Are you for or against the war?

Please give reasons.

Yeah which one

Im really undecided..Ive had friends who died in the towers i was really close with..So in some ways im for it..Some other ways im againts it..Saw the towers fall with my own eyes..Live in new jersey saw it the day it happen..It was a horrific day no matter what any one says..People didnt see or here things i did..The chaos it caused the day those towers fell..We also have caught many terrorist in the act of trying to kill new yorkers innocent people..How do you justify some one tyring to kill innocent kids??Cant be done..Its a hard line to follow..Justice must be served to those who have set in motion that horrific day..It was a day that changed america forever i think..It changed me a great deal..Im a little kinder to people i dont even no because of one event..Its just a hard subject..

Undecided; I don't know what's going on or why. :? Makes me wish I'd pay more attention to this sort of stuff...

Subjectional, it can't be looked at the same. We are talking war in general right.

Im really undecided..Ive had friends who died in the towers i was really close with..So in some ways im for it..Some other ways im againts it..Saw the towers fall with my own eyes..Live in new jersey saw it the day it happen..It was a horrific day no matter what any one says..People didnt see or here things i did..The chaos it caused the day those towers fell..We also have caught many terrorist in the act of trying to kill new yorkers innocent people..How do you justify some one tyring to kill innocent kids??Cant be done..Its a hard line to follow..Justice must be served to those who have set in motion that horrific day..It was a day that changed america forever i think..It changed me a great deal..Im a little kinder to people i dont even no because of one event..Its just a hard subject..

Gladestone1

War? What war? Yeah there are soldiers out there and every now andagain some get shot hit by some frag or shrap and some die from these injuries but it's not really what I would call a war. More like an occupation with hazards.

I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

Who in the world would be for any war?Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Who in the world would be for any war?The_Gaming_Baby

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Who in the world would be for any war?cybrcatter

As I recall, weren't we deliberately attacked by ISLAMIC TERRORISTS on 9/11?

Yes I support the war on terror! Of course the liberal media wants you to hate GWB and the war, because lefties themselves are all terrorist lovers

Syk0_k03r

As I recall, weren't we deliberately attacked by ISLAMIC TERRORISTS on 9/11?

Yes I support the war on terror! Of course the liberal media wants you to hate GWB and the war, because lefties themselves are all terrorist lovers

Syk0_k03r

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I don't support the war in Iraq, there was no reason to go in and there is no justified reason to stay. I don't support nation building in Afganistan either, however I support hunting down Al Qaeda and bringing them to justice.

I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

Intoolectual

By that logic, anybody who doesn't hold experience in a particular area has no right to an opinion? What?

Kill all extremists, no mercy. They hate us already, it's me or them, better be them.

I support the war in Afghanistan. I think entering Iraq was a very bad mistake, but staying and fixing the mess having already having overthrown the government, destroyed the entire national infrastructure and preventing civil war was/is necessary. I would highly prefer to avoid future conflicts.

It's a necessity.

I've been changing my political views a lot lately. Right now, I think the War on Afghanistan was necessary in order to eliminate the Al-Queda and the Taliban for harboring them and bring Osama Bin Laden to justice. But then everything was sidetracked and the war on Iraq began due to the possibiity of WMDs and Saddam's ties with terrorist organizations. I think we should of focused all our efforts on Afghanistan and capturing Osama Bin Laden. As for nation-building, I would support it there. We did a lot of good by rebuilding and protecting government and school buildings and ensuring that Islamic extremism would be eliminated. If we doubled our efforts there instead of Iraq, I bet Afghanistan would be a helluva lot better than it is today.

We jumped the gun on Iraq but it's not like we can leave a country to the hands of radicals. It'sbetter to clean up the mess then to leave it otherwise we'd have the same situation when we helped Afghanistan against the Russians back in the 80s. There was so much potential in the region but we left it in the hands of the Taliban where they recruited many young men to their cause because they lost their families.

Right now, the best thing to do is help Iraq while we progressively reduce the amount of troops there and move all our resources into helping Afghanistan while reprioritizing on capturing Osama Bin Laden.

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I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

Rekunta

By that logic, anybody who doesn't hold experience in a particular area has no right to an opinion? What?

Kill all extremists, no mercy. They hate us already, it's me or them, better be them.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay too much attention to some fool ignorant of philosophy speaking on that very topic.

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I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

TheAbbeFaria

By that logic, anybody who doesn't hold experience in a particular area has no right to an opinion? What?

Kill all extremists, no mercy. They hate us already, it's me or them, better be them.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay too much attention to some fool ignorant of philosophy speaking on that very topic.

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By that logic, anybody who doesn't hold experience in a particular area has no right to an opinion? What?

Kill all extremists, no mercy. They hate us already, it's me or them, better be them.

Theokhoth

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay too much attention to some fool ignorant of philosophy speaking on that very topic.

Indeed.

Men are supposed to fight. We're power hungry people. Not all of us, but the majority are. I am against war. Because war only does one thing, and that is kill innocent people. The people who put their country to war, are sitting nicely behind their desk. Doing nothing, while people who have nothing to do with either opposing country gets killed.

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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay too much attention to some fool ignorant of philosophy speaking on that very topic.

TheAbbeFaria

Indeed.

I'm against the War in Iraq for the fundamental reason that we could have used Saddam to further our own goals in the region. He really wasn't an issue in the War on Terror and invading his country did nothing but cripple our ability to fight the war in Afghanistan. I am for the War in Afghanistan,but against how the war is being fought. We shouldn't be building a country or setting up a government in a place that hasn't had a stable one since the 70's. Nation building isn't how you win wars, killing the enemy is. In 2002 the country should have been handed over to the Northern Alliance and our eyes focused solely on attacking Al Qaeda. Now, because we chose to occupy and "nation build" we have embroiled ourselves in a long war with the Taliban. The Taliban are most definitely our enemy (they refused to hand over Osama Bin Laden),but they simply aren't an enemy we needed to fight. We've gotten ourselves caught into a situation that should have been avoided. A foreign power is always going to struggle when it occupies a governless land. While I very much doubt Afghanistan is an "unwinable" place (the Red Army was doing fine until Saudi and American money got involved) it simply isn't worth the cost to rebuild.

Men are supposed to fight. We're power hungry people. Not all of us, but the majority are. I am against war. Because war only does one thing, and that is kill innocent people. The people who put their country to war, are sitting nicely behind their desk. Doing nothing, while people who have nothing to do with either opposing country gets killed.

agentdandb

I don't like war. It's unavoidable at times, but I think it degrades us all. As for the war in the middle east, I just don't know all the exact issues as to why we are really there.

So, alot of people justify the war because of the 9/11 attacks...

Look, 9/11 was awful, but more random violence is not the way to deal with violence, especially since the two aren't even linked, none of the hijackers were from Iraq. I mean, did you know American troops are responsible for over approximately 100 thousand unarmed civilian confirmed kills in Iraq, check the wikipedia page of the Iraq War. That's over 20 times more than those who lost their lives in the towers.

Going around waging yet another pointless war is not the way to deal with terrorists. The reason for the 9/11 attack was, according to the terrorists a retaliation to America's war in Afhanistan which had done a lot of damage to their country and killed many of their people. So, what does America do when someone takes revenge for one of their wars? (which is something I'm strongly against too) Of course, start another war right away with a completely unrelated nation to stop "terrorists", even though none of the terrorists were from Iraq, but hey, they all look alike, right?

A "terror war" would be a better term for America's "War on Terror", the people of Iraq did nothing to America. The "War on Terror" is an incredibly racially offensive name to be honest, they're just killing people from Iraq that look similiar to the Afghanistan/Saudi Arabian terrorists... I can't stand how it seems like most Americans think they're the complete center of the world and someone from the east losing their life is pretty much just something to celebrate...

America's aftermath reaction to the towers did considerably more damage than the attack itself.

...as you may have guessed I voted "against"

How could anyone be for the war in Iraq? We're occupying another country unjustly, and the people are trying to make us leave. And to say "But we're fighting terrorism by being in Iraq!" is silly and childish. hillelslovak

They went into Iraq for the oil. Next will be Iran which would probably start world war 3. Unless North Korea doesn't start it sooner. If world war 3 happens we are all **** And this whole war on terror thing is a fraud.

Who in the world would be for any war?Theokhoth

I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

Intoolectual

It's not that dramatic. It's just a job inwhich you kill people when they shoot at you. If you a problem killing people or find gun shots or explosives to be nerve rattling it may be an awkward experience.

Korea and Nam weren't as intense as world war but they were actually intense enough to be considered wars. During those conflicts the U.S fought well trained well equipped soldiers, not novices. They were up against all forms of artilery and heavy gunnery as well as other heavy weapons. Tanks, APCs, aircraft, watercraft. The opposition was well trained and equipped. Theyadvanced and deployed infull force well organized with the intent to win. They were formidable.

This current conflict is not really within the realm of awar.

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I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

MagnumPI

It's not that dramatic. It's just a job inwhich you kill people when they shoot at you. If you a problem killing people or find gun shots or explosives to be nerve rattling it may be an awkward experience.

Korea and Nam weren't as intense as world war but they were actually intense enough to be considered wars. During those conflicts the U.S fought well trained well equipped soldiers, not novices. They were up against all forms of artilery and heavy gunnery as well as other heavy weapons. Tanks, APCs, aircraft, watercraft. The opposition was well trained and equipped. Theyadvanced and deployed infull force well organized with the intent to win. They were formidable.

This current conflict is not really within the realm of awar.

You think those dudes in Afghanistan are novices? They've been fighting for 40 years. They are most certainly formidable.

for defensive war, against preemptive war, against imaginary wars(war on drugs), for educational wars(war on illiteracy) i have no problem with sending out covert ops on the bastards and the groups associated with those bastards who attacked us, but a police action is unneeded. as there was no congressional declaration i dont even see these wars as constitutional. surrealnumber5

I agree.

[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]How could anyone be for the war in Iraq? We're occupying another country unjustly, and the people are trying to make us leave. And to say "But we're fighting terrorism by being in Iraq!" is silly and childish. LeadnSteel

They went into Iraq for the oil. Next will be Iran which would probably start world war 3. Unless North Korea doesn't start it sooner. If world war 3 happens we are all **** And this whole war on terror thing is a fraud.

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I don't believe those who weren't/aren't in the armed forces can have a say on the subject; they cannot possibly truly grasp the war in its entirety.

Frattracide

It's not that dramatic. It's just a job inwhich you kill people when they shoot at you. If you a problem killing people or find gun shots or explosives to be nerve rattling it may be an awkward experience.

Korea and Nam weren't as intense as world war but they were actually intense enough to be considered wars. During those conflicts the U.S fought well trained well equipped soldiers, not novices. They were up against all forms of artilery and heavy gunnery as well as other heavy weapons. Tanks, APCs, aircraft, watercraft. The opposition was well trained and equipped. Theyadvanced and deployed infull force well organized with the intent to win. They were formidable.

This current conflict is not really within the realm of awar.

You think those dudes in Afghanistan are novices? They've been fighting for 40 years. They are most certainly formidable.

Yes, these are the people who took down the USSR in the Soviet-Afgan war of the '80's.