Another Obama's failed legacy Libya;Libyans Miss Gaddafi

From the ever growing list of failures. From Obamacare to the middle east and of course Obama's little war the failed Libyan intervention. Which Hillary wants to repeat it in Syria. The majority of Libyans are now missing the peaceful life they once had under gaddafi.

War Weary Libyans Miss Gaddaif.

This Woman joked about his death wants to be your president.

Life was not peaceful under the evil dictator Gaddiffi, it's why his own people killed him. Gotta agree with Hillary though, thank god that dick is dead. Libya now gets to enjoy Democracy and due process.

I followed the so called Arab Springs when they started, to tell you the true those Libyans who protested agaisnt Gaddiffi were expats.

"thank god that dick is dead. Libya now gets to enjoy Democracy and due process."

Are you stupid? or in denial Libya had no democracy since the intervention had started. The country is ruled by war lords. There is a civil war in Libya.

Libya's economy doesn't even exist.

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It wasn't a fail. That was done on purpose.

Gaddafi didn't have a debt-based monetary system. Electricity, schooling, and healthcare was provided for free by Gaddafi. He had planned to give wealth to the African nations pegging gold to his oil, the Gold Dinar. This was a threat to the US hegemony in Africa.

Want to see an evil monarchy, look at Saudi Arabia. They use white phosphorus on civilians in Yemen, bomb schools, funerals, hospitals, factories, etc. Saudi Arabia has donated a lot of money to the Clinton's.

"Life was not peaceful under the evil dictator Gaddiffi"

It was more peaceful then what a hellhole it is now. Your Obama and Hillary created a safe heaven for Terrorists and black markets. Go read the articles Libya is officially a failed state.

No matter the Russians are now back in the middle east.

@Gaming-Planet: Those privelges were only available to some, not all. Why do you think they had a civil war.

That white phosphorus is legal, we used it in Iraq and even in American prisons. Also the Republican lead House and Senate is who gave the weapons to Saudia Arabia.

The wikileaks has exposed that Hillary is ready to take action against Saudia Arabia and Bahrain. Them evil dictators are next. Also that evil Russian dictator ol Putang Putin is going down. Down with dictators!

The wikileaks has exposed that Hillary is supported by Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and Qatar not taking action.

Happy Birthday! Bill Clinton Received $1 Million Birthday Gift from the Islamic Government of Qatar in 2011

"[Qatar] Would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” Ami Desai, director of foreign policy for the Clinton Foundation, wrote in 2012."

"Also that evil Russian dictator ol Putang Putin is going down"

What are you smoking? must be something heavy.

Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Bragged About Being Invited to Putin’s ‘Inner Sanctum’

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I have read the Wikileaks leaked emails that they had so far released if anyone is a puppet to Putin that would be Hillary.

Putin will still exist long before your witch Hillary gets impeached.

@CommandoAgent: Hey now, Qatar is awesome. They allow Religious debates and have a debator so famous he's wanted dead or alive with a big reward from many extreme Islamic groups.

Also, enjoy your evil dictator Putang Putin, his people will take him out soon too, his economy is shrinking. They fear Hillary because she laughs in the face of evil dictators and eats them for breakfast. Then she's feasts on the remains of their children,

A regime that supports ISIS isn't awesome.

@Gaming-Planet: Qatar supports Democracy, don't believe the propaganda. They have religious freedom there.

LOL LOL Russia economy is shrinking? Russia is a nation of oil, and regional countries like India, Pak and now officially Egypt. Russia influence is coming back in the middle east. If Anyone's economy is shrinking that would be America's and Europe's falling union.

'Send billions to EU to protect the City': Euro will fall like a house of cards, warns its architect

Billions aren't going to save the EU fantasy. Russia is stronger now The European Union is weaker not to mention the European countries facing a deep economic crisis.

"They fear Hillary because she laughs in the face of evil dictators and eats them for breakfast"

Like this Saudi Tyrant?

The same Saudis/Qataris who are starving and bombing innocent civilians in Yemen right?

"They have religious freedom there"

How many Christian Churches kid? baddest temples? give me ya a full list then if you dare. If you don't have it, then your just trolling.

Hillary confirmed it in the leaked emails. I guess Hillary is peddling fiction, huh?

@CommandoAgent: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Qatar

For those claiming that Russia economy is shrinking. You should all take a very close look at the European Markets a very gloomy future is coming. The Russian sanctions have impacted Europe more then they had on Russia. So please dont make me laugh kids.

German, Italian banks are falling. Oh well If Hillary wins she will be dealing with a Fallen Europe and all thanks to the Leftists lol. Seriously i am not joking.

Dont feed the troll. He is the same guy who pretended as if Saudi Arabia is a world leader in human rights reform. I dont even think he knows that Qatar's legal system is Sharia law. Democracy. sheeeeit

If you believe the piece of BS. Then you can also that Pigs can fly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/journalism-boot-camp/middle-east-christians-vi_b_241087.html

"The church where Greek Orthodox Ft. Makarios Makarios will hold services in the Arabian Gulf state of Qatar hasn’t been built yet. Right now, it is a construction site just poking out of the sand, just a mile south of the Qatari capital of Doha."

No churches are being built yet dispute the so called act.

@CommandoAgent: Russia is dependent on oil. They have an oil based economy. Due to the sanctions and the drop in oil price, it has caused their economy to suffer greatly. They had plans to force Ukraine to unite under Russia econimcaly, but Ukraine found out and did a back door deal to block them. Now Russia is losing Syria who they depend greatly on. Plus much, much more to come.

Russia also had to delay military funding due to economic issues. It's why America is continuing to laugh in their face and push their buttons. Also Russia relies on America heavily for food. We ball on them beaches.

"Unlike Qatar, Christians have worshiped in several ornate churches there for centuries. But in recent times, like the Qatari Christians, the Copts have adopted a bunker mentality, as extremists have attacked the community across the country."

Europe is dependent on Russian Gas.

"Due to the sanctions and the drop in oil price, it has caused their economy to suffer"

Dude are you stupid? the low oil prices had no effect on the economy but it caused an effect on the Saudis economy lol

"Now Russia is losing Syria who they depend greatly on"

What are you smoking? how is Russia losing Syria? they are building second base in Syria and SAA forces are about to liberate Aleppo.

"Plus much, much more to come."

Nice fantasy you got there hows that Saudi reforming coming along?

@CommandoAgent: No one said progress was easy. You have to fight for freedom and Democracy. Qatar will prevail. They have made amazing progress and lead in the east.

Dude, seriously. He refuses to acknowledge any facts of the Middle East situation. It's like playing tennis against a wall with this guy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPAHNNuAHMo&feature=youtu.be

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb-_Ys3XEAEyE2t.png

Syrian Arab Army control Syria over 50% or more of the areas.

"Russia also had to delay military funding due to economic issues. It's why America is continuing to laugh in their face and push their buttons. Also Russia relies on America heavily for food. We ball on them beaches"

Your quite stupid.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-egyptian-troops-hold-exercises-el-alamein-42745576

@hillelslovak: He hasn't refuted nothing. Theres nothing to debate.

@commandoagent: The evil Syrian dictator will soon fall. As I've stated, down with all dictators.

Here's some advice for ya take some time off the internet.

"Qatar will prevail. They have made amazing progress and lead in the east"

Yes like arming and funding bunch of Jihadists in Syria. Thats quite progress.

@CommandoAgent: Qatar's government doesn't fund terroists, they fund democarcy.

LOL are you still hoping for Hillary to save your ya Terrorists? thats not going to happen unless u want a war with Russia and Syria.

@CommandoAgent: As I've stated, down with all dictators, Hillary will destroy them all.

Nope. I would rather flay my cock than try to illuminate your areas of ignorance, only for you to go spin spin spin, whilst ignoring articles. NOPE!

@hillelslovak: Sounds like fear to me. You scared of another arse whopping no doubt.

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/

They do, and most governments already know this. The perpetrators are Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. Al Nusra mostly comes out of Saudi Arabia too.

@Gaming-Planet: It's not government funding though, it's just people who live there that have been funding. Hillary is trying to push them to punish such acts and help stop them.

And if they don't help, the consiquances will be great. We will sanction the shat out of them.

Saying spin baby spin, whilst refusing to discuss information provided is not an arse whooping, or an ass whooping as us adults would call it.

Americans from all sides of the isle have been meddling in foreign affairs--regime change, I believe it is called--for decades upon decades.

I think criticizing one person while not bringing up the history of these actions by both parties is pretty weak. You say Libya and Clinton, I say Iraq and Bush Jr. You say Iran and Reagan, I say Bay of Pigs and Kennedy.

With that said, this is getting old; I've lost count how many times I've seen that "We came, we saw, he died" video. It's getting tiresome, come up with something new, something concrete. Trump somehow manages to provide us with fresh scandal and plenty of objective reasons to not have him in office, whereas with Clinton it's the same ol' shit.

One thing to keep in mind, however, is that Clinton was secretary of state during all this. Generally speaking, you blame the president for things like this because they happen on his or her watch. While she certainly had a hand in these things, so did many others, and only one person had final say.

Clinton is a shark, and I mean that in the best way possible. I see her kicking a lot of ass when she wins.

As i stated and shown like Obama she will be bowing to the Qataris and Saudis dictators you got owned here. You defended her and Obama's polices with a fail. At least life was better with Gaddafi as life was better in Yugoslavia and so forward look at the world America is no longer respected as it was once before. So again Hillary like Obama wont do anything differently expect bowing down.

The news media wants to lie that the world is prefect at the moment because of Obama's polices but the reality is. The World isn't.

Really?

Libya was far more economical stable than it is now, there were less deaths (there's a frealin civil war going on now) and almost every Libyan citizen was provided a living wage. They had a lower crime rate than the world's greatest nation, USAAAAA MERICA MOFOS! etc etc

I don't see how anyone buys media propaganda in the age of the internet and open research.

thing is, Clinton will be worse than Obama...Trump would be the worst

And what should we have done? Nothing and not address the humanitarian crisis at the time? Put boots on the ground, cost us untold sums of money and lives, installed a puppet government? Instead we provided them weapons and provided them air support. In the end, we left the future of Libya in their own hands. I mean, which scenario would be better? Doing nothing? Putting boots on the ground and being dragged into a costly war? At what point should we have done something differently? Sure, it's arguable that things were better under Gaddafi, but tell that to those that revolted against him. We responded to the situation that developed.

"And what should we have done? Nothing and not address the humanitarian crisis at the time?"

Under Muammar Gaddafi there was no humanitarian crisis NATO's/America's military intervention in Libya had caused the humanitarian crisis.

"but tell that to those that revolted against him."

Ah Yes you mean like fighters who had now left to the safety of the western countries? and the Gaddafi killer who is now living well off in some other western country not even caring whats happening in Libya? for your interest.

Khalifa Haftar

"Haftar held a senior position in the forces which overthrew Gaddafi in the 2011 Libyan Civil War. In 2014 he was commander of the Libyan Army when the General National Congress (GNC) refused to give up power in accordance with its term of office. Haftar launched a campaign against the GNC and its Islamic fundamentalist allies. His campaign allowed elections to take place to replace the GNC, but then developed into a civil war."

The GNC are the Islamic fundamentalist and their allies who rule Western Libya. Now the American gov wants to take out Khalifa Haftar as well and why? because he turned agaisnt GNC, the GNC is failing Libyans. And no the fighters doing any better.

"In the end, we left the future of Libya in their own hands. I mean, which scenario would be better? Doing nothing?"

Sometimes inaction is better then action because you never know the kind of pandora box's you might open. And as we had seen in Libya the Intervention in Libya resulted into a massive flow of migrants moving towards to Europe like a invasion.

Sometimes none interventionism is better if you don't meddle in affairs of countries that you dont know or pretend to know.

That fits perfectly with David David Icke - Problem-Reaction-Solution.

Our leaders first had armed those so called Libyan rebel groups, the protests in Egypt, Libya were all manufactured. After the protests in Egypt they gave the rise to the Muslim Brotherhood then the real protests started.

Have u seen the UK danging report?

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"But Britain's Foreign Affairs Committee found that the Cameron-led government "failed to identify that the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element."

The war, intervention was based on a lie.

And we are repeating the same BS on Syria. Then the media will continue to focus to target Iran. This isn't a conspiracy go read that report.

I'm not going to blame this one on Obama. The Arab spring had so much promise back then, and the American people generally favored

Intervention.

Gaddafi was also fucked up

"But Britain's Foreign Affairs Committee found that the Cameron-led government "failed to identify that the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element."

The Libyan Rebels were no Saints. The majority of the Rebels were Islamists.

"Gaddafi was also fucked up"

At least Libya was better under Gaddafi then with the crap they have now. America gov should accept more the migrants from Europe maybe around a million? after all Obama created the mess.

Yeah yeah the promise of what? Freedom? Democracy? lol don't be stupid. The Arab Spring gave power to the Muslim Brotherhood in all those countries that were protesting. Funny the so called Arab Spring missed Saudi Arabia and Qatar i wonder why? because they have democracy?

Ironic isn't it?

Just like the idiotic people generally favored going to war with Iraq based on Lies? and again in Libya? Americans are easily fooled by their stupid politicians who lie in their faces and then blame others for the mess that America creates.

Let me guess are Americans in favor going to war with Russia over Syria well?

Are you going to put your money where your mouth is?

@CommandoAgent:

Significant =/= majority.

And Obama didn't start the Libian civil war. At the time there was every expectation that the democracy that followed would have been able to hold up in some way.

Hindsight is 20/20. If you claim that you knew what would happen to Libya later at the time you're a blatant liar.

I'll give Obama shit for Syria, but giving the government shit for Libya is completely dumb

"And Obama didn't start the Libian civil war."

The protests were started by NGOs expats, the same ones as they started them in Syria those werent real protests if that was an real arab spring then the protests would had started in Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

"Hindsight is 20/20. If you claim that you knew what would happen to Libya later at the time you're a blatant liar."

I do know more about the conflict then someone who just said the following.

"The Arab spring had so much promise back then, and the American people generally favored

Intervention.

Gaddafi was also fucked up"

That alone just shows you know nothing about Syria nor Libya expect for what you had seen on the news. I have my sources, including a Libyan, the majority of Libyans don't trust Americans anymore.

America wanted libya because Gaddafi wanted to plan the gold dollar to compete with the American dollar. Gaddafi before his warned that migrants and chaos would happen should anything happen to Gaddafi.

@CommandoAgent:

My fucking phone won't let me do quotes.

Again, hindsight is 20/20. At the time there was practically 0 expectations that the Muslim brotherhood would hijack the resulting democracy AND that would itself lead to more strife with other groups like what happened in Egypt. If you claim you saw that shit coming you're still blatantly lying.

Also you're assuming too much that Iraq and Libya were based on lies. I don't even give bush shit for that anymore. There's no indication that either administrations did anything other than make

The best decisions that they could based on the information that they had, only working with what proved to be bad information later and without the benefit of hindsight.

The current gov in Libya Western Libya the GNC is Islamist i am not just talking about the Muslim brotherhood. Everyone who has being paying attention unlike you who watches CNN all day knows nothing but squat. The Libyan intervention in Libya has given a rise to many different radical Islamist groups. Most of them favored by the gulf states.

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I have more articles dating back from 2011 so yeah thats how i had being keeping track on the matter at hand.

On Syria.

The majority of the so called rebels "FSA" dont have any minority support from kurds, nor Christians there only support comes from Sunni Countries and Sunni towns, the majority of the groups are not moderates.

@CommandoAgent:

You're assuming too much. Why would an Arab spring HAVE to start in Saudi Arabia or Qatar? Maybe they're better at keeping a lid on it than Libya or Syria were. Why hasn't an uprising happened in North Korea?

I'm sure you have "your sources", who are just as vulnerable to the same hindsight trap that you are.

Good job linking to articles written AFTER THE FACT. agaiin,

Hindsight.

You knew no better than anyone else at the time, which is fine. America was naiive back then and that includes both of us. Pretending to above that is pointlessly dishonest.