well, are you? i dont have cabple so i cant, but if i did i wouldnt watch it, their getting old...am i mean for saying that? i still respect America though.
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well, are you? i dont have cabple so i cant, but if i did i wouldnt watch it, their getting old...am i mean for saying that? i still respect America though.
Honestly I'm not really into the 9-11 stuff ANYMORE. Firstly because it happened a long time ago and secondly because I'm simply too busy with my OWN life. ;)
Have you seen United 93?No, I see no reason to. They suck anyway.
Samwel_X
I'm not really one to watch movies on that. although i did listen to an interview with a father of 2 men(cop and firefighter) that died that day on the radio today. almost made me tear up. for me the events of 9/11 are still fresh in my mind. it's been 8 years and i find that almost hard to believe. it probably affects me more since i live in NY.
if probably seems old to ppl that where teens or younger when it happened.
No, I am not. I never wanted to watch them before, and I'm not going to watch any now just because it's 9/11.
I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.x-2tha-z
I agree completely. I cannot believe the selfishness of some people.
I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.x-2tha-zDo you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly?
I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.x-2tha-z
There's a difference between people saying it doesn't matter and saying they have but it behind them. Anyway, why should they care or mourn for people they don't know? I think you are being a bit unrealistic here.
Do you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly?[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.raven_squad
I'm not even sure if the UK has a day set aside for the bombing of london.
Do you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly? Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor.[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.raven_squad
[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Do you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly? Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor. It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it.[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I can't believe some of the comments that have been posted in this topic. It's disgusting that people can suggest this event doesn't matter because it happened eight years ago. The 9/11 attacks should never be forgotten. The people who died should be remembered and the bravery of those who tried to help should be honored. I watched the attacks on the towers and their collapse live on TV in the UK on 9/11 2001. I've never been to America and I don't know anyone who lives there but what I watched on tv that day had a big impact on me. To this day when I see footage of the planes flying into the buildings or people falling from the towers or the towers collapsing, it still has a very powerful impact on me, as much today as it did in 2001. No, I wouldn't say the event has got "old". Some of you should show some damn respect. Almost 3000 people lost their lives on that day. I don't think it's too much to ask to take a day or a moments silence to remember what happened, to remember those that died and the family members left behind without as much as a body to bury.Ontain
It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it. raven_squadyes because 9/11 kill several times more deaths it's remembered more. really it's not that hard to understand. 9/11 is seen as an attack on the country. I don't get that from Oklahoma City.
As for Japan, Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack before any declaration of war. the bombs justifications were that we would lose many times more American lives if we had to do a land offensive into japan. Hiroshima was targeted because it was the HQ of some Japanese armies and depots of military supplies. Nagasaki was also one of the largest sea ports and produced military equipment. both were high value targets.
But Americans don't mourn this because it didn't happen to them. And we don't mourn every attack of terrorism or war. for wars it's usually the start or end of them and for attack of terrorism it's usually the biggest one.
But Americans don't mourn this because it didn't happen to them.Ontain
Which is disgusting.
Anyways, I don't really feel the need to discuss this anymore... I'll say a prayer for the families of the victims and move on. Not going to sit around and stew watching videos of the events.
[QUOTE="Ontain"] But Americans don't mourn this because it didn't happen to them.raven_squad
Which is disgusting.
Anyways, I don't really feel the need to discuss this anymore... I'll say a prayer for the families of the victims and move on. Not going to sit around and stew watching videos of the events.
is it? I think it's pretty normal. those directly effected will mourn. those that are quite removed will not. I don't see any western nations mourning the killing that happens in africa every year.[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Do you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly?Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor. It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it.raven_squad
About Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It might be debatable, but there's some strong evidence that Operation Downfall (the operation to invade Japan) would have killed or maimed millions of people. It was a terrible tragedy, but could you imagine the other outcome? The U.S. and its allies might never have even won the War in the Pacific without very great causalties.
But as for the Oklahoma City Bombing, the number dead surely has a hand in whether we remember it or no (we cannot hold a tribute or rememberance for every single person who dies violently in the world for instance), and that is often one of the main ways how we measure tragedy, but I agree in the regard that it is still significant enough to be remembered. Unfortunately, people only remember what is convenient and been drilled into their mind over and over again, and Oklahoma City has not been emphasized for years. People only remember what is convenient much of the time. They are just too busy to remember every major tragedy in the world. Do people dedicate the beginning of the Easter Offensive in 1972 where over 75,000 Vietnamese (including 25,000 civilians) died in 7 months? No, because few Americans were dying by then. Do people dedicate the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing, where the most American servicemen died in one day since the Tet Offensive? No, I don't think so. Will the people in the U.S. dedicate the most recent major Baghdad bombing in August of this year which killed about 100 people 8 years from now? Or the one in 2005 in Iraq that killed over 700 people? Will people remember the Indian Ocean 2004 Tsunami that killed at least 230,000 people? No, because like I said, people in general only remember people of their own nationality and then some of their allies when defining "tragedy", and then everyone else in war is just collateral damage, and in peace time, a temporary and interesting news story.
That's my two cents.
Im watching DVDs all day just so i dont accidently see anything about 9/11. I had all i could take years and years ago.
Why would I want to be reminded of that day?
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EDIT: United 93 really is a great film.
sammyjenkis898
Same here, i feel sorry for em and i would offer my condolences
but i dont want to do anything that reminds me of that event.
[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ontain"] But Americans don't mourn this because it didn't happen to them.Ontain
Which is disgusting.
Anyways, I don't really feel the need to discuss this anymore... I'll say a prayer for the families of the victims and move on. Not going to sit around and stew watching videos of the events.
is it? I think it's pretty normal. those directly effected will mourn. those that are quite removed will not. I don't see any western nations mourning the killing that happens in africa every year. Which is basically my point. Countless people lose their lives in massive attacks around the world, and yet once it effects America its the greatest tragedy and must be relived annually in the form of online videos?[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Do you dedicate April 19th to the bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh? How about August 6th and 9th with the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan where 220,000+ people lost their lives instantly?Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor. It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it. I feel exactly the same way. I think 9/11 is more important because it created wars rather than because it killed a couple thousand people. It's horrible, of course, and I won't stop or blame anyone that mourns during this day. However, I just find that there are at least 10 things that have happened in the last 8 years that are just as bad (The summer of 2006 war in Lebanon, tsunami, the russian/georgian conflict, the Israel/Palestine conflict, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan to name a few). It is your right to mourn for your lost ones if the event had an impact on you, but it would be hypocritical of myself to mourn this conflict while forgetting the others.raven_squad
It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it.[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ontain"] Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor. jetpower3
About Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It might be debatable, but there's some strong evidence that Operation Downfall (the operation to invade Japan) would have killed or maimed millions of people. It was a terrible tragedy, but could you imagine the other outcome? The U.S. and its allies might never have even won the War in the Pacific without very great causalties..
After studying this in my last history class (yesterday, to be exact), I would have to agree. I have no idea how the world would be if the bombs weren't used (wether it would be better or worse), but if the americans made a ground assault and tried to recover most of the island under the japanese sphere of prosperity there would have been at least a million american soldiers dead (not counting the japanese soldiers and civilians that would have died).[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]is it? I think it's pretty normal. those directly effected will mourn. those that are quite removed will not. I don't see any western nations mourning the killing that happens in africa every year. Which is basically my point. Countless people lose their lives in massive attacks around the world, and yet once it effects America its the greatest tragedy and must be relived annually in the form of online videos? You're an extremeley selfish person. I can't believe you're actually saying that. 9/11 is arguable the worst attack on American soil in modern history, and you're basically telling it to **** off. Telling the people who died, who risked their lives, and who continue to die/risk their lives in the name of America to **** off. We mourn today because it directy affected ALL of us. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japs can mourn that. It happened to them, not us. Not U.S. We mourn on Dec. 7 to pay our respects to those who died. What you're saying is disgusting, unpatriotic, and selfish. I can't believe you.Which is disgusting.
Anyways, I don't really feel the need to discuss this anymore... I'll say a prayer for the families of the victims and move on. Not going to sit around and stew watching videos of the events.
raven_squad
It was "only" 168 people? So... because 9/11 resulted in more death its more important? I'm sure the families of the victims feel the same way... And in all honesty, the attacks on Japan were atrocious. Time of war, sure, but we crossed a ridiculous line that day, and it's one of the most disgusting things I can think of. Pearl Harbor was an attack on military targets, ours was an attack to strike fear into people and devastate them. My point is really, war, terrorism, massive attacks and bombings etc are not something new, if I mourned them all I would never quit mourning. And just because this one effected America, it's not any more important. If I'm the only one that feels that way, so be it.[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ontain"] Oklahoma City was terrible but only killed 168. if it weren't for the 9/11 attacks it might still be remembered more. but it was totally overshadowed now by 9/11. another reason is because 9/11 wasn't just 1 building. it was a coordinated attack at multiple places and on civilian targets as well rather than a federal building. and many ppl do remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki but that was during war. But rest assured that the Japanese still remember it. just like we still remember Pearl Harbor. jetpower3
About Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It might be debatable, but there's some strong evidence that Operation Downfall (the operation to invade Japan) would have killed or maimed millions of people. It was a terrible tragedy, but could you imagine the other outcome? The U.S. and its allies might never have even won the War in the Pacific without very great causalties.
But as for the Oklahoma City Bombing, the number dead surely has a hand in whether we remember it or no (we cannot hold a tribute or rememberance for every single person who dies violently in the world for instance), and that is often one of the main ways how we measure tragedy, but I agree in the regard that it is still significant enough to be remembered. Unfortunately, people only remember what is convenient and been drilled into their mind over and over again, and Oklahoma City has not been emphasized for years. People only remember what is convenient much of the time. They are just too busy to remember every major tragedy in the world. Do people dedicate the beginning of the Easter Offensive in 1972 where over 75,000 Vietnamese (including 25,000 civilians) died in 7 months? No, because few Americans were dying by then. Do people dedicate the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing, where the most American servicemen died in one day since the Tet Offensive? No, I don't think so. Will the people in the U.S. dedicate the most recent major Baghdad bombing in August of this year which killed about 100 people 8 years from now? Or the one in 2005 in Iraq that killed over 700 people? Will people remember the Indian Ocean 2004 Tsunami that killed at least 230,000 people? No, because like I said, people in general only remember people of their own nationality and then some of their allies when defining "tragedy", and then everyone else in war is just collateral damage, and in peace time, a temporary and interesting news story.
That's my two cents.
yes Mccarthur picked the lesser oftoo evils, its was a few hundred thousand or japan pretty muc hwiped off the map and 3million+ US soldiers.
and you nailed it it is said that people don't care about much much worse things becuase of where it happens. you give great examples but you forgot two that dwarf both. Rawanda and Darfur. About a million dead for both, millions more are displaced. nothing was done for these poor, trulely defenseless people. all because they are african and have no valued natural resources.
Which is basically my point. Countless people lose their lives in massive attacks around the world, and yet once it effects America its the greatest tragedy and must be relived annually in the form of online videos? You're an extremeley selfish person. I can't believe you're actually saying that. 9/11 is arguable the worst attack on American soil in modern history, and you're basically telling it to **** off. Telling the people who died, who risked their lives, and who continue to die/risk their lives in the name of America to **** off. We mourn today because it directy affected ALL of us. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japs can mourn that. It happened to them, not us. Not U.S. We mourn on Dec. 7 to pay our respects to those who died. What you're saying is disgusting, unpatriotic, and selfish. I can't believe you. Wow, words can't describe how stupid that was. :lol: I never said that 9/11 was anything less then tragic, not even once. But... I'm not going to pay it an overwhelming amount of time mourning it just because it was on American soil while all of these other tragedies go forgotten. Oh, and the term "Japs" is considered offensive, and a racial slur...[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ontain"] is it? I think it's pretty normal. those directly effected will mourn. those that are quite removed will not. I don't see any western nations mourning the killing that happens in africa every year.cpo335
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