Are plasmids (bioshock) possible ?

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#1 R3Miix
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We all want super powers or want to be extraordinary but is a genetic modifiying formula possible ? Bioshock has needle things that you can inject yourself with to be extraordinary and in heroes has a formula that can give people super powers but will scientests discover or create something that can make our dreams come true ?

I hope so !

Your opinions ?

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Anything is Possible.

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steroids..... i don't think this will come true for a long time. kind of like how people thought the year 2000 there would be flying ships already. i could see maybe the year 3000 if everything stays this way.
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Injectable super powers? That's absurd. Everyone knows you have to be trained in the ways of the Jedi, or roll around in some radioactive waste.
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[QUOTE="R3Miix"]

We all want super powers or want to be extraordinary but is a genetic modifiying formula possible ? Bioshock has needle things that you can inject yourself with to be extraordinary and in heroes has a formula that can give people super powers but will scientests discover or create something that can make our dreams come true ?

I hope so !

Your opinions ?

It would take years of research, testing, funding etc., it could be possible but not in our lifetime.
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DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

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I've learned to never say anything related to science is impossible, but most likely not in our life time.
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We all want super powers or want to be extraordinary but is a genetic modifiying formula possible ? Bioshock has needle things that you can inject yourself with to be extraordinary and in heroes has a formula that can give people super powers but will scientests discover or create something that can make our dreams come true ?

I hope so !

Your opinions ?

R3Miix
I could see something like that.....but remember the after effects? Everyone took too many and became crazy and unstoppable, killing EVERYONE. Lets stick to the old fashioned pumping iron and jogging thing here.
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I've learned to never say anything related to science is impossible, but most likely not in our life time.Big_player

I would agree with you about life time if one was in their 60's and older, but the way technology continues to exponentially advance I wouldn't be surprised if such a tech becomes available for testing within 20-30 years.

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Hmmm, how much energy would you have to metabolize to create a massive electrical arc or to create a jet of flame from your hands? A lot, I'm thinking.
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#11 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Big_player"]I've learned to never say anything related to science is impossible, but most likely not in our life time.Buck_Hotep

I would agree with you about life time if one was in their 60's and older, but the way technology continues to exponentially advance I wouldn't be surprised if such a tech becomes available for testing within 20-30 years.

I would!
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I mean scientists during the 80's said that a computer could never have the computing power to beat a chessmaster in chess yet it happened. As long as the military thinks there's some military application for a way out there idea like plasmids they will fund it to see if it's even remotely possible. The research alone will probably bring about new technology that people never thought to research and develop.

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with time, anything is possible, hey the cavemen though it was impossible to fly and look at us now!
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I mean scientists during the 80's said that a computer could never have the computing power to beat a chessmaster in chess yet it happened. As long as the military thinks there's some military application for a way out there idea like plasmids they will fund it to see if it's even remotely possible. The research alone will probably bring about new technology that people never thought to research and develop.

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What scientists said that? :)
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I mean scientists during the 80's said that a computer could never have the computing power to beat a chessmaster in chess yet it happened. As long as the military thinks there's some military application for a way out there idea like plasmids they will fund it to see if it's even remotely possible. The research alone will probably bring about new technology that people never thought to research and develop.

Buck_Hotep

Lasers?

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DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

Buck_Hotep

Have fun giving it to a corrupted soldier.

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#17 II_Seraphim_II
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No, I dont think they will ever be possible. The amount of things that would need to occur to make them possible are pretty intense? Imagine the ice ability. You would need a new organ or gland or something that can cause the body drain all the heat from an object almost instantly. Most things are based off of nature. How many creatures do you know that can create ice or breathe fire? I don't think we'll ever pull it off.
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

I mean scientists during the 80's said that a computer could never have the computing power to beat a chessmaster in chess yet it happened. As long as the military thinks there's some military application for a way out there idea like plasmids they will fund it to see if it's even remotely possible. The research alone will probably bring about new technology that people never thought to research and develop.

xaos

What scientists said that? :)

Well, a famous example of a scientist not thinking outside the box when it comes to tech advancement is Hubert Dreyfus from UC-Berkeley. In 1967 he famously predicted that no computer can ever beat him in chess. Soon after he did get beat by a computer at chess so he adjusted his prediction in 1972 and said no computer can beat a skilled and nationally ranked chess player. Again, his prediction was shot down soon after when a computer did just that. He adjusted his prediction once more in 1992 when he predicted that no computer can ever beat the best chess player in the world. Then in 1997 IBM's Depp Blue did just that by beating Garry Kasparov.

With the current crop of scientists and researchers having grown up on science-fiction such as Terminator, Star Wars and the latest Trek, not to mention on video games, they're much more open-minded when it comes to ideas that their colleagues from just a decade past would've thought impossible. I mean right now people think that the military are still decades, if not a century away, from creating AI and autonomous robotic vehicles that will not need a human operator to work properly. There's several UAV prototypes named Reapers flying in Afghanistan with advanced automatic man-made object detection and coherent change detection programming. Not only can the Reapers come close to flying itself, but its sensors can recognize and categorize humans and human-made objects and relay such information back to its base command. It also can make sense of changes in the target its watching like being able to interpret and retrace footprints and determine if the target is hidden within a camouflage system natural or man-made.

Yeah, so plasmids is a technology that is definitely plausible in the forseeable future if not totally possible. All that requires is funding and dedication to see the research through.I mean research groups both in the US and the UK have already begun R&D in finding a way to use the bio-electrical charge within a human being to power nanobots injected into a human. So, nanobots using that same charge to simulate plasmid-like effects don't seem farfetch.

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DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

Buck_Hotep
As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

thepwninator

As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>

Well, fictional orgs don't count. :P

And DARPA is a real organization. :)

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

Buck_Hotep

As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>

Well, fictional orgs don't count. :P

And DARPA is a real organization. :)

I forget, was it DARPA that wanted to make a gay bomb"? :P Edit: Nevermind, that was the USAF
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>xaos

Well, fictional orgs don't count. :P

And DARPA is a real organization. :)

I forget, was it DARPA that wanted to make a gay bomb"? :P

LOL, they may have. With that group one never knows. I mean if not for DARPA there wouldn't be no interwebs despite what Al Gore may say.

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

DARPA already has projects to look at the feasibility of such powers being made available to soldiers by way of nanotechnology.

Buck_Hotep

As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>

Well, fictional orgs don't count. :P

And DARPA is a real organization. :)

Well, the Illuminati is a real organization. For all you know, its faction that is predicted to become MJ12 by 2050 already exists :P

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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]As do UNATCO and MJ12. >.>thepwninator

Well, fictional orgs don't count. :P

And DARPA is a real organization. :)

Well, the Illuminati is a real organization. For all you know, its faction that is predicted to become MJ12 by 2050 already exists :P

Well, I can't argue with that type of logic. :lol:

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Plasmids are real... they just don't work like the plasmids of Bioshock work. And I doubt they ever will.
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No, that's like trying to build a plasma superbright TV with nothing but steel plates and a screwdriver.
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i'm not sure but that would be so cool. id get the bees one.
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I think it is possible but not on the level of bioshock. I'm pretty sure that, given enough time, we could manipulate human DNA to mimick what occurs in other types of animals. Heck DNA has already been combined and weeded out in the lab to make new species. I'm not sure if we could do it by means of an injectable steroid or something that could change our DNA so rapidly that it woudl create such a fast effect though.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

I mean scientists during the 80's said that a computer could never have the computing power to beat a chessmaster in chess yet it happened. As long as the military thinks there's some military application for a way out there idea like plasmids they will fund it to see if it's even remotely possible. The research alone will probably bring about new technology that people never thought to research and develop.

Buck_Hotep

What scientists said that? :)

Well, a famous example of a scientist not thinking outside the box when it comes to tech advancement is Hubert Dreyfus from UC-Berkeley. In 1967 he famously predicted that no computer can ever beat him in chess. Soon after he did get beat by a computer at chess so he adjusted his prediction in 1972 and said no computer can beat a skilled and nationally ranked chess player. Again, his prediction was shot down soon after when a computer did just that. He adjusted his prediction once more in 1992 when he predicted that no computer can ever beat the best chess player in the world. Then in 1997 IBM's Depp Blue did just that by beating Garry Kasparov.

With the current crop of scientists and researchers having grown up on science-fiction such as Terminator, Star Wars and the latest Trek, not to mention on video games, they're much more open-minded when it comes to ideas that their colleagues from just a decade past would've thought impossible. I mean right now people think that the military are still decades, if not a century away, from creating AI and autonomous robotic vehicles that will not need a human operator to work properly. There's several UAV prototypes named Reapers flying in Afghanistan with advanced automatic man-made object detection and coherent change detection programming. Not only can the Reapers come close to flying itself, but its sensors can recognize and categorize humans and human-made objects and relay such information back to its base command. It also can make sense of changes in the target its watching like being able to interpret and retrace footprints and determine if the target is hidden within a camouflage system natural or man-made.

Yeah, so plasmids is a technology that is definitely plausible in the forseeable future if not totally possible. All that requires is funding and dedication to see the research through.I mean research groups both in the US and the UK have already begun R&D in finding a way to use the bio-electrical charge within a human being to power nanobots injected into a human. So, nanobots using that same charge to simulate plasmid-like effects don't seem farfetch.

But will they ever announce it to the public or will they just keep it to themselves and use it on soldiers

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To all those who don't think it ever will happen, or not for a long time, let me ask you this.

Do you think that people who lived in the 1840's thought that in roughly 100 years there would be a single bomb, dropped from a metal air plane, that could decimate an entire city utilizing nuclear energy? Of course not, planes hadn't even be envisioned yet, let alone a bomb of that power. How about a man living in the early 1900's, what would he say if you told him that in the next 60 years people would fly a ship into space where they would land on the moon, and then come back to Earth alive.

Science is advancing faster then it ever has in human history, it's impossible to predicate what's in store for us.

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To all those who don't think it ever will happen, or not for a long time, let me ask you this.

Do you think that people who lived in the 1840's thought that in roughly 100 years there would be a single bomb, dropped from a metal air plane, that could decimate an entire city utilizing nuclear energy? Of course not, planes hadn't even be envisioned yet, let alone a bomb of that power. How about a man living in the early 1900's, what would he say if you told him that in the next 60 years people would fly a ship into space where they would land on the moon, and then come back to Earth alive.

Science is advancing faster then it ever has in human history, it's impossible to predicate what's in store for us.

mfacek
Is it? Where are the breakthroughs on the order of relativity and quantum theory? Seems to me, physics and chemistry at least have plateaued...
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Would you kindly lern2biology?
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[QUOTE="mfacek"]

To all those who don't think it ever will happen, or not for a long time, let me ask you this.

Do you think that people who lived in the 1840's thought that in roughly 100 years there would be a single bomb, dropped from a metal air plane, that could decimate an entire city utilizing nuclear energy? Of course not, planes hadn't even be envisioned yet, let alone a bomb of that power. How about a man living in the early 1900's, what would he say if you told him that in the next 60 years people would fly a ship into space where they would land on the moon, and then come back to Earth alive.

Science is advancing faster then it ever has in human history, it's impossible to predicate what's in store for us.

xaos

Is it? Where are the breakthroughs on the order of relativity and quantum theory? Seems to me, physics and chemistry at least have plateaued...

Physics and chemistry have "plateaued" just as they have time and time again throughout history. Then some major advancement in technology comes along, something new discovered, something reconsidered etc.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

There's always room to improve, expand, continue, etc.

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It would be great if it happened, but it would take a very long time to create them.

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A wise man once said,"With great power comes great responsibility." If plasmids become a reality not only will we have plenty of ways of using it for good, we will have just as many if not more for using it for evil. I'd bet money that a secret military organization is working on a super soldier project. Seriously......

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i hope so i always thought about it i would really like to have telekinesis