Are the Liberals destroying America ?

Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....LJS9502_basic

Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....LJS9502_basic

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....H8sMikeMoore

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

Destroying America? The Founding Fathers were Liberals. >_>PannicAtack

umm Liberal and conservatives today are completely different than political parties from that time. The world was a completely different place...

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Destroying America? The Founding Fathers were Liberals. >_>ferrari2001

umm Liberal and conservatives today are completely different than political parties from that time. The world was a completely different place...

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....delol

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....H8sMikeMoore

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....delol

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....PannicAtack

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

his intellect is too much to handle sometimes.

[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....H8sMikeMoore

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

Ps :this is not a snide remark

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....H8sMikeMoore

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

his intellect is too much to handle sometimes.

I'm with H8sMikeMoore on this one. I'm a liberal, and those guys piss me off.Bio_Spark

I'm with H8sMikeMoore on this one. I'm a liberal, and those guys piss me off.Bio_Spark

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....delol

I hope you mean neo-conservative. and no they arent the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

his intellect is too much to handle sometimes.

i didnt ask for anyones support, i never do when i get it its because someone chooses to give it to me. I mean you asked a question, i answered and you made a baseless remark. you do that a lot.

No, but the Neocons sure are.LegendaryFox77

[QUOTE="LegendaryFox77"]No, but the Neocons sure are.LJS9502_basic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocon

Massive difference. I would not want to be associated with the Bush family at all.

No. Politicians are destroying America. All of them.famicommander

very true.

[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Panic attack"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Lately that has been the activity of the conservatives.....H8sMikeMoore

I hope you mean neoconservative. and no they aren't the same thing.

anyway my opinion isnt so much geared at liberals as it is the fluffy hippie liberals/bleeding heart liberals.

oh and why is that?

his intellect is too much to handle sometimes.

i didn't ask for anyone's support, i never do when i get it its because someone chooses to give it to me. I mean you asked a question, i answered and you made a baseless remark. you do that a lot.

And you have tried the same rhetorical tactic other times in the past

I am not your enemy i am just a guy that have some opinion differences whit you and that is not a reason to you to be aggressive even when my English is not near perfection

Massive difference. I would not want to be associated with the Bush family at all.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="LegendaryFox77"]No, but the Neocons sure are.LJS9502_basic

Really?

I see a huge difference between the two.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Massive difference. I would not want to be associated with the Bush family at all.

LJS9502_basic

the labels have meaning though. thats why we label in the first place. Neocons actually have a lot more in common with big government liberals than they do anything with real conservatism. The only thing bush is really conservative on is social issues which goes directly against the idea of real conservatism.

Paleo = Ron Paul

Neo = George Bush.

How? There are very few actual liberals in the government in a position to have a great effect on the country. the last liberal to run for president was McGovern. If anything it is the conservatives that are destroying america. PATH0G3N

Who was the last conservative to run for president?

[QUOTE="PATH0G3N"]How? There are very few actual liberals in the government in a position to have a great effect on the country. the last liberal to run for president was McGovern. If anything it is the conservatives that are destroying america. H8sMikeMoore

Who was the last conservative to run for president?

hmm, hard one, reagan? Although he increased government spending, so i'm not really sure.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="PATH0G3N"]How? There are very few actual liberals in the government in a position to have a great effect on the country. the last liberal to run for president was McGovern. If anything it is the conservatives that are destroying america. PATH0G3N

Who was the last conservative to run for president?

hmm, hard one, reagan? Although he increased government spending, so i'm not really sure.

Hoover?

[QUOTE="PATH0G3N"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="PATH0G3N"]How? There are very few actual liberals in the government in a position to have a great effect on the country. the last liberal to run for president was McGovern. If anything it is the conservatives that are destroying america. PannicAtack

Who was the last conservative to run for president?

hmm, hard one, reagan? Although he increased government spending, so i'm not really sure.

Hoover?

Well, he said conservative, not paleo-conservative. So i'd guess it was raegan, but then again he increased government spending, which increased its size.

Personally, I am not into playing the partisan game.

Let me try...

Hoover?

PannicAtack

I'd vote Eisenhower myself.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

Let me try...

Hoover?

Hewkii

I'd vote Eisenhower myself.

Well eisenhower was more moderate than conservative, as he endorsed and incouraged social programs, even saying that if any party were to try to abolish them then they will never be heard from again in american politics. That said, i like ike, definitly my favorite post FDR republican president, from his military industrial complex speech to his endorsement of social programs, great president.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="PATH0G3N"]How? There are very few actual liberals in the government in a position to have a great effect on the country. the last liberal to run for president was McGovern. If anything it is the conservatives that are destroying america. PATH0G3N

Who was the last conservative to run for president?

hmm, hard one, reagan? Although he increased government spending, so i'm not really sure.

reagan was at least partially influenced by the neocon idea. off the top of my head i couldnt tell you who the last real conservative in office was

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Destroying America? The Founding Fathers were Liberals. >_>PannicAtack

umm Liberal and conservatives today are completely different than political parties from that time. The world was a completely different place...

The point is, yeah sure the Founding Fathers were "liberals" but most of them were very conservative in our way of thinking. Jefferson for one was very active against large government, as were several other founding fathers. So by our way of thinking they were conservatives.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Destroying America? The Founding Fathers were Liberals. >_>hokies1313

umm Liberal and conservatives today are completely different than political parties from that time. The world was a completely different place...

The point is, yeah sure the Founding Fathers were "liberals" but most of them were very conservative in our way of thinking. Jefferson for one was very active against large government, as were several other founding fathers. So by our way of thinking they were conservatives.

His actions don't reflect that, though. I'm not denying it, I'm just saying that he was liberal in practice. I think the Louisiana Purchase supports this notion; how can one maintain small government while doubling the size of the country?

Is Bush liberal?... I rest my case.Video_Game_King

he pretty much is. no thats not sarcasm.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Destroying America? The Founding Fathers were Liberals. >_>Video_Game_King

umm Liberal and conservatives today are completely different than political parties from that time. The world was a completely different place...

The point is, yeah sure the Founding Fathers were "liberals" but most of them were very conservative in our way of thinking. Jefferson for one was very active against large government, as were several other founding fathers. So by our way of thinking they were conservatives.

His actions don't reflect that, though. I'm not denying it, I'm just saying that he was liberal in practice. I think the Louisiana Purchase supports this notion; how can one maintain small government while doubling the size of the country?

the original intent of the federal government wouldnt need to become bigger even if there were more states.