America sends people to prison for just about everything

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#1 SpikeJones767
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America sends people to prison for just about everything, I thought this was supposed to be the land of the free but we have in America more people in prison than the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height. http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2012/01/30/120130crat_atlarge_gopnik I wanted a serious discussion on this topic after reading this news article about a young honor student who was jailed because she missed too many days of school... http://www.khou.com/news/Jailed-Honor-Students-Story-Goes-International-155167295.html We as Americans should be out raged that we basically live in a police state, young people should unite to throw these people out of office
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#2 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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Well if you ain't tough on crime you ain't getting elected. Also the drug war does not help very much.
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To be fair, that happened in Texas.
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#4 l4dak47
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I agree. Land of the free, my ass. The drug war is a huge reason.
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Even Pat Robertson thinks the "War on Drugs" should end and embraced the idea of legalizing marijuana, arguing that it is a way to bring down soaring rates of incarceration and reduce the social and financial costs... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/us/pat-robertson-backs-legalizing-marijuana.html These Judges that send people to prison so easily should have to spend a month there themselves just to get a taste of what they so easily condemn others too...
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[QUOTE="SpikeJones767"]Even Pat Robertson thinks the "War on Drugs" should end and embraced the idea of legalizing marijuana, arguing that it is a way to bring down soaring rates of incarceration and reduce the social and financial costs... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/us/pat-robertson-backs-legalizing-marijuana.html These Judges that send people to prison so easily should have to spend a month there themselves just to get a taste of what they so easily condemn others too...

Dem politicians are fvcking dumb. I think the last 3 or 4 presidents admitted to using drugs. Obama especially was a big fan of weed. But now, he's cracking down extra hard....
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mmm New Yorker <3 so good.

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Reminds me of Mr Fry on QI

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#9 SpikeJones767
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I just find it so disturbing that America has more citizens in prison than any other country on the face of the earth... This country was once called the land of the free. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate Why does it seem people only vote for the pin-head politicians that advocate locking people up?
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#10 SouL-Tak3R
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The Land of the free turned into the Country of control. It will only get worse as the years go on.

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[QUOTE="SpikeJones767"] I just find it so disturbing that America has more citizens in prison than any other country on the face of the earth... This country was once called the land of the free. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate Why does it seem people only vote for the pin-head politicians that advocate locking people up?

The party advocating liberty and small government is the same one that traditionally advocates tough on crime stances such as prison time for drug use.
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#12 SpikeJones767
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The Land of the free turned into the Country of control. It will only get worse as the years go on.

SouL-Tak3R
I believe your absolutely right, we should organize a political platform and get out to vote against these prison loving, liberty taking police state war mongers...
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Just don't get caught.

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The philosophy has always been more about punishment rather than rehabilitation or prevention.

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#15 SpikeJones767
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The party advocating liberty and small government is the same one that traditionally advocates tough on crime stances such as prison time for drug use.mattbbpl
Yeah, they always talk about having smaller government but every year Law Enforcement agencies get larger and larger... In the city I live in they've closed two post offices but hired 20 new deputies and purchased a fleet of brand new police cars and equipped officers with wearable video cameras... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Zay27xFlM
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#16 CHOASXIII
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The Patriots are trying to control all of us.

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#17 SpikeJones767
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The philosophy has always been more about punishment rather than rehabilitation or prevention.

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That needs to change, we as a society have advanced far enough to do more in the areas you mention prevention and of course rehabilitation than to simply lock people away in prison which of course is the easy way out. Another issue are these Judges that throw people in prison with no compassion and a complete lack of wisdom... There was no justice for Diane Tran and Judge Lanny Moriarty should be removed from being a Judge. http://www.khou.com/news/Jail-offers-no-comment-in-case-of-honor-student-jailed-after-missing-school--155508335.html
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#18 RushKing
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Private prisons need to make their $$$. Libertarians and Conservitives have no idea of all the corruption privitization of banks and prisons cause.
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#19 jetpower3
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"America sends people to prison for just about everything"

I am sorry, but this does not compute. Right or wrong, the major categories of offences seems to be pretty narrow (drugs and violence), with most growth in the prison population coming from the war on drugs in recent years. The reason why the truancy ruling made headlines at all was because it was so unusual.

"We have in America more people in prison than the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height."

More people, maybe, but less per capita (about 800 per 100,000 in Stalin's Soviet Union at its peak). Also, it's a bit misleading to say "correctional supervision" to imply "prison", because more than 2/3 of those are not actually in prison itself, but rather on parole or probation. Many of them probably were previously in prison for extended periods and have a good chance of ending back up there. They are not completely free. But it is still not prison itself.

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Blah Blah Blah who gives a fvck. School must be out.
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#21 Captain52
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Exaggeration alert, I do agree some Locations/States in America appear to be more corrupted than others, but America as a whole I don't think is that bad and is doing fairly well, could be better, could be worse. I also agree that America does have a real problem where a lot of the wrong kinds of people end up getting the high-powered jobs...