Another awkward Herman Cain moment

This is pretty painful to watch IMO.

So basically, Herman is asked if he disagreed/disagrees with Obama's decisions on Libya and here is his answer.

He comes across as downright incoherent in this clip and he talks in extreme generalities to the point that he's not saying anything. Also, looking at this clip, it's amazing that people think he's a straight talker. He doesn't give anything resembling a straight answer. He might be the least straight talking Presidential candidate I've ever heard. To be honest, he makes Romney look like a straight talker.

Furthermore, this clip makes it pretty obvious (if it wasn't obvious before; it was to me) that Cain doesn't know much about foreign policy. He sounds like a kid trying to sound like he knows about a subject he didn't study for.

The "I would surround myself with all the facts" part was a lame way of avoiding demonstrating knowledge on the subject.

I think clips like this also show that the GOP candidate's insistence on critisizing Obama on everything makes them look pretty silly at times. While I'm not saying that Obama handled Libya perfectly, it's very clear that Cain is reaching for a reason to be opposed to Obama on this issue and he just can't manage it.

Disclaimer: you have to watch the video if you want to get a feel for just how awkward this whole exchange was.

I'd like to add that Herman Cain is starting to show Sarah Palin-like levels of unpreparedness.

Herman Cain's on the way out, being replaced by Newt Gingrich. I imagine Newt at least will last a while, might even take the nomination away from Romney.chessmaster1989

I am starting to take the idea of Gingrich being the nominee seriously, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he too crashed and burned. It all depends on whether he decides to be disciplined for once.

I think Gingrich would be defeated by Obama, but there's no doubt he'd make a stronger general election candidate than Cain. Cain would get slaughtered in those debates. He simply doesn't know enough.

This is pretty painful to watch IMO.

GreySeal9

It's like they're doing it on purpose...

disclaimer: you have to watch the video if you want to get a feel for just how awkward this whole exchange was.

GreySeal9

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disclaimer: you have to watch the video if you want to get a feel for just how awkward this whole exchange was.

ZumaJones07

:lol:

I though this was the funniest comment:"I'm not trying to hedge on the questions. It's just that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about"

It only took me half a minute to start laughing my ass off.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Herman Cain's on the way out, being replaced by Newt Gingrich. I imagine Newt at least will last a while, might even take the nomination away from Romney.GreySeal9

I am starting to take the idea of Gingrich being the nominee seriously, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he too crashed and burned. It all depends on whether he decides to be disciplined for once.

I think Gingrich would be defeated by Obama, but there's no doubt he'd make a stronger general election candidate than Cain. Cain would get slaughtered in those debates. He simply doesn't know enough.

It's like they're doing it on purpose...

Sagem28

He isn't a politician. He's abusinessman trying to get into politics. As such, a lot of these guys arent good public speakers.

He isn't a politician. He's abusinessman trying to get into politics. As such, a lot of these guys arent good public speakers.

sonicare

He isn't a politician. He's abusinessman trying to get into politics. As such, a lot of these guys arent good public speakers.

Dont get me wrong, I dont dislike Obama. I probably will end up voting for him as the current republican candidates are not appealing to me. But I'm not a fan of some of his decisions, compromises, and strategy. But I believe he would be less harmful than anyone who subscribes to the Paul Ryan plan of government destruction.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

He isn't a politician. He's abusinessman trying to get into politics. As such, a lot of these guys arent good public speakers.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"] Actually, in terms of approval, economic policy dwarfs pretty much any other issue as president. Our current one is finding that out. We need people that understand how an economy works and how businesses work. We need someone who can act and make decisions rather than just trying to go along with what is most popular. I dont think Cain is a viable candidate for a variety of reasons, but who would have thought Obama would have been a great presidential candidate? Obama had almost no executive experience prior to becoming president, and it's showed through his poor performance. He just doesnt seem comfortable being in that leadership position.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sonicare"] Actually, in terms of approval, economic policy dwarfs pretty much any other issue as president. Our current one is finding that out. We need people that understand how an economy works and how businesses work. We need someone who can act and make decisions rather than just trying to go along with what is most popular. I dont think Cain is a viable candidate for a variety of reasons, but who would have thought Obama would have been a great presidential candidate? Obama had almost no executive experience prior to becoming president, and it's showed through his poor performance. He just doesnt seem comfortable being in that leadership position.sonicare

It's like they're doing it on purpose...

Sagem28

i know :P

but theyre not :(

so sad.

yikes, you just cant have brain farts when you are running for or being president, just cant happen~

so hes done, perry is done, romney cant get off the ground, and newt will just shoot himself in the foot again with some outrageous comment.

wtf republicans?? this is seriously the best we can muster. pathetic at best~

Well, if you consider straight-talking the same thing as repeating your SINGLE idea, then I suppose he is a straight-talker.

On an off-topic note, I love how Newt is gaining the momentum Cain had.

yikes, you just cant have brain farts when you are running for or being president, just cant happen~

so hes done, perry is done, romney cant get off the ground, and newt will just shoot himself in the foot again with some outrageous comment.

wtf republicans?? this is seriously the best we can muster. pathetic at best~

GamingTitan

What has Newt said that's been ridiculous?

What were the other awkward moments from Cain? ...jshaas

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Herman Cain's on the way out, being replaced by Newt Gingrich. I imagine Newt at least will last a while, might even take the nomination away from Romney.DevilMightCry

I am starting to take the idea of Gingrich being the nominee seriously, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he too crashed and burned. It all depends on whether he decides to be disciplined for once.

I think Gingrich would be defeated by Obama, but there's no doubt he'd make a stronger general election candidate than Cain. Cain would get slaughtered in those debates. He simply doesn't know enough.

I don't see how Reagan's victory is relevant to Newt Gingrich.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] Unfortunately for him, foreign policy is just as important for a president as economic policy. And when you have to stop and think for a good minute to remember what has happened in Libya this year (one of the biggest world events of 2011), then you are really, really not making yourself look like a viable candidate.surrealnumber5

He may not be great in office, but I don't know how anybody can say that he wasn't a great candidate. He had almost everything going for him during the 2008 campaign: he was articulate, knowledgable, moderate enough, and he ran a very effective campaign.

A great candidate, to me, means that they have what it takes to win. Obama had the winning ingredients in spades. I don't think a great candidate=great President.

What were the other awkward moments from Cain? I've been paying really close attention to this whole race, and I haven't seen him make any major gaffs. This is clearly a situation where he wasn't prepared to answer the question. He has stated several times that his foreign policy knowledge is very limited, and he would have to trust his advisors as POTUS... which is what most have done. He would've been much better off to say that he didn't have an opinion on the matter until the situation in Libya has concluded. Or, that his main focus has been fixing the economy and that he hasn't put much thought into it. Almost anything would've been better than what he did. But, after all he is human and we mess up and have huge brain farts from time to time...i.e. Perry forgetting his third point the last debate. Overall, I disagree with TC about Cain not being a "straight talker." He's been very consistent the whole time, and is getting better during the debates. His foriegn policy knowledge will come to him. It's not that big of a deal. He's said that he would trust the generals that are actually fighting the war instead ignoring them as Obama seems to be doing. For me, that's good enough for now. If he's elected I'll expect him to make knowing foreign policy a top priority... which is what he's already said he would do. I the vote were held today... I'd vote for him or Newt. They're the only two viable options to beat Obama and make the necessary changes in DC.jshaas

Have you heard him on abortion? He stated a pro-choice position and then tried to damage control and make it look like he was pro life all the time.

He's contradicted himself various times on the sexual harrasment issue.

Another awkward moment is when Cain couldn't answer a question about healthcare and said to Newt, "you go."

How is Cain a viable option to beat Obama? Not only does he lack neccesary knowledge, he also has sexual harrasment allegations hanging over him.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] Actually, in terms of approval, economic policy dwarfs pretty much any other issue as president. Our current one is finding that out. We need people that understand how an economy works and how businesses work. We need someone who can act and make decisions rather than just trying to go along with what is most popular. I dont think Cain is a viable candidate for a variety of reasons, but who would have thought Obama would have been a great presidential candidate? Obama had almost no executive experience prior to becoming president, and it's showed through his poor performance. He just doesnt seem comfortable being in that leadership position.GreySeal9

He may not be great in office, but I don't know how anybody can say that he wasn't a great candidate. He had almost everything going for him during the 2008 campaign: he was articulate, knowledgable, moderate enough, and he ran a very effective campaign.

A great candidate, to me, means that they have what it takes to win. Obama had the winning ingredients in spades. I don't think a great candidate=great President.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Herman Cain's on the way out, being replaced by Newt Gingrich. I imagine Newt at least will last a while, might even take the nomination away from Romney.GreySeal9

I am starting to take the idea of Gingrich being the nominee seriously, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he too crashed and burned. It all depends on whether he decides to be disciplined for once.

I think Gingrich would be defeated by Obama, but there's no doubt he'd make a stronger general election candidate than Cain. Cain would get slaughtered in those debates. He simply doesn't know enough.

I can add that to my list on Herman Cain:

• Quoted Pokemon as a great poet
• adopted an economic policy [9-9-9] from the video game: Sim City
• Settled three cases of sexual Harrasment with 3 different women
• Didn't know China has Nuclear weapons
• "I'm not sure what Obama did, but I'm sure I'm against it." Opinion on Libya

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] as we have seen obama was not a great candidate as he has not been good in office, he has only been more of the same only to a larger degree, and we get what we have not yet paid for.

surrealnumber5

He may not be great in office, but I don't know how anybody can say that he wasn't a great candidate. He had almost everything going for him during the 2008 campaign: he was articulate, knowledgable, moderate enough, and he ran a very effective campaign.

A great candidate, to me, means that they have what it takes to win. Obama had the winning ingredients in spades. I don't think a great candidate=great President.

Oh, OK. It's just that I when I think of being a candidate, salesmanship (which is a good word) is what I primarily think about.

Gingrich has been through two divorces, and both were ugly. There's no way he'll win the nomination.

kussese

When did divorces start having any bearing on how good of a President someone will be?

[QUOTE="kussese"]

Gingrich has been through two divorces, and both were ugly. There's no way he'll win the nomination.

airshocker

When did divorces start having any bearing on how good of a President someone will be?

did they ask him who the president of ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan was?comp_atkins

[QUOTE="kussese"]

Gingrich has been through two divorces, and both were ugly. There's no way he'll win the nomination.

airshocker

When did divorces start having any bearing on how good of a President someone will be?

They don't, but hypocrisy does. He was crusading against Clinton for his affair while he was cheating on his own wife. He's hardly a good front runner for a party that prides itself on its family values. kussese

This party is about more than just family values. Hell, I'm of the opinion that family values and social issues can be thrown out of this entire campaign. We don't need to champion those issues, we need someone who is going to do what's necessary to to help our economy and keep us safe.

[QUOTE="kussese"]

Gingrich has been through two divorces, and both were ugly. There's no way he'll win the nomination.

airshocker

When did divorces start having any bearing on how good of a President someone will be?

Swing and a miss. And people actually thought Cain was a serious contender.

As for Gingrich, he tries too hard in pleasing the religious right

Herman Cain's on the way out, being replaced by Newt Gingrich. I imagine Newt at least will last a while, might even take the nomination away from Romney.chessmaster1989

Agreed. Gingrich does seem to be more stable than previous choices by that wing of the party. He can't go after Romney regarding health insurance when competition heats up, though.

[QUOTE="jshaas"]What were the other awkward moments from Cain? I've been paying really close attention to this whole race, and I haven't seen him make any major gaffs. This is clearly a situation where he wasn't prepared to answer the question. He has stated several times that his foreign policy knowledge is very limited, and he would have to trust his advisors as POTUS... which is what most have done. He would've been much better off to say that he didn't have an opinion on the matter until the situation in Libya has concluded. Or, that his main focus has been fixing the economy and that he hasn't put much thought into it. Almost anything would've been better than what he did. But, after all he is human and we mess up and have huge brain farts from time to time...i.e. Perry forgetting his third point the last debate. Overall, I disagree with TC about Cain not being a "straight talker." He's been very consistent the whole time, and is getting better during the debates. His foriegn policy knowledge will come to him. It's not that big of a deal. He's said that he would trust the generals that are actually fighting the war instead ignoring them as Obama seems to be doing. For me, that's good enough for now. If he's elected I'll expect him to make knowing foreign policy a top priority... which is what he's already said he would do. I the vote were held today... I'd vote for him or Newt. They're the only two viable options to beat Obama and make the necessary changes in DC.GreySeal9

Have you heard him on abortion? He stated a pro-choice position and then tried to damage control and make it look like he was pro life all the time.

He's contradicted himself various times on the sexual harrasment issue.

Another awkward moment is when Cain couldn't answer a question about healthcare and said to Newt, "you go."

How is Cain a viable option to beat Obama? Not only does he lack neccesary knowledge, he also has sexual harrasment allegations hanging over him.

Herman Cain is the worst candidate to be the commander and chief. He hardly has any views of his own, he just sticks to the GOP wants. I don't think he knows a single thing about foreign policy. I've seen him in many videos where he cannot even answer a question directly. He often says "Well if you know the _____, then you know that _____" and obviously feeds around the bush.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="jshaas"]What were the other awkward moments from Cain? I've been paying really close attention to this whole race, and I haven't seen him make any major gaffs. This is clearly a situation where he wasn't prepared to answer the question. He has stated several times that his foreign policy knowledge is very limited, and he would have to trust his advisors as POTUS... which is what most have done. He would've been much better off to say that he didn't have an opinion on the matter until the situation in Libya has concluded. Or, that his main focus has been fixing the economy and that he hasn't put much thought into it. Almost anything would've been better than what he did. But, after all he is human and we mess up and have huge brain farts from time to time...i.e. Perry forgetting his third point the last debate. Overall, I disagree with TC about Cain not being a "straight talker." He's been very consistent the whole time, and is getting better during the debates. His foriegn policy knowledge will come to him. It's not that big of a deal. He's said that he would trust the generals that are actually fighting the war instead ignoring them as Obama seems to be doing. For me, that's good enough for now. If he's elected I'll expect him to make knowing foreign policy a top priority... which is what he's already said he would do. I the vote were held today... I'd vote for him or Newt. They're the only two viable options to beat Obama and make the necessary changes in DC.jshaas

Have you heard him on abortion? He stated a pro-choice position and then tried to damage control and make it look like he was pro life all the time.

He's contradicted himself various times on the sexual harrasment issue.

Another awkward moment is when Cain couldn't answer a question about healthcare and said to Newt, "you go."

How is Cain a viable option to beat Obama? Not only does he lack neccesary knowledge, he also has sexual harrasment allegations hanging over him.

I know you can't stand Obama, but there is absolutely no way that Cain is more knowledgable than Obama. That's utter BS. Obama never struggled with foreign policy questions whereas this particular video is embarrasing. Cain also didn't know that China has nuclear weapons. Can you recall Obama ever not knowing something like that?

Cain is clearly stating a prochoice position. If he thinks government has no business dictating what we can do with our bodies, he's pro-choice.

Also, even if you think Obama is "mucking things up," he still has 3 years of experience and Cain doesn't. It doesn't even make any goddamn sense to say that Cain has more experience when he's never held a government position. Are you forgetting that Obama had spent several years in the Illinois legislature in the Senate?

Seriously, your dislike of Obama is blinding you to basic logic. It is impossible for Cain to have more experience pertaining to the Presidency because Obama is the President.

[QUOTE="kussese"]

Gingrich has been through two divorces, and both were ugly. There's no way he'll win the nomination.

airshocker

When did divorces start having any bearing on how good of a President someone will be?

problably around the same time presidents started to get impeached for having affairs with interns. Not exactly a divorce, but close enough...