"If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Correct Answer: "Maybe"
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"If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Correct Answer: "Maybe"
umm it does make a sound, when it falls it creates a force which causes sound wave to move throught air, the sound is still there, just no one is there to resept the waves and interpret them. I never could understand why people say that's complicated. ferrari2001
However because there are no observer's around it's stuck in a state of Quantum Superposition. There is a chance that it may make a sound however there is also a chance that it won't.
It's Schrödinger's tree.
[QUOTE="nisshoku1729"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]umm it does make a sound, when it falls it creates a force which causes sound wave to move throught air, the sound is still there, just no one is there to resept the waves and interpret them. I never could understand why people say that's complicated. The_Mac_Daddy
However because there are no observer's around it's stuck in a state of Quantum Superposition. There is a chance that it may make a sound however there is also a chance that it won't.
It's Schrödinger's tree.
If I raped you up the ass while you were sleeping, and nobody else was around to see it, would your butthole still hurt in the morning?
maybe
[QUOTE="nisshoku1729"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]umm it does make a sound, when it falls it creates a force which causes sound wave to move throught air, the sound is still there, just no one is there to resept the waves and interpret them. I never could understand why people say that's complicated. The_Mac_Daddy
However because there are no observer's around it's stuck in a state of Quantum Superposition. There is a chance that it may make a sound however there is also a chance that it won't.
It's Schrödinger's tree.
If I raped you up the ass while you were sleeping, and nobody else was around to see it, would your butthole still hurt in the morning?
:lol: lmfaoDepends how you define a sound. Technically, in order for something to be sound there needs to be an external actor perceiving the waves. From a pure semantics point of view, a tree does not make a sound when it falls in the woods and no ears are around.Vandalvideo
But wouldn't there still be sound waves? Yes there would. The sound waves can rattle rocks.. so yes, it still makes a sound. If I was at a party, and I cover my ears and blow a fart out of my ass, even though I didn't hear it, the sound was still emitted. How do I know? Because of the look on everybody's faces after I let the brown cloud erupt between my flapping cheeks.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Depends how you define a sound. Technically, in order for something to be sound there needs to be an external actor perceiving the waves. From a pure semantics point of view, a tree does not make a sound when it falls in the woods and no ears are around.The_Mac_Daddy
But wouldn't there still be sound waves? Yes there would. The sound waves can rattle rocks.. so yes, it still makes a sound. If I was at a party, and I cover my ears and blow a fart out of my ass, even though I didn't hear it, the sound was still emitted. How do I know? Because of the look on everybody's faces after I let the brown cloud erupt.
"Sound waves" and "Sound" are two entirely different things. Strictly speaking, in order for something to be "sound", "ears" have to hear it. Atleast, thats how the OED defines sound.[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Depends how you define a sound. Technically, in order for something to be sound there needs to be an external actor perceiving the waves. From a pure semantics point of view, a tree does not make a sound when it falls in the woods and no ears are around.Vandalvideo
But wouldn't there still be sound waves? Yes there would. The sound waves can rattle rocks.. so yes, it still makes a sound. If I was at a party, and I cover my ears and blow a fart out of my ass, even though I didn't hear it, the sound was still emitted. How do I know? Because of the look on everybody's faces after I let the brown cloud erupt.
"Sound waves" and "Sound" are two entirely different things. Strictly speaking, in order for something to be "sound", "ears" have to hear it. Atleast, thats how the OED defines sound.It still makes sound. OED doesn't know jack ****.
It still makes sound. OED doesn't know jack ****. The_Mac_DaddyYes, the Oxford Englsih Dictionary, the most reputable source of the english language, doesn't know jack.
Sound is an auditory impression; if no one detects the pressure waves that result in sound, no sound occurs."If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Correct Answer: "Maybe"
nisshoku1729
There may not even be sound waves. The energy that is required to create sound may dissipate all together (which is allowable in relativistic mechanics because there if there is less positive energy there is equally less negative potential energy i n the gravitational field.)
Now the chance that the energy will dissipate is extremely low and we can say with an almost positive certainty that it would never happen. But with each falling of each tree we cannot predict that it will happen so we say that it both happens and doesn't happen. Or to put it in the context of the question, the tree is in a state where it both emits a sound and doesn't emit a sound.
[QUOTE="nisshoku1729"]Sound is an auditory impression; if no one detects the pressure waves that result in sound, no sound occurs."If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Correct Answer: "Maybe"
xaos
are eardrums the only things that can "detect" sound though?
the leaves are shaken slightly because the sound waves from the tree falling came in contact with them.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="nisshoku1729"]Sound is an auditory impression; if no one detects the pressure waves that result in sound, no sound occurs."If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Correct Answer: "Maybe"
Heydanbud92
are eardrums the only things that can "detect" sound though?
the leaves are shaken slightly because the sound waves from the tree falling came in contact with them.
Thats not an auditory impression; auditory impression requires that some sensorium perceive themthe butterfly effect is more a statistical law than any kind of philosophical answer. some things really just don't matter.If a big earth quake happens on the other side of the sea, no one can feel it, see it, hear it, does it means human will not experience it? In Hawaii, you will experience Tsunami, a giant wave traveled in the medium of water, not air, not photon. You will not feel the earth quake, but you will experience its by product.
I don't care your playing of words. Something happened means it happened. The energy can be converted into different energy. Can be heat, waves, momentum, and other energy. You will experience it indirectly one way or another.
If you want philosophy, read up butterfly effect.
magicalclick
If a big earth quake happens on the other side of the sea, no one can feel it, see it, hear it, does it means human will not experience it? In Hawaii, you will experience Tsunami, a giant wave traveled in the medium of water, not air, not photon. You will not feel the earth quake, but you will experience its by product.
I don't care your playing of words. Something happened means it happened. The energy can be converted into different energy. Can be heat, waves, momentum, and other energy. You will experience it indirectly one way or another.
If you want philosophy, read up butterfly effect.
magicalclick
The whole spirit of the paradox is what happens with something that cannot be observed. We are able to observe the earthquake, at least indirectly, from the tsunami. If we were to theoretically isolate something completely (which is impossible but let's say we can) what happens when an event, such as the tree falling, occurs.
Hell, we don't even know if the tree fell.
[QUOTE="magicalclick"]the butterfly effect is more a statistical law than any kind of philosophical answer. some things really just don't matter.If a big earth quake happens on the other side of the sea, no one can feel it, see it, hear it, does it means human will not experience it? In Hawaii, you will experience Tsunami, a giant wave traveled in the medium of water, not air, not photon. You will not feel the earth quake, but you will experience its by product.
I don't care your playing of words. Something happened means it happened. The energy can be converted into different energy. Can be heat, waves, momentum, and other energy. You will experience it indirectly one way or another.
If you want philosophy, read up butterfly effect.
quiglythegreat
umm it does make a sound, when it falls it creates a force which causes sound wave to move throught air, the sound is still there, just no one is there to resept the waves and interpret them. I never could understand why people say that's complicated. ferrari2001
Ah, but is that really a sound? Or is that just a wave of pressure, and doesn't become a sound until it vibrates your ear drum?
It all depends on how you define the word.
I think nobody in this tread understands the logic behind first post, hence we're back to the old philosophical paradox.Xx_CYC756_xX
sigh, I guess it's hopeless
I think nobody in this tread understands the logic behind first post, hence we're back to the old philosophical paradox.Xx_CYC756_xX
No, I got it. I just wasn't all that amused.
I've already answered this one before, but I'll go for it again.
"If a tree falls in a forest, and Nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound."
Answer: Absolutely
Explanation: The tree falls in a forest. There is somebody around to hear it. His name is Nobody. So a tree falls in a forest, Nobody is around to hear it, Nobody hears it, the tree has made a sound. Next question.
I've already answered this one before, but I'll go for it again.
"If a tree falls in a forest, and Nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound."
Answer: Absolutely
Explanation: The tree falls in a forest. There is somebody around to hear it. His name is Nobody. So a tree falls in a forest, Nobody is around to hear it, Nobody hears it, the tree has made a sound. Next question.
MetroidPrimePwn
But what if Nobody was deaf?
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