Are there too many people on the planet?

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#1 gamerguru100
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World population: 7.1 billion

Too many?

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#2 wis3boi
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not really

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#3 SoNin360
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Not yet.
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#4 gamerguru100
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What do you guys think is the threshold for "too many people"?

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#5 Nibroc420
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What do you guys think is the threshold for "too many people"?

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With equal distribution of wealth, there would be no threshold
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#6 TheFlush
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Unless we massively switch to environmentally friendly renewable energy... yeah, there's too many of us.

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#7 lo_Pine
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No. When over 300 million of the planet is overweight they are eating the food that could feed the 1 billion or so starving people. Not to mention what the healthy weight people throw out what they don't finish. Or the people who over order. Ever flown across the US? Yeah, you'll see for yourself there is PLENTY of land in this world to go around. Water, now that migh be another thing, but if banking got into the purification of chemicals into water business you can be sure there would be enough water for everyone on the planet. Where banking flourishes, business and innovation flourishes.
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#8 johnd13
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With equal distribution of wealth, there would be no thresholdNibroc420

This. The planet can still take a lot more people than now.

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#9 TheFlush
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You are being naive if you think this is about physical space....

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#10 Nibroc420
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You are being naive if you think this is about physical space....

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that's all it's about.
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#11 quidy123
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

You are being naive if you think this is about physical space....

Nibroc420
that's all it's about.

its more about running out off resources than running out of space
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#12 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]

You are being naive if you think this is about physical space....

quidy123
that's all it's about.

its more about running out off resources than running out of space

Food can be grown, houses built.
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#13 ShadowsDemon
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Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.
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#14 TheFlush
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[QUOTE="quidy123"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] that's all it's about.Nibroc420
its more about running out off resources than running out of space

Food can be grown, houses built.

What about fossil fuel?

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#15 punkpunker
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no but there are too many fat people hogging the food that could end world hunger, not to mention waste them which we all are guilty with.

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#16 GamerwillzPS
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Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ShadowsDemon

This, sadly, is also a fact.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.GamerwillzPS

This, sadly, is also a fact.

In my time on the internet and in school it's way too common.
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#18 LJS9502_basic
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Nope.
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#19 jun_aka_pekto
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Not where I am.

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#20 BluRayHiDef
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Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ShadowsDemon
Says a moron. Oh, the irony. [spoiler] Joke. [/spoiler]

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#21 LeBump
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Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ShadowsDemon
This is pretty much the only reason.
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#22 k2theswiss
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for my liking? yes

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#23 jun_aka_pekto
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If it's simply about the relationship between the number of people on the planet and the land area of Earth.....

The area of Earth's landmass is ~148,300,000 sq km. In square meters, it would be ~148,300,000,000,000 sq m.

The Earth's current human population (according to the World Bank) is: ~6,973,738,433 as of January 17, 2013 

Divide the area of Earth's landmass by the number of people and there should be 21265.5 sq m of land for each person.

Obviously, it's not that simple. There are a lot of other factors to consider like the level of urbanization and urban concentration.

Plus, the oceans make up around 70% of the Earth's total area. Perhaps, humans can learn to live on or in them.

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#24 Blood-Scribe
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The problem isn't the amount of people in itself. It's the rate at which we consume natural resources in an unsustainable manner and our over-reliance on non-renewable energy to support our infrastructure. Bearing those in mind, I'd say we do have a looming overpopulation problem.
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#25 Zaibach
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Unless we massively switch to environmentally friendly renewable energy... yeah, there's too many of us.

TheFlush

This, 

We are living in an unsustainable way.

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#26 jun_aka_pekto
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The problem isn't the amount of people in itself. It's the rate at which we consume natural resources in an unsustainable manner and our over-reliance on non-renewable energy to support our infrastructure. Bearing those in mind, I'd say we do have a looming overpopulation problem.Blood-Scribe

That or go back to being an agrarian society.

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#27 AussieePet
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Noo why does it matter anyways?
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#28 Blood-Scribe
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[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]The problem isn't the amount of people in itself. It's the rate at which we consume natural resources in an unsustainable manner and our over-reliance on non-renewable energy to support our infrastructure. Bearing those in mind, I'd say we do have a looming overpopulation problem.jun_aka_pekto

That or go back to being an agrarian society.

Maybe Thomas Jefferson was right after all ;[
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#29 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]The problem isn't the amount of people in itself. It's the rate at which we consume natural resources in an unsustainable manner and our over-reliance on non-renewable energy to support our infrastructure. Bearing those in mind, I'd say we do have a looming overpopulation problem.Blood-Scribe

That or go back to being an agrarian society.

Maybe Thomas Jefferson was right after all ;[

I think so. Well, we can go back to being an agrarian society on our own or do it the Khmer Rouge way. 

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#30 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ShadowsDemon

This, sadly, is also a fact.

In my time on the internet and in school it's way too common.

You've met several billions? That's impressive.
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#31 Zeviander
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With equal distribution of wealth, there would be no thresholdNibroc420
That sure worked out for the Soviet Union.
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#32 ArmoredCore55
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Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ShadowsDemon
This.
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#33 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.ArmoredCore55
This.

how do you know you aren't one of them?
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#34 GOGOGOGURT
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Haha not even close.  25 billion would barely be too many.  And we will never get there.  Statistically impossible and all.

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[QUOTE="ArmoredCore55"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.Rich3232
This.

how do you know you aren't one of them?

 

Well obviously if you don't agree with them.  DUH. 

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#36 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="ArmoredCore55"] This.GOGOGOGURT

how do you know you aren't one of them?

 

Well obviously if you don't agree with them.  DUH. 

It's funny how people on the Internet believe they are so smart. Smart people don't waste their time on the Internet. They read books and stuff.
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#37 -Vulpix-
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Yes, there are definetly too many people in this world.

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] how do you know you aren't one of them? lo_Pine

 

Well obviously if you don't agree with them.  DUH. 

It's funny how people on the Internet believe they are so smart. Smart people don't waste their time on the Internet. They read books and stuff.

 

Tots

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#39 Cloud_765
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Never enough.
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#40 GOGOGOGURT
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Never enough. Cloud_765

 

This.  How are more people bad?  More people means more minds to solve problems.  To invent.  To advance.  To make us great.  It's really absurd that humans are saying there are TOO MANY OF OUR OWN SPECIES. 

 

Well feel free to kill yourself.

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#41 Jackc8
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Which ones do you suggest we get rid of exactly?

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#42 Blood-Scribe
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[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]Never enough. GOGOGOGURT

This.  How are more people bad?  More people means more minds to solve problems.  To invent.  To advance.  To make us great.  It's really absurd that humans are saying there are TOO MANY OF OUR OWN SPECIES. 

Do you not understand the concept of finite natural resources?

More people means more mouths to feed, more fresh water to irrigate, more homes and cars to power, and more strain on the infrastructure that provides these services and goods.

That's the problem. There's only so much that this planet can provide us with given our current rates of consumption and wasteful practices.

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#43 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Too many stupid people and not enough intelligent people.BluRayHiDef

Says a moron. Oh, the irony. [spoiler] Joke. [/spoiler]

F*ck you, f*cker. [spoiler] I thought you were serious for a second :P [/spoiler]
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#44 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]Never enough. Blood-Scribe

This.  How are more people bad?  More people means more minds to solve problems.  To invent.  To advance.  To make us great.  It's really absurd that humans are saying there are TOO MANY OF OUR OWN SPECIES. 

Do you not understand the concept of finite natural resources?

More people means more mouths to feed, more fresh water to irrigate, more homes and cars to power, and more strain on the infrastructure that provides these services and goods.

That's the problem. There's only so much that this planet can provide us with given our current rates of consumption and wasteful practices.

No such thing as "finite natural resources"
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#45 Blood-Scribe
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] No such thing as "finite natural resources"

Yes, actually there is. It's simply any natural resource that can't be replenished quickly enough to offset the rate at which it is consumed. Examples of this would be fossil fuels that take millions of years to form, or metal ores like uranium.
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#46 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] No such thing as "finite natural resources"

Yes, actually there is. It's simply any natural resource that can't be replenished quickly enough to offset the rate at which it is consumed. Examples of this would be fossil fuels that take millions of years to form, or metal ores like uranium.

You're correct in theory. However wrong in reality.
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#47 Ricardomz
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No. We're just all concentrated in the same place.

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#48 CreatureRising
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Yes

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#49 nooblet69
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Yeah, especially in India and China.

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#50 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] No such thing as "finite natural resources"Blood-Scribe
Yes, actually there is. It's simply any natural resource that can't be replenished quickly enough to offset the rate at which it is consumed. Examples of this would be fossil fuels that take millions of years to form, or metal ores like uranium.

Fossil fuels aren't necessary. When we harness renewable energy sources like solar power and wind we won't need them. If we ever get a mastery of fusion we'll have more energy than we will ever need. As for metal ores, everything can be recycled, and it's not like the metal is going anywhere. Plus, I could see us harvesting the resources of other planets in the future, although I believe that Mars is devoid of natural resources so it would most likely be asteroids that would be mined. If we're getting even more hopeful for the future, we could just make artificial metals. All metals are made of the same particles, just in different amounts. The only finite resource that we have is space, but we have a lot so it would take a lot of people to take that all up.