, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what you might identify yourself as. personally, i dont put much weight into groupings. the important thing is what you believe, not what other people might categorize it as. but if that is what you want then the quiz might help.Zackariel

They put me as a Liberal Protestant.

The description is bullcrap.

[QUOTE="Zackariel"]

The description is bullcrap.

LoG-Sacrament

I don't. That's why I took the test in the first place.

They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.chessmaster1989

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

chessmaster1989

----------------Believes in God-- Doesn't believe in God -Believes that there is no God

I know: -------gnostic theist ----gnostic weak atheist ----gnostic strong atheist

I don't know: -agnostic theist ---agnostic weak atheist ---agnostic strong atheist

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.domatron23

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

chessmaster1989

----------------Believes in God-- Doesn't believe in God -Believes that there is no God

I know: -------gnostic theist ----gnostic weak atheist ----gnostic strong atheist

I don't know: -agnostic theist ---agnostic weak atheist ---agnostic strong atheist

A gnostic weak atheist is redundant. "I know I don't believe in God" is the same thing as "I don't believe in God." All weak atheists are agnostic.

The description is bullcrap.

I don't. That's why I took the test in the first place.

[QUOTE="Zackariel"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"] maybe you dont know yourself :shock:LoG-Sacrament

I don't. That's why I took the test in the first place.

I said I don't know what I am. I know well enough what I'm not to criticise specific results to a test.

I don't. That's why I took the test in the first place.

I said I don't know what I am. I know well enough what I'm not to criticise specific results to a test.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]They key component to atheism is thinking that God does not exist.domatron23

Also, despite the comments of one or two others, you are not an agnostic, which is someone who personally believes that God does not exist, but recognizes the potential for God to exist (whereas an atheist thinks that God cannot exist), but thinks it impossible to prove or disprove God's existence.

chessmaster1989

----------------Believes in God-- Doesn't believe in God -Believes that there is no God

I know: -------gnostic theist ----gnostic weak atheist ----gnostic strong atheist

I don't know: -agnostic theist ---agnostic weak atheist ---agnostic strong atheist

I don't think that you can really have a "gnostic weak atheist". Weak atheism is simply the stance that the current evidence in favor of God is unconvincing; there's nothing that you can really feel either certain or uncertain about.

to know what youre not is to know something about yourself.LoG-Sacrament

I know I'm not black.

Therefore I am white?

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"] to know what youre not is to know something about yourself.Zackariel

I know I'm not black.

Therefore I am white?