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#1 BuryMe
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I've never understood the world's obsession with "classics" of any perticular industry. Every time I read, watch or listen to something because it's deemed a classic, I find that more often than not, I don't like it.

Looking back at book I've read, I had to read some Shakespeare in high school and I though every play I read sucked (Hamlet, Macbeth and Romet and Juliet.) Then more recently, I read 1984, and that didn't do anything for me either. Animal Farm was OK, but still not worthy of its hype.

In movies, I've never seen any Star Wars movies, Jaws, Jurrassic Park, Scarface, or The Godfather (to name a few.)They just don't appeal to me. And people at work are stunned. I tried watching Pulp Fiction, but I fell asleep halfway through because I was bored.

So with this, I've spent years wondering, are things that are regarded as classics perceived well by so many people because they just want to conform to the popuar oppinion that they are good, or am I just really weird for not liking any of these supposed "masterpieces"?

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#2 DharmaMember77
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You just have bad taste.

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#3 Melkari
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Say what you want about everything else, but not seeing Jurassic Park is a criminal offense. Good day sir.

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#4 Pirate700
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Classics are looked well upon because they're classics for a reason.

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Looking back at book I've read, I had to read some Shakespeare in high school and I though every play I read sucked (Hamlet, Macbeth and Romet and Juliet.) Then more recently, I read 1984, and that didn't do anything for me either. Animal Farm was OK, but still not worthy of its hype.

In movies, I've never seen any Star Wars movies, Jaws, Jurrassic Park, Scarface, or The Godfather (to name a few.)They just don't appeal to me. And people at work are stunned. I tried watching Pulp Fiction, but I fell asleep halfway through because I was bored.

So with this, I've spent years wondering, are things that are regarded as ****cs perceived well by so many people because they just want to conform to the popuar oppinion that they are good, or am I just really weird for not liking any of these supposed "masterpieces"?

BuryMe

No. They're looked upon so well because they're good. If you dislike them, you're the exception, not the rule: don't try to make it look otherwise just to 'fit in'.

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Not everyone has the same opinions of the same things. Everything you like, I may not care for and vice-versa. Everyone is different. Mainly, those 'classics' are good for the impact they made at their release, not for what they can be compared to currently. "Classic" goes along with "Nostalgia" as just a best-guess description of positive feelings towards something released years ago, and people who were amazed then still have fond memories that keep them recommending and enjoying those same things.
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You're a special snowflake.......
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I think it's just the generation who were introduced to them then pass them down to future generations. I mean, I was introduced to Star Wars: The Original Series through my friends who were introduced to by their parents. In fact, I think if I had a kid of my own, I would immediately introduce them to Batman: The Animated Series and other "classic" shows that I've loved since I was a kid.

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#10 BossPerson
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Most things that are considered classics are pretty good. They are deemed classics for a reason.

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#11 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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lol this thread is dumb as f*ck.

Stick to video games, they're probably better suited for you.

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I like most classic things because I like them, not because I am expected to like them. Also,

Say what you want about everything else, but not seeing Jurassic Park is a criminal offense. Good day sir.

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I think movies are simply called classics when they are well liked by fans and critics or the movie did something very innovative.

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or am I just really weird for not liking any of these supposed "masterpieces"?

BuryMe

If this is the poll option that means "classics are good, you are wrong," then this. If you're falling asleep at Pulp Fiction, you should do something about that attention span.

It's one thing to take issue with a movie/book if you have legitimate criticism, but not living up to the hype is not a real answer.

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#15 BuryMe
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lol this thread is dumb as f*ck.

Stick to video games, they're probably better suited for you.

Aljosa23

I'd also be happy to list classic video games I can't stand.

I'm not saying every one has to love them, I'm just asking if any one thinks that even part of the reason they're perceived the way they are is because people like to bpwn to popular oppinion at least sometimes.

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]or am I just really weird for not liking any of these supposed "masterpieces"?

Sharpie125

If this is the poll option that means "classics are good, you are wrong," then this. If you're falling asleep at Pulp Fiction, you should do something about that attention span.

It's one thing to take issue with a movie/book if you have legitimate criticism, but not living up to the hype is not a real answer.

My attention span is fine... the movie was boring.

I guess I should clarify. I didn't literally fall asleep, I just got so bored with it that I turned it off and went on to something more entertaining.

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I tried watching Pulp Fiction, but I fell asleep halfway through because I was bored.

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#18 biggest_loser
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You just have bad taste.

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This. You seem to dislike something based on its hype. Who cares whether Animal Farm is popular? Think about what its saying and how well it says it. A genuine satire.
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#19 David719
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Most classics are remembered fondly because they're good. They wouldn't be classics in the first place if they weren't.

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I'd also be happy to list classic video games I can't stand.

I'm not saying every one has to love them, I'm just asking if any one thinks that even part of the reason they're perceived the way they are is because people like to bpwn to popular oppinion at least sometimes.

BuryMe

I'm sure some people feel that way but clearly you thought the majority did or you wouldn't have made this thread. I think it's dumb to generalize stuff like this because of how different everyone is. Contrary to popular belief not all humans listen to some sort of perceived hivemind.

You just have bad taste. I stopped reading the OP after you listed all those Shakespeare plays.

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#21 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

You just have bad taste.

biggest_loser

This. You seem to dislike something based on its hype. Who cares whether Animal Farm is popular? Think about what its saying and how well it says it. A genuine satire.

Hype doesn't determine weather or not I like something. How much I njoyed it determines how much I like something.

And I wasn't a huge fan of it, but Animal farm wasn't too bad.

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Sounds like you want to feel special.

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

I'd also be happy to list classic video games I can't stand.

I'm not saying every one has to love them, I'm just asking if any one thinks that even part of the reason they're perceived the way they are is because people like to bpwn to popular oppinion at least sometimes.

Aljosa23

I'm sure some people feel that way but clearly you thought the majority did or you wouldn't have made this thread. I think it's dumb to generalize stuff like this because of how different everyone is. Contrary to popular belief not all humans listen to some sort of perceived hivemind.

You just have bad taste. I stopped reading the OP after you listed all those Shakespeare plays.

Actually, I didn't think most people have to same oppinion... I didn't even know what people would think. I just wanted to hear oppinions.

But to say with certainty that I have bad taste must mean that there is some objective standard by which you can measure the quality of a piece of art. So I'd love to see this model you seem to use.

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[QUOTE="Sharpie125"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]or am I just really weird for not liking any of these supposed "masterpieces"?

BuryMe

If this is the poll option that means "classics are good, you are wrong," then this. If you're falling asleep at Pulp Fiction, you should do something about that attention span.

It's one thing to take issue with a movie/book if you have legitimate criticism, but not living up to the hype is not a real answer.

My attention span is fine... the movie was boring.

I guess I should clarify. I didn't literally fall asleep, I just got so bored with it that I turned it off and went on to something more entertaining.

Well then, like I said. Attention span. To say otherwise is complete denial. I would attempt to list other great dialogue-heavy movies you could never sit through, but you wouldn't have seen them anyway. Funny, that.

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You prolly just don't like em cause they're popular. ;p
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

You just have bad taste.

BuryMe

This. You seem to dislike something based on its hype. Who cares whether Animal Farm is popular? Think about what its saying and how well it says it. A genuine satire.

Hype doesn't determine weather or not I like something. How much I njoyed it determines how much I like something.

And I wasn't a huge fan of it, but Animal farm wasn't too bad.

Did you give any thought to the meaning behind these books other than "this didn't entertain me therefore it must be bad"

Also if you were bored with Pulp Fiction then there's no hope in you enjoying anything with substance.

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Sharpie125"]

If this is the poll option that means "classics are good, you are wrong," then this. If you're falling asleep at Pulp Fiction, you should do something about that attention span.

It's one thing to take issue with a movie/book if you have legitimate criticism, but not living up to the hype is not a real answer.

Sharpie125

My attention span is fine... the movie was boring.

I guess I should clarify. I didn't literally fall asleep, I just got so bored with it that I turned it off and went on to something more entertaining.

Well then, like I said. Attention span. To say otherwise is complete denial. I would attempt to list other great dialogue-heavy movies you could never sit through, but you wouldn't have seen them anyway. Funny, that.

Being bored =/= short attention spand.

Not wanting to sit through a movie I found boring =/= short attention span.

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So TC what forms of media do you enjoy then since you don't enjoy the classics

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Actually, I didn't think most people have to same oppinion... I didn't even know what people would think. I just wanted to hear oppinions.

But to say with certainty that I have bad taste must mean that there is some objective standard by which you can measure the quality of a piece of art. So I'd love to see this model you seem to use.

BuryMe

Well, in my subjective opinion you have bad taste.

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How bout the bad classics like Horrors Of Spider Island or Blood Waters of Dr Z?
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] This. You seem to dislike something based on its hype. Who cares whether Animal Farm is popular? Think about what its saying and how well it says it. A genuine satire. DharmaMember77

Hype doesn't determine weather or not I like something. How much I njoyed it determines how much I like something.

And I wasn't a huge fan of it, but Animal farm wasn't too bad.

Did you give any thought to the meaning behind these books other than "this didn't entertain me therefore it must be bad"

Also if you were bored with Pulp Fiction then there's no hope in you enjoying anything with substance.

When did I ever say they were bad?

Over rated, sure, IMO, sure, but not bad.

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#32 BuryMe
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So TC what forms of media do you enjoy then since you don't enjoy the classics

DharmaMember77

I like books, movies, TV, music and video games. I just didn't like the titles I mentioned. (or haven't seen them due to lack of interest.)

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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]Hype doesn't determine weather or not I like something. How much I njoyed it determines how much I like something.

And I wasn't a huge fan of it, but Animal farm wasn't too bad.

BuryMe

Did you give any thought to the meaning behind these books other than "this didn't entertain me therefore it must be bad"

Also if you were bored with Pulp Fiction then there's no hope in you enjoying anything with substance.

When did I ever say they were bad?

Over rated, sure, IMO, sure, but not bad.

You said you thought Shakespeare sucked in your OP......
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It's ok man, you just have bad taste.

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#36 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Did you give any thought to the meaning behind these books other than "this didn't entertain me therefore it must be bad"

Also if you were bored with Pulp Fiction then there's no hope in you enjoying anything with substance.

Mafiree

When did I ever say they were bad?

Over rated, sure, IMO, sure, but not bad.

You said you thought Shakespeare sucked in your OP......

Yes... The plots were boring.

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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

So TC what forms of media do you enjoy then since you don't enjoy the classics

BuryMe

I like books, movies, TV, music and video games. I just didn't like the titles I mentioned. (or haven't seen them due to lack of interest.)

Then what titles do you enjoy....

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]When did I ever say they were bad?

Over rated, sure, IMO, sure, but not bad.

BuryMe

You said you thought Shakespeare sucked in your OP......

Yes... The plots were boring.

........ Then why did you ask the question "When did I ever say they were bad?"
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#39 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

So TC what forms of media do you enjoy then since you don't enjoy the classics

DharmaMember77

I like books, movies, TV, music and video games. I just didn't like the titles I mentioned. (or haven't seen them due to lack of interest.)

Then what titles do you enjoy....

Off the top of my head, my favourite books were Dracula, Let The Right One In, and Lord Of The Flies.

Movies, I generally perfer comedies, and I generally like the James Bond movies. If it's about a subject I find interesting, I also like documentaries.

Just to name a few.

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Mafiree"] You said you thought Shakespeare sucked in your OP......Mafiree

Yes... The plots were boring.

........ Then why did you ask the question "When did I ever say they were bad?"

Fair point.

IMO, the plots were boring.

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#41 Sharpie125
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Being bored =/= short attention spand.

Not wanting to sit through a movie I found boring =/= short attention span.

BuryMe

What do you think being bored means?

You can't pay attention to a movie because it's boring. It's boring, because you can't pay attention long enough to follow what's going on in the movie. The plot is awesome in Pulp Fiction, and boring is something it definitely is not. I could understand you falling asleep watching a Terrence Malick film, though let's not entertain the idea that you could attempt one.

If something actiony needs to happen in every frame for it to be "entertaining", then yes, you do have a short attention span to be bored this easily.

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#42 DJ-Lafleur
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It sure is pretentious in here.

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"Boring" isn't a critique. OP proves he has no idea what he's talking about.

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#44 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Being bored =/= short attention spand.

Not wanting to sit through a movie I found boring =/= short attention span.

Sharpie125

What do you think being bored means?

You can't pay attention to a movie because it's boring. It's boring, because you can't pay attention long enough to follow what's going on in the movie. The plot is awesome in Pulp Fiction, and boring is something it definitely is not. I could understand you falling asleep watching a Terrence Malick film, though let's not entertain the idea that you could attempt one.

If something actiony needs to happen in every frame for it to be "entertaining", then yes, you do have a short attention span to be bored this easily.

I had no problem following what was happening. I just didn't want to waste any more time on something I didn't find enjoyable.

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#45 BuryMe
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"Boring" isn't a critique. OP proves he has no idea what he's talking about.

Aljosa23

So then what would be a ligitimate reason to dislike a movie or book?

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

"Boring" isn't a critique. OP proves he has no idea what he's talking about.

BuryMe

So then what would be a ligitimate reason to dislike a movie or book?

I'd prefer if you elaborated why it's "boring". Calling something "boring" and ending it there just makes me dismiss everything you say.

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#47 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

"Boring" isn't a critique. OP proves he has no idea what he's talking about.

Aljosa23

So then what would be a ligitimate reason to dislike a movie or book?

I'd prefer if you elaborated why it's "boring". Calling something "boring" and ending it there just makes me dismiss everything you say.

Ok... I didn't find the subject matter to be of any interest in the examples I mentioned.

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I believe they become 'classic' because they feature 'universal' themes - lust, greed, envy, redemption, etc. - that are relevant to a large percentage of humanity (regardless of the culture or the era in which the works were produced or the times in which they are being read or experienced), because they were considered groundbreaking creative developments at the time of their production, or because they somehow managed to capture the essence of a particular period in a culture's history.
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#49 DharmaMember77
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I'm still having a tough time wondering how anyone can find Pulp Fiction boring. You're really going to need to elaborate on this one.

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#50 DJ-Lafleur
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While there are classics in each industry of which I do not like/I find overrated, I'm not going to assume that people only like it to fit in or whatever.