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seeing that other thread made me wonder.
I hate guns. i don't see why people need to own one. if you wnat to hunt just rent one out. this is just my opinion. i wanted to know how many gun fanatics are on ot.
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poll/
seeing that other thread made me wonder.
I hate guns. i don't see why people need to own one. if you wnat to hunt just rent one out. this is just my opinion. i wanted to know how many gun fanatics are on ot.
I don't have one for personal protection, I hunt. And for pest control. I'm sure Pirate and Racerdan are with me on this. :P
Need to keep the deer population under control, and the groundhogs away from the shed.
Well, I would say I'm for it, but the problem is, since there are so many guns out there and so many owners of them, it'd be pretty damn hard to illegalize them now.
The day someone tries to take my right to own weapons, is the day I start a militia.Stevo_the_gamerThe day someone tries to take my right to own weapons, is the day I use my weapons
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The day someone tries to take my right to own weapons, is the day I start a militia.surrealnumber5The day someone tries to take my right to own weapons, is the day I use my weaponsOh, that's a good one! :)
Perfect example. :)Against, and they are illegal in my country.. guess what? We are the murder capital of the Caribbean. As the saying goes, if you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns.
Espada12
Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
Ingenemployee
Very Against. Why in the world would you make owning a gun illegal. The day that happens is the day we have enough proof that the gov't is spitting on the constitution and we can rise up and overthrow the government. ferrari2001Exactly. I'm so against it, it makes my head hurt.
due to the lax law in the US, people will still get guns. I mean look at the drug and narcotics black market... brisk_frisk
True, but people don't have drug and narcotic racks proudly displayed in their homes and they don't don orange overcoats to go into the woods to take down deer with their crackpipes. Guns are larger, higher profile items that you cannot use privately in your own home. If they were to become illegal you could keep some firearms hidden in the home for self defense but it would be a large paradigm shift for recreational shooters, hunters, etc.
Your point is valid though. The predominantly defining characterstic of a criminal is that they break the law (by definition). Enacting laws that disallow gun ownership would only keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
-Byshop
Making guns illegal would only take them out of the hands of people who would use them for non-criminal reasons. Criminals would use guns knowing that the police can't get there in time.
I very strongly support the right to own, manufacture, purchase, sell, possess and when the situation calls for it, use firearms.
I'm not sure I understand the constituion argument. It was drawn up 218 years ago - times change. America is over twice the size it was in 1791 and it's not as if there's as much danger from natives or surrounding European powers (ie. Spain and France).
I don't own a firearm, but I do not like the idea of banning them.
A ban would only cause the law-abiding to give up their weapons, it would do nothing to address the real issue with personal firearms...
[QUOTE="Espada12"]Perfect example. :)Against, and they are illegal in my country.. guess what? We are the murder capital of the Caribbean. As the saying goes, if you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns.
MillenialFair99
But outlawing them will make it harder for outlaws to get them. And I'm sure that the odd law abiding citizen can turn to criminal activities.
But I think a lot depends on the culture. In the US I imagine everyone accepts firearms (to some degree or another) and gets on with their lives. But I hate to think what would happen if they were legalised in the UK, where I live.
[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
MillenialFair99
In Canada you have to do a back ground check to purchase any weapon, and are required to have a gun license. The one bad things is then you have to register your weapon, and if it get stolen out of your home and used in a crime you are held relyable. So for me i'd be against gun registration.
I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]
Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
kittensRjerks
In Canada you have to do a back ground check to purchase any weapon, and are required to have a gun license. The one bad things is then you have to register your weapon, and if it get stolen out of your home and used in a crime you are held relyable. So for me i'd be against gun registration.
You have to have a background check here in the US too and I think it has to be registered . Not sure on that last one. I know handguns do.[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]
Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.In Canada you have to do a back ground check to purchase any weapon, and are required to have a gun license. The one bad things is then you have to register your weapon, and if it get stolen out of your home and used in a crime you are held relyable. So for me i'd be against gun registration.
Does that include blades?I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]
Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
kittensRjerks
In Canada you have to do a back ground check to purchase any weapon, and are required to have a gun license. The one bad things is then you have to register your weapon, and if it get stolen out of your home and used in a crime you are held relyable. So for me i'd be against gun registration.
This sounds about as good a system as possible with guns being legalised. Guns are massively dangerous, and that danger is multiplied tenfold in the hands of a criminal/maniac etc. If you're careless enough to let your gun be stolen by someone then proceeds to use it on someone innocent, I think you deserve every repurcussion coming to you.
[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.Meh. My younger brother (20) tried to buy a handgun at Cabelas, not realising the legal age was 21 for purchasing. After completing the background check, it came back that he was under age. My older brother was buying the same model gun, and since he couldn't buy it my brother decided to snatch it up (it was the last one there) Well Cabelas wouldn't sell it to him because they thought he was trying to buy it for my younger brother, which is stupid because its legal to buy guns as gifts as long as there the legal age of 18 and have no felonies. Well the ATF got involved and he dang near was arrested on the spot. My point is, it's sad that you can't even legally purchase a firearm without being looked at as a criminal.Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
MillenialFair99
If we make guns illegal it wont stop criminals from getting them, more than likely will make it easier if there is no regulation.poll/
seeing that other thread made me wonder.
I hate guns. i don't see why people need to own one. if you wnat to hunt just rent one out. this is just my opinion. i wanted to know how many gun fanatics are on ot.
IAMTHEJOKER88
[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]
Nope, I think there should be a detailed background check but guns should stay legal with exception of full automatic and military grade. One day I would like to start a gun collection one day.
I'm for detailed background checks too. It's really no harm at all, and very worth it. If someone has a history of violence, denie them guns. That simple.Meh. My younger brother (20) tried to buy a handgun at Cabelas, not realising the legal age was 21 for purchasing. After completing the background check, it came back that he was under age. My older brother was buying the same model gun, and since he couldn't buy it my brother decided to snatch it up (it was the last one there) Well Cabelas wouldn't sell it to him because they thought he was trying to buy it for my younger brother, which is stupid because its legal to buy guns as gifts as long as there the legal age of 18 and have no felonies. Well the ATF got involved and he dang near was arrested on the spot. My point is, it's sad that you can't even legally purchase a firearm without being looked at as a criminal. That sounds pretty sad. :(I don't own a gun. That is my choice. As much as I think they are unnecessary, I still think people should be allowed to own them in the US. That being said, I hate extreme rightism's ideals for gun ownership and the NRA. The politics associated with both are just too much.
Should we have a responsible government that makes sure we keep tabs on people with intentions to stockpile guns? Should there be some restrictions on gun ownership? Yeah. But taking guns away from people won't solve anything.
See also: prohibition.
Perfect example. :)[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Espada12"]
Against, and they are illegal in my country.. guess what? We are the murder capital of the Caribbean. As the saying goes, if you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns.
PapaJuliio17
But outlawing them will make it harder for outlaws to get them. And I'm sure that the odd law abiding citizen can turn to criminal activities.
But I think a lot depends on the culture. In the US I imagine everyone accepts firearms (to some degree or another) and gets on with their lives. But I hate to think what would happen if they were legalised in the UK, where I live.
It really wouldn't. Someone can turn to crime simply because they had a bad day, but there are all kinds of weapons that they can do that with. However, there is already a system in place of gun controls, background checks, etc. that prevent criminals from going into a store and buying a gun w/o the store owner getting in trouble. I've even witnessed a Wal-Mart refusing to sell ammo to a friend of mine from several years ago simply because he was dressed like a thug, and the store is within its rights to refuse service to anyone. Yes, there is a fear of guns, but the simple reality is that banning guns wouldn't have a good effect here. You can't trust the police to get to you in time, and criminals would just use the same methods of getting guns that they already do.Perfect example. :)[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Espada12"]
Against, and they are illegal in my country.. guess what? We are the murder capital of the Caribbean. As the saying goes, if you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns.
PapaJuliio17
But outlawing them will make it harder for outlaws to get them. And I'm sure that the odd law abiding citizen can turn to criminal activities.
But I think a lot depends on the culture. In the US I imagine everyone accepts firearms (to some degree or another) and gets on with their lives. But I hate to think what would happen if they were legalised in the UK, where I live.
I'd love it to be legalised here, since our police are incompetent we can start defending ourselves against these terrible criminals. Also outlawing it doesn't make it much harder for them to get them, because even while they are outlawed in my country guess what? They are STILL getting them with relative ease, and guess what, I can't even legally get one to fight back.
[QUOTE="PapaJuliio17"][QUOTE="MillenialFair99"] Perfect example. :)MAILER_DAEMON
But outlawing them will make it harder for outlaws to get them. And I'm sure that the odd law abiding citizen can turn to criminal activities.
But I think a lot depends on the culture. In the US I imagine everyone accepts firearms (to some degree or another) and gets on with their lives. But I hate to think what would happen if they were legalised in the UK, where I live.
It really wouldn't. Someone can turn to crime simply because they had a bad day, but there are all kinds of weapons that they can do that with. However, there is already a system in place of gun controls, background checks, etc. that prevent criminals from going into a store and buying a gun w/o the store owner getting in trouble. I've even witnessed a Wal-Mart refusing to sell ammo to a friend of mine from several years ago simply because he was dressed like a thug, and the store is within its rights to refuse service to anyone. Yes, there is a fear of guns, but the simple reality is that banning guns wouldn't have a good effect here. You can't trust the police to get to you in time, and criminals would just use the same methods of getting guns that they already do.Most other weapons eg. hammers/ knives have other uses, whearas a gun is a pure out and out killing machine, and I feel the less of those going around, the better. Apologies for my naivety, but how do criminals get guns these days?
I had to read that poll like 3 times to be sure of what I was voting for
-Shrubs-
trying to catch you out :)
I don't think people should have the right to carry arms. I've been to other countries like China, Hong Kong, Korea, and Taiwan where people are not allowed to carry any guns and such. As a result no one gets shot and I don't believe many people have illegal fire arms. I can walk out on the street anywhere in any neighborhood not worrying about getting shot.
As for this thing about being able to overthrow the government; that was only valid back in the days when regular people could hold firearms just as good as the military. Now a days, people don't own the rights to own tanks and assault rifles. It's pointless.
It's too late to get rid of guns here since they are already floating around here illegally and they still would be if they were banned. We gust need to reform and have hella tight gun laws.
I live in LA and was looking at the murder report on latimes.com and over 80% of the murders were from gun violence. Just 3 days ago a Korean girl that lived not too far from my friends home got shot and killed.
I hate guns and I would do away with all to the general public if i can.
Like Chris Rock said, "It takes a real man to get up close and personal."
I don't like the idea that I'm supposed to treat robbers and rapists like the neighbor's horny dog: "He'll stop when he's finished," while I wait patiently for the police to show up. I'd rather have a gun.
Palantas
so what, so you can just kill him or accidentally kill someone else? There are other ways of forcing robbers out of your home, if you're brave, or you should do the sensible thing and get out of the house...
I don't think legalising widespread gun ownership would be a good idea here in the UK, I think it would cause more violent crime than it would solve.
When it comes to the USA however, it is evident that gun ownership is ingrained into the fabric of the nation, and hence it works. Or at least, it would be more troublesome to actually take guns away from people, since apparently they'd shoot you over it.
Trying to make guns illegal would never work. People wouldn't allow that, especially since many use them for protection and hunting and the people that use them for wrong don't usually get them at a store anyways. It really doesn't make any sense, and it would turn out worse than when prohibition was introduced.
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