Are Americans Too Nationalistic?

Hello Gamespot. Now I don't mean to typecast all Americans but a real vibe that I have picked up is that Americans subconciousilly seem to think that they should always be on top. With EU countries as well as Canada showing that America isn't the only first world country with both a high standard of living and personal freedoms Americans need to stop acting like America is some shining oasis in a desert full of facism. Its not the only "free" country anymore nor does it have the most "freedom"

I've also noticed that Americans get realy threatened by another country surpasing them in terms of production and economical health. With the Euro surpassing the American dollar alot of Americans seemed to sweat. Most however didn't even notice and went straight back to watching reality TV.

I think its a good thing that the European Unions dollar has surpassed ours. It will give us incintive to get our act back together. Competettion is good but the age of America being the top dog may not be over but we do have compitition now which i welcome. It can get lonely being one of the few superpowers.

I don't mean to be contraversial but it does seem like Americans get really threatened when their percieved "supremecy" is equaled by another country or union. This is a good thing though because it sends the message that we need to stop sending all our jobs overseas.

Yes.

GTA's in-game radio seems to be dangerously close to the truth regarding nationalistic Americans.

nope, we rule. End of story.fat_rob

No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.remmbermytitans

Side by side and arm in arm isn't a good thing if its out of fear. the post 9/11 fallout was pure hell.

Nationalism is pretty irrational. Countries are pretty abstract to love so much. Also, nationalism (or patriotism) is praised too much. "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists" is also a horribly arrogant thing to say. Besides, what's there to be proud of? The fact that american corporations colonized pretty much the whole world now? The biggest military in the world? American dream? I don't really think it's things to be proud of coming from a european perspective.

That isn't saying people shouldn't have any liking to their country. Just don't live with the illusion that it's the best nation ever.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.peppersfan2

Side by side and arm in arm isn't a good thing if its out of fear. the post 9/11 fallout was pure hell.

No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.remmbermytitans

and give people opporunity to be more controlling and take our rights away.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.peppersfan2

Side by side and arm in arm isn't a good thing if its out of fear. the post 9/11 fallout was pure hell.

Edit: I meant remmbermytitans. Peppers fan had the right idea. By the way, the documentary also illustrates how this neoconservatism stems from the same philosophy as islamic fundamentalism.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.peppersfan2

Side by side and arm in arm isn't a good thing if its out of fear. the post 9/11 fallout was pure hell.

by creating the poll like you did you are asking for sweeping generalizations.Guybrush_3

True true. But i really meant an overiding feeling in this nation rather than a sterotype of all americans. There is a subconcious superiority complex in many americans i've discovered.

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[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.11Marcel

Side by side and arm in arm isn't a good thing if its out of fear. the post 9/11 fallout was pure hell.

Edit: I meant remmbermytitans. Peppers fan had the right idea. By the way, the documentary also illustrates how this neoconservatism stems from the same philosophy as islamic fundamentalism.

I understand. If you want americans holding hands give them something to hold hands for instead of scaring the everloving hell out of them. Mob mentality and group think does not mean positive unity. Haven't you seen the previews for Resident Evil 5?

Europeans who generalize Americans as inbreds who drink budweiser until they fall out of the bleachers at a NasCar event.effthat

What citizen wouldn't want their country to be the top in the world? If my country is getting passed by in the realm of science and mathematics it means that the country isn't as good as it could be and therefore my quality of life, while good, wouldn't be as good as it could be. By maintaining nationalism you create a drive to better a standard of living and technological development.hokies1313

Every Country should have good self esteem and pride but theire is a difference between self esteem and narccasistic arrogence. If your the top kid at the science fair and someone else is building a better project you don't freak and get really threatned you attempt to build a better project next year.

[QUOTE="effthat"]Europeans who generalize Americans as inbreds who drink budweiser until they fall out of the bleachers at a NasCar event.remmbermytitans

A better title would have been are Americans AND Europeans too nationalistic.

well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. Elraptor

What citizen wouldn't want their country to be the top in the world? If my country is getting passed by in the realm of science and mathematics it means that the country isn't as good as it could be and therefore my quality of life, while good, wouldn't be as good as it could be. By maintaining nationalism you create a drive to better a standard of living and technological development.hokies1313

No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.remmbermytitans

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="effthat"]Europeans who generalize Americans as inbreds who drink budweiser until they fall out of the bleachers at a NasCar event.peppersfan2

A better title would have been are Americans AND Europeans too nationalistic.

Hello Gamespot. Now I don't mean to typecast all Americans but a real vibe that I have picked up is that Americans subconciousilly seem to think that they should always be on top. With EU countries as well as Canada showing that America isn't the only first world country with both a high standard of living and personal freedoms Americans need to stop acting like America is some shining oasis in a desert full of facism. Its not the only "free" country anymore nor does it have the most "freedom"

I've also noticed that Americans get realy threatened by another country surpasing them in terms of production and economical health. With the Euro surpassing the American dollar alot of Americans seemed to sweat. Most however didn't even notice and went straight back to watching reality TV.

I think its a good thing that the European Unions dollar has surpassed ours. It will give us incintive to get our act back together. Competettion is good but the age of America being the top dog may not be over but we do have compitition now which i welcome. It can get lonely being one of the few superpowers.

I don't mean to be contraversial but it does seem like Americans get really threatened when their percieved "supremecy" is equaled by another country or union. This is a good thing though because it sends the message that we need to stop sending all our jobs overseas.

peppersfan2

Interesting perspective, but your reality seems a bit squewed. Most Americans could give two squats about the things you posted, and the ones that do, are part of the problem. The people you describe are called Wall Street Morons-i.e. the idiots that trashed this country and sank our standard of living back to the 19th century.

The things you outline have a very singular view of the world, and Americans. All Americans want is the same thing everyone else in the world wants. That being an education, healthcare, a job with a decent wage and some money left in your pocket when it's all said and done. Movies like the International outline the real problems with the world economy. Our money.. the worlds money, is in the hands of a very few with too mutch influance and power.

I'm trying to say, read about world history. The Dutch,Spanish, English and Americans our,or were, at one time Economic and world leaders, and there are allot of common factors as to why they are not, or won't be in the future. I'm not going to outline it for you, that you have to do yourself, with time and years spent living and observing the things and world around you. After that, then ask the same question, I gaurantee it will be different.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.sSubZerOo

What citizen wouldn't want their country to be the top in the world? If my country is getting passed by in the realm of science and mathematics it means that the country isn't as good as it could be and therefore my quality of life, while good, wouldn't be as good as it could be.

By maintaining nationalism you create a drive to better a standard of living and technological development.hokies1313

Wanting to improve one's own country is patriotism, not nationalism. The way I tend to differentiate between the two is as follows: patriotism is what you do to your country, whereas nationalism is what you do to citizens of other countries. You don't need to be an arrogant jerk to the rest of the world in order to love your country.

No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.remmbermytitans

The only way an entire country can be united is if they have a big scary enemy who's scaring them out of their wits. I don't know about you, but I prefer dissonance to unity borne from the feeling of "holy **** we're all gonna die".

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[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"] Is that what they think about us over there? Pfft. Nascar isn't even our top sport! Though, now that I think about it, we think European women are really good looking, do they think that American women are good looking too? Or do they think we're all fat, drunk inbreds? markop2003

A better title would have been are Americans AND Europeans too nationalistic.

I don't mean to be contraversial but it does seem like Americans get really threatened when their percieved "supremecy" is equaled by another country or union. This is a good thing though because it sends the message that we need to stop sending all our jobs overseas.

peppersfan2

First, there is nothing wrong with hiring overseas as long as you are getting your monies worth long-term. From what I hear Dell hired a bunch of people overseas that didn't know what they were doing for customer service. If you decide to become an inferior customer service organization then you deserve what you get. But if you are getting better employees or better bang for your buck in long-term real value to your business then all the power to you. Why discriminate? People are people wherever they live and should be hired equally.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]No. We're not nearly nationalistic enough. After 9/11 this country joined together, arm-in-arm, and side-by-side. Now, we're really divided, and our economy is really in trouble. We need to get that post 9/11 unity back together and fast.remmbermytitans

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. 11Marcel

Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="Elraptor"]well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. GhostOfKosh1

Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) Most easily noticed will be the slower recovery on the way back up. However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.

[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="Elraptor"]well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. GhostOfKosh1

Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.

Please define what your definiton of Global Coperation is? I think I know what your saying, and your right in some respects, but if you mean trade, then I've got to disagree. Most WTO deals aren't made with any country or people in mind, they are made with money and influence in mind. That is the meaning of a multinational corperation; or.. he who has the most toys wins. i know a bit simple, but I don't feel like going in depth.