America should needs tougher anti firearm laws....

...we were watching the movie/documentary; Bowling for Columbine in Media today, and it made me realise just how ****ing crazy Americans really are. I mean it shows Michael Moore getting a bolt action rifle for free, just by opening a bank account.

You guys wonder why everyone else has low gun killing, but the answer is right their in front of you. STOP SELLING BULLETS A WALMART FFS. Its ridiculas how easy it is to get how of firearms in the United States, and I won't be living their any time soon.

...we were watching the movie/documentary; Bowling for Columbine in Media today, and it made me realise just how ****ing crazy Americans really are. I mean it shows Michael Moore getting a bolt action rifle for free, just by opening a bank account.

You guys wonder why everyone else has low gun killing, but the answer is right their in front of you. STOP SELLING BULLETS A WALMART FFS. Its ridiculas how easy it is to get how of firearms in the United States, and I won't be living their any time soon.

Now, I'm English, and I agree that there should be gun control in the US... but at the same time I am aware that there is gun control in the US to a degree, and that it is relatively safe. I mean if someone wants a gun in the UK they can get one. Whether they are legal or not, people who want them for illegal purposes will always be able to acquire one.

Also as much as I like "Bowling for Columbine" as a film, not everything Michael Moore says is fact, he is a major offender for spinning things his own way...

Yes...because we all know those using guns for criminal purposes will be the first to turn them in.:roll:LJS9502_basic

Yes but you need to stop the circulation. Just because people already have guns, doesn't mean you cant stop the source. gamedude2020

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes...because we all know those using guns for criminal purposes will be the first to turn them in.:roll:Mr_sprinkles

If someone is bent on killing another.,..they will find a way.;)

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes...because we all know those using guns for criminal purposes will be the first to turn them in.:roll:LJS9502_basic

If someone is bent on killing another.,..they will find a way.;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes...because we all know those using guns for criminal purposes will be the first to turn them in.:roll:Mr_sprinkles

If someone is bent on killing another.,..they will find a way.;)

but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

Yeah, but is it easy to stop a man with a knife? because if it's not a gun it will be a knife, and if its not a knife it will be a pipe or something... If someone wants to kill someone and they get into a position where they can, they will...

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
LJS9502_basic

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

i would agree that in some areas gun laws are too lenient and background checks aren't in depth enough and for those areas they should definitely be stricter. of course though if someone wants to purchase a gun, whether it be legal or illegal, they will and that is why most homicides are committed using illegal firearms.

overall, as a country with the greatest amount of guns than any other nation (by far) i don't think we do too bad.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

or hunting or sport.

Men will always kill men u can't stop it sry. Be my guest and put up laws againist law breakers

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

or hunting or sport.

Men will always kill men u can't not stop it sry. Be my guest and put up laws againist law breakers

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

guns can also be used for hunting or target shooting, they have uses besides defense.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
DeeJayInphinity

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

all that would do is hurt legal gun owners. most criminals don't get guns legally anyway, so if guns were banned they could still easily get one. then how would law abiding citizens be able to defend themselves?shoeman12

so your saying no criminal has ever bought a gun legally? please show me were you found these facts.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes...because we all know those using guns for criminal purposes will be the first to turn them in.:roll:Mr_sprinkles

Law abididng citizens under most conditions don't become criminals, which is why most gun crimes are done by illegaly gotten guns.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
shoeman12

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

guns can also be used for hunting or target shooting, they have uses besides defense.

Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
Mr_sprinkles

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

Guns are for hunting. But anything can be used to kill. Including rocks....which nature makes.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

What's your point? A kitched knife, or any fixed blade, can be easily concealed under a jacket or sweatshirt, and that's besides the point. Stabbing someone doesn't require a concealed weapon. If you sneak into someones house to murder them, you don't need a gun to do it.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] but its a lot easier to restrain a man than it is to stop a bullet
LJS9502_basic

I'd wager they'd be a bit smart about it......people do die from beatings every year. Not to mention various items that can be used to kill. Do you want to outlaw knives next? Baseball bats....etc,

Guns are for 'self defence' i.e. putting holes in people.

Guns are for hunting. But anything can be used to kill. Including rocks....which nature makes.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

Carving knife? What about steak knives, paring knives, or small chefs knives?

well unless you got some leather and made yourself a sheath you'd do well to carry a concealed carving knife without stabbing yourself.
Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Manly-manly-man

Carving knife? What about steak knives, paring knives, or small chefs knives?

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

Carving knife? What about steak knives, paring knives, or small chefs knives?

That's the thing. Most shooting aren't random people being chased by random mad men with guns during broad daylight. And if someone wanted to stab you, they wouldn't announce it. They would come up behind you and stab you, there would be no running involved.

haha, I'd much rather somebody chase me down with a paring knife that with a gun.
Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Manly-manly-man

What's your point? A kitched knife, or any fixed blade, can be easily concealed under a jacket or sweatshirt, and that's besides the point. Stabbing someone doesn't require a concealed weapon. If you sneak into someones house to murder them, you don't need a gun to do it.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]haha, I'd much rather somebody chase me down with a paring knife that with a gun.
DeeJayInphinity

I'm not talking about cold calculated killers, I'm talking about people who flip out on the spur of the moment and decide killing you is a great way of letting off some of that anger. I'd much rather they have a kitchen knife under their coat that a pistol.
Mr_sprinkles

Uh huh...and you turn your back and the knife goes neatly into your heart. No chance....

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] Haha, who says a 'self-defence' knife should be legal either?
Mr_sprinkles

What's your point? A kitched knife, or any fixed blade, can be easily concealed under a jacket or sweatshirt, and that's besides the point. Stabbing someone doesn't require a concealed weapon. If you sneak into someones house to murder them, you don't need a gun to do it.

And tell me, how often does this happen exactly? How often does a law abiding citizen, with a legally owned gun, just decide to flip out and kill people?