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#1 crusher2002000
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Does anyone still like george bush after all of what has happened?

1. Went into a war claiming (weapons of mass destruction) and then changed his mind after the fact

2. Left people behind after hurricane katrina(some of the **** still isn't cleaned up)

3. US economny in massive amounts of debt (thanks for billion dollars spent on war a week)

4.Wiretapping, patriot act etc

5. After all the money spent looks like u guys r going to lose the iraq war( vietnam anyone? win every major battle but lose in the end)

6.Numerous firings or resigns from his administration

7. More hate ppl the us then before he was in power

After all of these who the hell still likes george w

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#2 Hey_Jay
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Unfortunately, some do. We call these people blind patriots.

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Some do...yes.

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maybe its me since im not from the us. but after all this **** is everyone allowing it. it seems more ppl talk about paris hilton or britney spears when i watch ur news then wut bush has done
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#5 Ragnarok1051
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I still support him yes. Some of the stuff he has done while in office I may not agree with, but I believe he was the right man more than Al Gore or John Kerry. Some of the stuff is blown up by the media, and some stuff, the war, can be blamed on congress. Running a nation such as the U.S isn't as easy as some senators like to believe.
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#6 Dutch_Mix
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I don't agree with everything he's done, but I think overall, he's done a decent job.
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maybe its me since im not from the us. but after all this **** is everyone allowing it. it seems more ppl talk about paris hilton or britney spears when i watch ur news then wut bush has donecrusher2002000
Unfortunately, the general public has little to do with what news is covered. Though our unhealthy addiction to vapid celebrities doesn't help much.
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#8 crusher2002000
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they would show it though it the ratings weren't there. if the ppl demanded the real news the companys would have to show it. To them its all about the $$$ not about which story is more important.They go where the $$$ is

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#9 NaiKoN9293
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Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.
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#10 FragStains
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Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.NaiKoN9293
If you like a candidate that continuously gives ambiguous answers to important questions...
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#11 crusher2002000
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[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.FragStains
If you like a candidate that continuously gives ambiguous answers to important questions...

thats all the politicians. there all full of **** once they r in power there not looking out for the public but the corporations that helped them get there

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Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.NaiKoN9293

I live in the U.S and I pray to God she is not the next president.

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[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.Ragnarok1051

I live in the U.S and I pray to God she is not the next president.

I guess you'd rather the next president invade Iran?

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#14 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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He's average. Just like the bulk of the rest of the Presidents in history.
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#15 diablo_human
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Isen't he trying to veto a free childs healthcare bill aswell? I saw something on digg..
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#16 Doomlike_Mitc
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I don't dislike him. I think he did some things good. Mostly I believe he is just doing whats right.
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#17 Putzwapputzen
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i dont, i hope there arent anyone who still does. the guy is retarded. i mean as a president, hes just embarrassing.
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#18 SemiMaster
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I don't disagree with many of his policies, but he himself is quite a moron, and that is the problem.

I can honestly identify with his conservative values for the most part, and even tolerate his indiscretions, but I can't identify with his level of stupidity, the guy is an idiot, and an idiot in power no matter what his political and moral beliefs are often end up bad.

So long(ish) story short, I never liked him.

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I don't disagree with many of his policies, but he himself is quite a moron, and that is the problem.

I can honestly identify with his conservative values for the most part, and even tolerate his indiscretions, but I can't identify with his level of stupidity, the guy is an idiot, and an idiot in power no matter what his political and moral beliefs are often end up bad.

So long(ish) story short, I never liked him.

SemiMaster

It's tricky with ol' GW, because I really think he's one of those people who, despite being rather intelligent, (let's not go overboard, he's hardly a genius or anything) always manages to say or do the wrong thing and make himself out as a dufus.

He's not the horrendously villainous President that some make him out to be, but I'd say he's slightly below half way down the list of Presidents; good to bad.

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#20 rudyroundhead
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Whether I like him or not is unfortunately irrelevant. There is nothing we can do but vote at the next election and hope the next President is much better. To answer the quesiton though, I think he is one of the worst Presidents we have ever had.
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#21 Mumbles527
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So, we went to war with faulty intelligence. Sure thats bad, but it wasn't Bush's sole decision. Hurricane Katrina is far from just Bush's problem. That was a complete government failure and putting the blame entirely on him is ridiculous. If you're really so ****ing paranoid that you actually care about the patriot act and think they're spying on you, you're either a terrorist or crazy. The people who would be using the Patriot Act to spy on people don't honestly give half a **** about your private lives, so get over it. The government may be in debt, but the stock market is actually doing pretty well lately. We aren't going to lose in Iraq, and who honestly cares what other people think of us? I may not agree with a lot of things he's done, but he is far from the worst president ever, and the Bush hating fad is just ridiculous.
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they would show it though it the ratings weren't there. if the ppl demanded the real news the companys would have to show it. To them its all about the $$$ not about which story is more important.They go where the $$$ is

crusher2002000

Unfortunatley,how things work over therein the US (and pretty much everywhere) is they'll go with the thing that earns them the most $ even if it's like.........a horrible thing.

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So, we went to war with faulty intelligence. Sure thats bad, but it wasn't Bush's sole decision. Hurricane Katrina is far from just Bush's problem. That was a complete government failure and putting the blame entirely on him is ridiculous. If you're really so ****ing paranoid that you actually care about the patriot act and think they're spying on you, you're either a terrorist or crazy. The people who would be using the Patriot Act to spy on people don't honestly give half a **** about your private lives, so get over it. The government may be in debt, but the stock market is actually doing pretty well lately. We aren't going to lose in Iraq, and who honestly cares what other people think of us? I may not agree with a lot of things he's done, but he is far from the worst president ever, and the Bush hating fad is just ridiculous.Mumbles527

just picturing ol' George saying that makes me giggle.

i loved that movie.

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#24 greeneye59
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Like him about as much as Bill Clinton. Which is to say I don't like or hate him.
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Like him about as much as Bill Clinton. Which is to say I don't like or hate him.greeneye59

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#26 Two400
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His parents love him!!
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#27 Bourbons3
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Some people do, unfortunately.
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#28 mandosu
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The problem isn't just Bush. He is the frontman of the administration and nothing else. People should be fighting against the policies of the US government,not Bush...
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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]

I don't disagree with many of his policies, but he himself is quite a moron, and that is the problem.

I can honestly identify with his conservative values for the most part, and even tolerate his indiscretions, but I can't identify with his level of stupidity, the guy is an idiot, and an idiot in power no matter what his political and moral beliefs are often end up bad.

So long(ish) story short, I never liked him.

3KindgomsRandy

It's tricky with ol' GW, because I really think he's one of those people who, despite being rather intelligent, (let's not go overboard, he's hardly a genius or anything) always manages to say or do the wrong thing and make himself out as a dufus.

He's not the horrendously villainous President that some make him out to be, but I'd say he's slightly below half way down the list of Presidents; good to bad.

What ho good Sir! We meet again!

I mean I don't personally view him as evil. Like I said I don't disagree with his policies. I disagree with his intelligence. And I believe Dick Cheney is evil incarnate, but way smarter than Bush.

You seriously think Bush graduated from Andover Academy and then Yale due to his intellect?

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[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]So, we went to war with faulty intelligence. Sure thats bad, but it wasn't Bush's sole decision. Hurricane Katrina is far from just Bush's problem. That was a complete government failure and putting the blame entirely on him is ridiculous. If you're really so ****ing paranoid that you actually care about the patriot act and think they're spying on you, you're either a terrorist or crazy. The people who would be using the Patriot Act to spy on people don't honestly give half a **** about your private lives, so get over it. The government may be in debt, but the stock market is actually doing pretty well lately. We aren't going to lose in Iraq, and who honestly cares what other people think of us? I may not agree with a lot of things he's done, but he is far from the worst president ever, and the Bush hating fad is just ridiculous.Joshywaa

just picturing ol' George saying that makes me giggle.

i loved that movie.

Dr. Strangelove ruled.

And yes, some people do still like him. They are however, a very rare magical race that has not been seen for quite some time.

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The problem isn't just Bush. He is the frontman of the administration and nothing else. People should be fighting against the policies of the US government,not Bush...mandosu

Hello....it's his policies....he gets his people on board.

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#32 jrhawk42
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it doesn't surprise me some people still like hitler Heck I think hitler might even have a higher approval rating.
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#33 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]Even though I don't live in the US I sincerely hope for the sake of the US population that Hillary Clinton is the next president of the US.NaiKoN9293

I live in the U.S and I pray to God she is not the next president.

I guess you'd rather the next president invade Iran?

What makes you think she won't? Oh because she said so in one of her campaign speeches? Please, Iran will have to be dealt with whether we like it or not. They are too dangerous to be left alone.

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[QUOTE="mandosu"]The problem isn't just Bush. He is the frontman of the administration and nothing else. People should be fighting against the policies of the US government,not Bush...LJS9502_basic

Hello....it's his policies....he gets his people on board.

He's a figurehead, he's just representing people essentially. How did he get re-elected? Why has congress not stopped him? Its plainly obvious that most americans aren't against what bush is doing,

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#35 Shiggums
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Does anyone still like george bush after all of what has happened?

1. Went into a war claiming (weapons of mass destruction) and then changed his mind after the fact

2. Left people behind after hurricane katrina(some of the **** still isn't cleaned up)

3. US economny in massive amounts of debt (thanks for billion dollars spent on war a week)

4.Wiretapping, patriot act etc

5. After all the money spent looks like u guys r going to lose the iraq war( vietnam anyone? win every major battle but lose in the end)

6.Numerous firings or resigns from his administration

7. More hate ppl the us then before he was in power

After all of these who the hell still likes george w

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A lot of people seem to think that Bush is the one who left people behind in New Orleans. Was he supposed to go there and gather as many as would fit on Air Force 1? He also isn't in control of the nation's funds, and I don't see what's so bad about having many firings/resignations. That wouldn't make me hate him. I don't like him or hate him. I just wanted to point out a couple of flaws, things that bugged me :P

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mandosu"]The problem isn't just Bush. He is the frontman of the administration and nothing else. People should be fighting against the policies of the US government,not Bush...Luminouslight

Hello....it's his policies....he gets his people on board.

He's a figurehead, he's just representing people essentially. How did he get re-elected? Why has congress not stopped him? Its plainly obvious that most americans aren't against what bush is doing,

No...the president is NOT a figurehead.

His approval rating says otherwise.

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#37 Brainkiller05
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That George Bush fellow seems like a nice guy.
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#38 mohan88
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Some do...yes.

LJS9502_basic
I like bush, but him as a president HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mandosu"]The problem isn't just Bush. He is the frontman of the administration and nothing else. People should be fighting against the policies of the US government,not Bush...LJS9502_basic

Hello....it's his policies....he gets his people on board.

He's a figurehead, he's just representing people essentially. How did he get re-elected? Why has congress not stopped him? Its plainly obvious that most americans aren't against what bush is doing,

No...the president is NOT a figurehead.

Congress allowed him to go to war, but you don't see people asking for their resignation.

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#40 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Congress allowed him to go to war, but you don't see people asking for their resignation.

Ragnarok1051

One...that's what the vote is for.

Two...they were given bad information from the adminstration.

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[QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]

I don't disagree with many of his policies, but he himself is quite a moron, and that is the problem.

I can honestly identify with his conservative values for the most part, and even tolerate his indiscretions, but I can't identify with his level of stupidity, the guy is an idiot, and an idiot in power no matter what his political and moral beliefs are often end up bad.

So long(ish) story short, I never liked him.

SemiMaster

It's tricky with ol' GW, because I really think he's one of those people who, despite being rather intelligent, (let's not go overboard, he's hardly a genius or anything) always manages to say or do the wrong thing and make himself out as a dufus.

He's not the horrendously villainous President that some make him out to be, but I'd say he's slightly below half way down the list of Presidents; good to bad.

What ho good Sir! We meet again!

I mean I don't personally view him as evil. Like I said I don't disagree with his policies. I disagree with his intelligence. And I believe Dick Cheney is evil incarnate, but way smarter than Bush.

You seriously think Bush graduated from Andover Academy and then Yale due to his intellect?

You'll get no arguement from me on Cheney. He's always made me uncomfortable.

As for his graduating from Andover and Yale....*sigh*....I guess not. I just like to try to give Presidents the benefit of the doubt.

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#42 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Congress allowed him to go to war, but you don't see people asking for their resignation.

LJS9502_basic

One...that's what the vote is for.

Two...they were given bad information from the adminstration.

What I'm saying is it's easier to blame 1 man then it is to blame over 500.

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What I'm saying is it's easier to blame 1 man then it is to blame over 500.

Ragnarok1051

That makes no sense. If they were given false information and acted in good faith...it's NOT their fault.

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#44 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

What I'm saying is it's easier to blame 1 man then it is to blame over 500.

LJS9502_basic

That makes no sense. If they were given false information and acted in good faith...it's NOT their fault.

We all had bad information. But I think we did the right thing, we just need to pull everything back together.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

What I'm saying is it's easier to blame 1 man then it is to blame over 500.

Ragnarok1051

That makes no sense. If they were given false information and acted in good faith...it's NOT their fault.

We all had bad information. But I think we did the right thing, we just need to pull everything back together.

I disagree....

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

What I'm saying is it's easier to blame 1 man then it is to blame over 500.

LJS9502_basic

That makes no sense. If they were given false information and acted in good faith...it's NOT their fault.

We all had bad information. But I think we did the right thing, we just need to pull everything back together.

I disagree....

At least tell me why. It's been a while since I debated the war.

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At least tell me why. It's been a while since I debated the war.

Ragnarok1051

For what reasondid the US enter the war?...what do you consider a "good" reason?

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#48 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

At least tell me why. It's been a while since I debated the war.

LJS9502_basic

There was no reason for the US to enter the war...what do you consider a "good" reason?

Whether we like it or not, Saddam needed taken care of. He was a dangerous character in the Middle East.

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#49 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Whether we like it or not, Saddam needed taken care of. He was a dangerous character in the Middle East.

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He wasn't threatening us nor any allies. There are many more dangerous characters in the world....yet we do nothing. That wasn't our fight.

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#50 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Whether we like it or not, Saddam needed taken care of. He was a dangerous character in the Middle East.

LJS9502_basic

He wasn't threatening us nor any allies. There are many more dangerous characters in the world....yet we do nothing. That wasn't our fight.

Which goes back to the bad intelligence that we recieved. We were led to believe that he was indeed a active dangerous character who was funding terrorist. To be honest I think he should have been dealt with in the first Gulf War.