America isn't fighting wars right

Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later.

I'm pretty sure we did launch a full scale invasion of Iraq. Yeah. . . Pretty sure that happened.

But america DID launch a large scale invasion of iraq. And the war ended pretty quickly. It's the occupation that is keeping them there.

There's a certain set of rules that we're not following in regards to our warcraft apparently...

"Look at what Israel does. If they find a terrorist sniper in an enemy building, they just level the entire building. If there were civilians inside, then they should have gotten the **** out when he started shooting." (not a quote by me)

We crushed Iraq's military in a couple months in 2003. Then we got involved in a nation-building and policing project.

They aren't full scale wars. They are just conflicts. Mostly civil interventions. The problem is politics. The problem is the fact that the common man wants war to be nice & clean, but it's not. War is brutal & dirty. People want to be weak and fight. You can't be weak and fight, it doesn't work. Cameras don't belong there because people are gonna do things you won't approve of. People always like to say this or that is wrong don't do this or that but they don't have any realistic suggestions. As if everything will just go away.

The mission is not invasion. It's more of an occupation to facilitatesearch & seizure.

Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later.

DarkestDestiny

that is because the US hasnt had a 100% legitimate cause to fight a war since WWII. Its either been to stop communism (bullcrap), for money (bullcrap), and worse (more bullcrap).

You really cant compare it to WWII...that was the last "just" war (and I use that term loosely, there is no just war)

With that said, I find your disregard for innocent life (the victims of collateral damage) and your apathy towards humanity in general frightening, to say the least.

*jesus, ive gone from patriotic to hippy in 10 posts

We crushed Iraq's military in a couple months in 2003. Then we got involved in a nation-building and policing project.

Palantas

Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. The war ended in 2003 and it's kind of hard to win over a country when you're out slaughtering everyone with no regard. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. We did and the war ended in 2 weeks if I recall; the occuaption and nation building has not. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later. Where do you get your info?

DarkestDestiny

I'm surpised this wasn't just a NUKE EM post

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We crushed Iraq's military in a couple months in 2003. Then we got involved in a nation-building and policing project.

weezyfb

Yes. My statement was in response to this comment by the thread creator:

Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly.

DarkestDestiny

I said it before and I'll say it again, if America really gave a damn about stopping the terrorists, then they would have gone to Saudi Arabia by now where most terrorists come from. OH but wait America is friends with them because of all the money they make from oil. So ye since WW2 there haven't been a single war to actually stop terrorism. And Iraq please....first you support them now you're against them, please im tired of hearing how people think the troops are protecting our country from Iraq and Afghanistan. People are so brainwashed with BS. You're not supporting the troops, all you're doing is supporting the freaking government.

If america is ever gonna fight a war right it'll be when they get the Marines to hit the beaches of China while the Navy bombards the mainland and goes up the yellow river, and the Army floods through North Korea and the Airforce bombs every major city and base across the country.

That is when America will fight a war right.

"Look at what Israel does. If they find a terrorist sniper in an enemy building, they just level the entire building. If there were civilians inside, then they should have gotten the **** out when he started shooting." (not a quote by me)

DarkestDestiny

Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later.

DarkestDestiny

Sure, the US could kick *** if they were to essentially ignore collateral damage, but that isn't usually the right way to fight a war (if there is a right way to fight a war). The difference between WW2 and the other wars is that the US is fighting to try to improve the lives of people in the countries they are defending or attacking and defend the american way of life instead of just trying to defeat a nation that is completely set on trying to destroy the US and the world (at least that is what I believe, a lot of people here have a much more pessimistic view of why we have been in these wars).

Sure the US could win any of these wars militarily, but it would defeat the purpose of why the war was fought.

"Look at what Israel does. If they find a terrorist sniper in an enemy building, they just level the entire building. If there were civilians inside, then they should have gotten the **** out when he started shooting." (not a quote by me)

DarkestDestiny

Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later.

DarkestDestiny

There's no money in instant victories.

Yes, I'm suggesting that america fights prolonged and extended wars in order to increase profits earned in certain fields of the private sector.

The carlyle group would like to extend its most heartfelt thank-yous to the american people for allowing them, their lobbyists and their coorperate affiliates to sucker the american voters and their joke of a government rule.

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Pretty much every war since World War II has been fought incorrectly. America is just fighting lightweight wars, which is terrible. This is the reason we see wars last a long time (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). If we actually invaded our enemies, things would be different. Right now we worry more about collateral damage than we do about winning the war. It's supposed to be a war, bad things happen from time to time, we have to roll with the punches. Had we launched a full scale invasion of Iraq, I guarantee you the war would be have been over almost instantly. Same goes for all of the other wars America has fought in since World War II. Politicians are making military decisions, and that is why we are stuck in unnecessarily long and bloody wars that last 5+ years. It's gotten so ridiculous now, if a soldier is being shot at by a terrorist, but the terrorist sets his gun down and just walks away (but doesn't surrender), you aren't supposed to kill him anymore, despite the fact that he was trying to kill you a second ago, and will most likely try to kill you or another American later.

mrbojangles25

that is because the US hasnt had a 100% legitimate cause to fight a war since WWII. Its either been to stop communism (bullcrap), for money (bullcrap), and worse (more bullcrap).

You really cant compare it to WWII...that was the last "just" war (and I use that term loosely, there is no just war)

With that said, I find your disregard for innocent life (the victims of collateral damage) and your apathy towards humanity in general frightening, to say the least.

*jesus, ive gone from patriotic to hippy in 10 posts