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#1 Lonelynight
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seriously, wtf
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#2 br0kenrabbit
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There's a lot of Japanese who are in denial about events during the Second World War, but when you have such a homogeneous society it's easy to cover your eyes and ears and sing.

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welp............................. wat are we gonna do
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#4 LJS9502_basic  Online
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So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....
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So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....LJS9502_basic

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....sSubZerOo

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

If someone said they hated Germans because of it...yes.
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#7 DaBrainz
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Not as bad as the internment camps we had on US soil.
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#8 ScorpionTroll
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The Japanese were bastards during WWII and some Japanese today are ignorant jackasses about it. But since their defeat, they've by and large kept their hands to themselves and have contributed a good deal to the world.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....LJS9502_basic

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

If someone said they hated Germans because of it...yes.

What if they were saying that the Holocaust was neccesary or denying it? Because that is exactly what the TC was pointing out, that a mayor of a major city was defending the practice..

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sadly, wartime sex slaves had it better than other women who were simply raped on the spot then murdered by the Japanese one of the sadder parts of Japanese wartime horrendous acts is that they're in denial of them, or they downplay the issues as being overblown, much of the denial comes from people in high government places on thing is if you hear about the Japanese who conducted medical experiments on civilians during WW2 many of those people ended up going back to Japan and becoming prominent people in government, probably many of these people in their positions and social affluence are going to shape the national mindset, none of these people were prosecuted since the US worked a deal to not prosecute for war crimes in exchange for shared knowledge gained in those medical experiments
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Prostitution is bad when it consist of two consenting adults?
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....LJS9502_basic

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

If someone said they hated Germans because of it...yes.

This is a government figure (a mayor) that says that the rape of women was necessary during the war to keep the soldiers morale high. What if the mayor of Berlin comes along and tells us the holocaust was necessary?
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#13 Treflis
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It's been 73 years, Move on.

Europe did and we're no longer pointing fingers at Italy or Germany and going " Bad, you are bad"

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....LJS9502_basic

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

If someone said they hated Germans because of it...yes.

the Germans by and large acknowledge the atrocities their country committed, the Japanese don't
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It's been 73 years, Move on.

Europe did and we're no longer pointing fingers at Italy or Germany and going " Bad, you are bad"

Treflis

The problem is Germany acknowledge them, and a mayor of a major German City wasn't saying they were necessary.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]sadly, wartime sex slaves had it better than other women who were simply raped on the spot then murdered by the Japanese one of the sadder parts of Japanese wartime horrendous acts is that they're in denial of them, or they downplay the issues as being overblown, much of the denial comes from people in high government places on thing is if you hear about the Japanese who conducted medical experiments on civilians during WW2 many of those people ended up going back to Japan and becoming prominent people in government, probably many of these people in their positions and social affluence are going to shape the national mindset, none of these people were prosecuted since the US worked a deal to not prosecute for war crimes in exchange for shared knowledge gained in those medical experiments

I never understood this. The Germans get so much hate because of what they did, but the Japanese were even worse, and everybody simply forgot about them. How many german doctors and officers were hunted and prosecuted? Now how many japanese? I still can't believe the US simply forgave those animals, many of whom are now rich and influential. The americans sold justice that many victims deserve, and Americans wonder why other countries don't like them.
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I think it's mainly the Chinese that hate Japanese now. I've met some pretty racist Chinese people. :( My mom even avoids Chinese restaurants / stores because of bad experiences with them.
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So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....LJS9502_basic
Terrible stuff and all but I agree with this. Even someone born during the war would be going into their late 60's. Why anyone would hate a whole country and culture for mistakes they made decades ago is quite baffling.
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#19 LOXO7
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No way! Americans like the Japanese. They make the stuff and we use the stuff.  Inflating their own money only solidifies this deal, making Japan America's slave.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/business/global/pro-inflation-policies-show-signs-of-helping-japan-economy.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

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#20 one_plum
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It's been 73 years, Move on.

Europe did and we're no longer pointing fingers at Italy or Germany and going " Bad, you are bad"

Treflis

I suppose Europeans would be fine if Germany and Italy changed their history books to glorify the Axis...

Look how fast people were on Ahmadinejad's back when he made his Holocaust denial comment.

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#21 Audacitron
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Japanese have some messed up attitudes in some regards, but in fairness to them

 

They did get double-nuked.

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#22 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

It's been 73 years, Move on.

Europe did and we're no longer pointing fingers at Italy or Germany and going " Bad, you are bad"

Treflis
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you haven't moved past WW2? I wasn't aware you were alive then....SaintLeonidas
Terrible stuff and all but I agree with this. Even someone born during the war would be going into their late 60's. Why anyone would hate a whole country and culture for mistakes they made decades ago is quite baffling.

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#23 lamprey263
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Japanese have some messed up attitudes in some regards, but in fairness to them

 

They did get double-nuked.

Audacitron
the deaths suffered by Japan in those two bombings are only a small fraction of the casualties inflicted on the Chinese during the war, between 10-20 million, as the two atomic bombs combined accounted for 250,000, that's less than the 1.5 million civilian deaths in Indochina, another 1 million in Philippines... the nuke card is a weak card it doesn't come close to fair, but I'm sure everyone involved would like to move passed this, but for that to happen the country needs to acknowledge the atrocities they inflicted and not be in denial that such things even happened
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I got ban from random yokos facebook page, shes a blogger that lives in Japan. She said that Japan never did anything like the Nanjing massacrer. I told her off for trying to change history and she said i was brain washed by western prapaganda. She started to quote a N azi saying if you repeat a lie it becomes true.  I told her that that line goes really good both ways then she blocked me.

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Japanese have some messed up attitudes in some regards, but in fairness to them

 

They did get double-nuked.

Audacitron

Two wrongs don't make a right.

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[QUOTE="Audacitron"]

Japanese have some messed up attitudes in some regards, but in fairness to them

 

They did get double-nuked.

0Hamburgher

Two wrongs don't make a right.

quite right ol chum! Just because bad things happen to you does not make all the evil krap you did is okay.

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#27 hippiesanta
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other asian must hate japanese because of world war two and for the present day excuse is that the Japanese are way more liberal than most conservative/extremist asian country
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I got ban from random yokos facebook page, shes a blogger that lives in Japan. She said that Japan never did anything like the Nanjing massacrer. I told her off for trying to change history and she said i was brain washed by western prapaganda. She started to quote a N azi saying if you repeat a lie it becomes true.  I told her that that line goes really good both ways then she blocked me.

osirisx3
Random Yoko, oh Christ, I heard of that bitch, I think the last OT thread about Japanese denial of the Nanking Massacre was in reaction to stupid videos she made.
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Not as bad as the internment camps we had on US soil.DaBrainz
What do you even know about those?
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#30 Brendissimo35
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Compare Germany and Japan's handling of the legacy of war crimes and waging wars of conquest and you'll see the problem in full. Denial of the severity and extent of war crimes in Japan is actually pretty widespread in academia and in certain political circles. Some elements of the far-right in Japan actually celebrate Japan's conduct in World War II. In contrast, German law is highly restrictive of Holocaust denial or Nazism.

I'm not trying to trivialize the suffering of the civilian populations of Japan or Germany, but Japan has a serious historiography problem.

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#31 lostrib
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Not as bad as the internment camps we had on US soil.DaBrainz

Not true

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Japanese have some messed up attitudes in some regards, but in fairness to them

They did get double-nuked.

Audacitron

That does not fix anything, that just makes the people who droped the nukes an even bigger ass.

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I was just reading about this on AJE the other day. loool what an asshole.  That said, hating an entire group isn't the answer.

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I like Japan so shoo. Not a fan of Malaysian minorities from China though.

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I hate every single member of a country for things their ancestors did multiple decades ago. :cool:

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Prostitution is bad when it consist of two consenting adults? Fightingfan
it is when the government doesn't tax it ;)
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I thought Filipinos were considered the pariahs of the Asian race?

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#38 The_Lipscomb
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I would love to go to Japan. Hong Kong was great.. but wanted to go to Japan first.

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#39 lostrib
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I thought Filipinos were considered the pariahs of the Asian race?

The_Power_of_X

That's just racism, lots of asians look down on filipinos, as well as vietnamese/thai/south east asia.  This is more of just flat out hate

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#40 The_Lipscomb
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[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]

I thought Filipinos were considered the pariahs of the Asian race?

lostrib

That's just racism, lots of asians look down on filipinos, as well as vietnamese/thai/south east asia.  This is more of just flat out hate

Which will never end.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:| This is a silly comment.. LJ would you say the same thing about the Holocaust?

sSubZerOo

If someone said they hated Germans because of it...yes.

What if they were saying that the Holocaust was neccesary or denying it? Because that is exactly what the TC was pointing out, that a mayor of a major city was defending the practice..

Mayor or not, that's one man. He does not speak for the rest of the country even if he wishes he did. I'm not gonna label or hate an entire population because of one or a group of morally twisted individuals.

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I hate every single member of a country for things their ancestors did multiple decades ago. :cool:

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for fvck sakes, I don't hate all Japanese because of this, but only that I'm saying things like this is what makes a lot of Asians hate Japanese. People here are idiots
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#43 lilnazar
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Can Asia get along already? WW2 was decades ago.

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How many german doctors and officers were hunted and prosecuted? Now how many japanese? I still can't believe the US simply forgave those animals, many of whom are now rich and influential. muscleserge

Don't forget about all the nazi scientists, guilty of atrocious crimes against humanity, who were moved to the US, given new identities, and put to work at NASA and the Pentagon. The Japanese weren't the only ones who got a free pass.

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#45 The_Lipscomb
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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

I hate every single member of a country for things their ancestors did multiple decades ago. :cool:

Lonelynight
for fvck sakes, I don't hate all Japanese because of this, but only that I'm saying things like this is what makes a lot of Asians hate Japanese. People here are idiots

No.
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Armies raping and forcing woman in war time? happens everywhere though I'm guessing this is to a greater extent, a politician saying that is rather crazy though .... but then he is not the voice of japan is he? hes 1 man and is probably going to get in alot of trouble now? You have to elaborate somewhat, not all of us are aware of these issues in any detail.
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Can Asia get along already? WW2 was decades ago.

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They can when Japan stops electing dumbass politicians who defend sex slavery.
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"]How many german doctors and officers were hunted and prosecuted? Now how many japanese? I still can't believe the US simply forgave those animals, many of whom are now rich and influential. the_bi99man

Don't forget about all the nazi scientists, guilty of atrocious crimes against humanity, who were moved to the US, given new identities, and put to work at NASA and the Pentagon. The Japanese weren't the only ones who got a free pass.

It's true...it's true.
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#49 GrayF0X786
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Can Asia get along already? WW2 was decades ago.

lilnazar

either way that politician should not have tried justifying the war crimes against women like that especially through the media, they should just keep quite like America.

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#50 Angie7F
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This mayor has been causing the majority of the Japanese to facepalm for many years.

i have no freakin idea my he was elected as mayor, but I am pretty sure that very few japanese support what this guy said.

Also, he already publically apologized and said that what he said regarding WW2 was wrong, but he thinks prostitution and sex industry should not be shunned.