AMERICAN EDUCATION: Horrendous, Insane, Ridiculous

Sorry - no TLDR version.

I have just about finished getting my associate's degree at a community college and I am about to start my third year of schooling at a private university, with my major being criminal justice. Although I do not have very much experience at the moment, I must say that I am absolutely disgusted by the education system in this country.

The education system is overwhelmed with flaws and outdated rules and requirements that only seem to be in existence for the sake of an omnipotent policy. If there is some sort of implementation that makes little sense, the primary general response received is, "That's just the policy and the way it is."

In order to obtain a two year degree at the community college I was going to, for example, it is a requirement that all students take a class which teaches the basic usage of a computer. The class teaches things such as what a mouse is and how it works, what a keyboard is and how it works, how to open, close and minimize windows, and many other basic functions.

While I understood the reasoning for the requirement because I believe people should know how to use computers, I saw absolutely no reason to take the class myself since I am already quite experienced with computers. After telling this to my professor, her response was, "This is just policy and it's a requirement that you take the class." I asked her whether or not there was some sort of exam I could take to prove I knew whatever the class had to teach, and she simply said, "It's just policy and you are required to take the class."

So, because, "That's just the way it is," I spent over $500 and an entire semester for one college credit.

I have never been a math person, in addition, although I usually do fairly well in all other classes. When in high school, I always tended to have a problem with math. I failed such math courses twice even though I was able to do so well in the other courses. I had to repeat the courses in summer school, so when I finished three years of it I was completely relieved.

After an entire year with absolutely no math whatsoever since it was senior year, and because I despised it so much, I nearly completely forgot even the most basic of mathematics such as long division.

"Oh well," I figured, "I already passed the classes and I am not going to have anything to do with math in college so I'll be okay."

When I went to college, I took a placement test, and because I forgot nearly all that I learned, I was told, "You are required to repeat the three years of mathematics you took in high school." Thinking there was a way to avoid this, I contacted a counselor and stated, "I am not attempting to get a degree in general studies and I want my career to be with something in criminal justice. Surely there must be a way for me to take something else to replace the math courses like Logic."

"No," he said, "It's a requirement that you take the math courses."

I am wasting so much money for classes that sometimes don't give me any college credits at all. Secondly, I am wasting time learning about math instead of law enforcement. Lastly, I took three years of math and forgot it because I despise it, so logically, I am just going to take another three years of math simply to forget it all over again.

But, I guess writing this doesn't really do anything, and complaining doesn't really do anything either, because it's just policy and it's just the way it is.

Sorry - no TLDR version.

I have just about finished getting my associate's degree at a community college and I am about to start my third year of schooling at a private university, with my major being criminal justice. Although I do not have very much experience at the moment, I must say that I am absolutely disgusted by the education system in this country.

The education system is overwhelmed with flaws and outdated rules and requirements that only seem to be in existence for the sake of an omnipotent policy. If there is some sort of implementation that makes little sense, the primary general response received is, "That's just the policy and the way it is."

In order to obtain a two year degree at the community college I was going to, for example, it is a requirement that all students take a class which teaches the basic usage of a computer. The class teaches things such as what a mouse is and how it works, what a keyboard is and how it works, how to open, close and minimize windows, and many other basic functions.

While I understood the reasoning for the requirement because I believe people should know how to use computers, I saw absolutely no reason to take the class myself since I am already quite experienced with computers. After telling this to my professor, her response was, "This is just policy and it's a requirement that you take the class." I asked her whether or not there was some sort of exam I could take to prove I knew whatever the class had to teach, and she simply said, "It's just policy and you are required to take the class."

So, because, "That's just the way it is," I spent over $500 and an entire semester for one college credit.

I have never been a math person, in addition, although I usually do fairly well in all other classes. When in high school, I always tended to have a problem with math. I failed such math courses twice even though I was able to do so well in the other courses. I had to repeat the courses in summer school, so when I finished three years of it I was completely relieved.

After an entire year with absolutely no math whatsoever since it was senior year, and because I despised it so much, I nearly completely forgot even the most basic of mathematics such as long division.

"Oh well," I figured, "I already passed the classes and I am not going to have anything to do with math in college so I'll be okay."

When I went to college, I took a placement test, and because I forgot nearly all that I learned, I was told, "You are required to repeat the three years of mathematics you took in high school." Thinking there was a way to avoid this, I contacted a counselor and stated, "I am not attempting to get a degree in general studies and I want my career to be with something in criminal justice. Surely there must be a way for me to take something else to replace the math courses like Logic."

"No," he said, "It's a requirement that you take the math courses."

I am wasting so much money for classes that sometimes don't give me any college credits at all. Secondly, I am wasting time learning about math instead of law enforcement. Lastly, I took three years of math and forgot it because I despise it, so logically, I am just going to take another three years of math simply to forget it all over again.

But, I guess writing this doesn't really do anything, and complaining doesn't really do anything either, because it's just policy and it's just the way it is.

Turtlecream

you don't know basic high school math... college graduates know at least high school math... thus you need to take it. I also hate to tell you, but if you're planning on a four year degree you are going to have to take more. I don't see the problem here...

I don't think it's "American Education" who is at fault since you "forgot all of it because you didn't like it".

College isn't just for a degree, its also to try and make you well rounded in all areas. As much as I didn't want to take a music or art history class, I understand learning new things and new ways of thinking is very beneficial to the overall learning process. Though you may hate math, the lessons taught from math from going to point a to point d in a logical progression will benefit you.

While you argumanet may have some logic. You should write a letter like the post above and send it to the school board or something

To get any 4 yr degree you have to take alot more math classes, not to mention other subjects that include arithmetic problems to solve.

While you argumanet may have some logic. You should write a letter like the post above and send it to the school board or something

To get any 4 yr degree you have to take alot more math classes, not to mention other subjects that include arithmetic problems to solve.

th3stausqu0

Well I guess life sometimes bites you in the ass, then. Would make more sense to take !@#$ for a few years for a life-time recession proof career then piss and moan and quit.

I feel for you on the computer part. I believe there should be a placement test for that as well since even basic computer skills are as essential if not more essential than basic English and math skills but you have to at least know basic Algebra and Geometry. The numbers seem useless but math builds up problem solving skills and effective ways to tackle problems even though it may not seem like it.

Our education system is flawed though. K-12 and post high school. I too had to take the "this is a mouse derrrrr" computer **** The worst part is it was after a Linux and Networking c1ass :?

The reason they make you take math is so that they know you can solve problems. It's a general requirement in ANY field you go into. The actual math isn't very necessary though.

When I went to college, I took a placement test, and because I forgot nearly all that I learned, I was told, "You are required to repeat the three years of mathematics you took in high school." Thinking there was a way to avoid this, I contacted a counselor and stated, "I am not attempting to get a degree in general studies and I want my career to be with something in criminal justice. Surely there must be a way for me to take something else to replace the math courses like Logic."

"No," he said, "It's a requirement that you take the math courses."

Turtlecream

I hope your not saying that math doesn't require logic to solve a problem. If anything, you should take that logic class to help you in math.

First of all, you went to a community college so I don't know why you expecting it to not suck.

Second, the math requisite is a common staple among all universities and colleges around the world. Usually all you need to do to get past it is take a very basic math course (usually something called "mathematical modeling"). If, however, your math skills are so terrible that placement test scores show you couldn't even handle that you're going to have to take remedial classes. I don't see why you're complaining that a college isn't letting you graduate without being able to do math at a college level.

I like living in Canada :oops: -katamarina-

[QUOTE="-katamarina-"]I like living in Canada :oops: mfp16

[QUOTE="-katamarina-"]I like living in Canada :oops: mfp16

Max. level required is gr. 11 math. However, you'll probably need gr. 12 advanced functions andintroductory calculus if you want a variety of university courses to choose from.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="-katamarina-"]I like living in Canada :oops: Desulated

Max. level required is gr. 11 math. However, you'll probably need gr. 12 advanced functions andintroductory calculus if you want a variety of university courses to choose from.