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Easily the most heartwarming news article I've read this week; it almost made me tear up. What a lovely dog. :3
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Easily the most heartwarming news article I've read this week; it almost made me tear up. What a lovely dog. :3
The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog.Seen a number of these, and they're heart-warming. May family lab would be like "F*ck you, i'm out", but my own dachshund would be heartbroken :(
lundy86_4
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog. They're great, but they are like children. Very high maintenance animals.Seen a number of these, and they're heart-warming. May family lab would be like "F*ck you, i'm out", but my own dachshund would be heartbroken :(
ghoklebutter
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog.Seen a number of these, and they're heart-warming. May family lab would be like "F*ck you, i'm out", but my own dachshund would be heartbroken :(
ghoklebutter
My hound has attachment issues, since we are together for most of the time. When I go out and leave him, he whines constantly, then always does a sulking act by pinning his ears back and giving me hard-done-by looks when I get home.
Boris, earlier today.
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog.Seen a number of these, and they're heart-warming. May family lab would be like "F*ck you, i'm out", but my own dachshund would be heartbroken :(
ghoklebutter
Yep, they certainly can be. I treat all my dogs exceptionally well, and make sure they are well looked after, and they are fantastic. Certain breeds are attention-hungry (my Dachshund) and some are independent (the family Labrador).
So long as you have the time available, you should totally get a dog. There are breeds for all people (different temperaments, sizes and shedding degrees).
The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog.[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
Seen a number of these, and they're heart-warming. May family lab would be like "F*ck you, i'm out", but my own dachshund would be heartbroken :(
RationalAtheist
My hound has attachment issues, since we are together for most of the time. When I go out and leave him, he whines constantly, then always does a sulking act by pinning his ears back and giving me hard-done-by looks when I get home.
Boris, earlier today.
Dawwww he looks so much like my old rot weiler.:(I'll probably get a border collie, because the border collie that my step-dad owns is one of the nicest dogs I've ever met.Yep, they certainly can be. I treat all my dogs exceptionally well, and make sure they are well looked after, and they are fantastic. Certain breeds are attention-hungry (my Dachshund) and some are independent (the family Labrador).
So long as you have the time available, you should totally get a dog. There are breeds for all people (different temperaments, sizes and shedding degrees).
lundy86_4
[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] The good thing is that most dogs are very loyal and loving. In fact, that's the main reason I want a dog.TwistedShade
My hound has attachment issues, since we are together for most of the time. When I go out and leave him, he whines constantly, then always does a sulking act by pinning his ears back and giving me hard-done-by looks when I get home.
Boris, earlier today.
Dawwww he looks so much like my old rot weiler.:(I've got a Rottie, they're great family dogs. I honestly don't know why people fear them so much. Anyway that's a great pic.
Sad story though.
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]I'll probably get a border collie, because the border collie that my step-dad owns is one of the nicest dogs I've ever met.Yep, they certainly can be. I treat all my dogs exceptionally well, and make sure they are well looked after, and they are fantastic. Certain breeds are attention-hungry (my Dachshund) and some are independent (the family Labrador).
So long as you have the time available, you should totally get a dog. There are breeds for all people (different temperaments, sizes and shedding degrees).
ghoklebutter
Absolutely lovely dogs. I was always a big dog guy, until my ex got a mini-Dachshund named "Sushi"... Since then, I got my own named "Moca".
Border Collies are great dogs, i've known a number of people with them. I grew up in the UK before I emigrated, where many of my friends were from farming families.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seems unlikely...lundy86_4
Why?
Because animals really don't have long memories...[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seems unlikely...LJS9502_basic
Why?
Because animals really don't have long memories... Perhaps the master's scent played a role, and then the dog just remembered where the scent came from. Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Because animals really don't have long memories... Perhaps the master's scent played a role, and then the dog just remembered where the scent came from. Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.Why?
ghoklebutter
like i said, the original famous dog hanging round the grave story, greyfriars bobby, 14 years, theres statues and alsorts round edinburgh
come back when you've got an actual story argies...
As a former owner of three cats, I can safely say that, while cats can be cruel and selfish, they can also be absolutely wonderful creatures. For instance, my oldest cat once saved my brother from being bitten by a spider. And the same cat also used to bring in dead birds as gifts - of course, those so-called gifts were disgusting, but it was still heartwarming. Cats do that when they want to either "teach" others to hunt or reward them.awesome. let's see cats do that. dogs>cats :P
rocinante_
Incoming rant but there's not much more to say to this topic anyway. Slightly... off-topic:
I remember a thread on Gamespot which basically said: If you had rescue either a complete stranger or your dog, which one would you rescue?
This is why I get so frustrated. Because so many in that thread claimed to own a dog yet they didn't hesitate at all to rescue the stranger instead. A pet, and especially a dog, *should* (because as I just mentioned, most don't give a **** about them) be like a family member. The article is yet another example of how wonderful dogs are and I believe there was not too long ago, some article how a dog rescued a child or so from a burning house yeah? Look how loving and loyal these are, yet most dog owners wouldn't hesitate a second to just throw them away or take their life for all kind of petty, selfish, greedy reasons.
For some reason, many claim these animals hold little value, like mere objects, just because they can't reason properly or because they can't calculate squareroots and what not. This is the case for all animals, another thing that springs to mind is a magazine, a sender asked the magazine what they should do with their troublesome cat. Apparently, the family had a kitten, that wouldn't stop biting them and they considered whether they should put the kitten down or not, messed up really. But to me, those people are inferior in my eyes. :evil:
So quick to start thinking about putting it down, there's crap loads of explanations and solutions but while human tend to go out of their way to find reasons for human to live ("sure he killed 90~ people but he might be rehabilitated if he gets to stay in a hotel room omg he must liveeeeee") but it's the opposite for animals, as soon as things don't go their way, they just start to look for reasons to put the little sucker down. ("omg, a kitten is playing with me, should he die?")
So to bump this old topic: I'd rescue the dog because it's a loved family member that really appreciates me and there is no way I could be cold enough to stab that loyal little guy in the back only to rescue a total stranger which most likely would respond "money" to the question "would you rescue a stranger or receive billions of money". I don't see how a total stranger could possibly hold more value than a loved family member.
Incoming rant but there's not much more to say to this topic anyway. Slightly... off-topic:
I remember a thread on Gamespot which basically said: If you had rescue either a complete stranger or your dog, which one would you rescue?
This is why I get so frustrated. Because so many in that thread claimed to own a dog yet they didn't hesitate at all to rescue the stranger instead. A pet, and especially a dog, *should* (because as I just mentioned, most don't give a **** about them) be like a family member. The article is yet another example of how wonderful dogs are and I believe there was not too long ago, some article how a dog rescued a child or so from a burning house yeah? Look how loving and loyal these are, yet most dog owners wouldn't hesitate a second to just throw them away or take their life for all kind of petty, selfish, greedy reasons.
For some reason, many claim these animals hold little value, like mere objects, just because they can't reason properly or because they can't calculate squareroots and what not. This is the case for all animals, another thing that springs to mind is a magazine, a sender asked the magazine what they should do with their troublesome cat. Apparently, the family had a kitten, that wouldn't stop biting them and they considered whether they should put the kitten down or not, messed up really. But to me, those people are inferior in my eyes. :evil:So quick to start thinking about putting it down, there's crap loads of explanations and solutions but while human tend to go out of their way to find reasons for human to live ("sure he killed 90~ people but he might be rehabilitated if he gets to stay in a hotel room omg he must liveeeeee") but it's the opposite for animals, as soon as things don't go their way, they just start to look for reasons to put the little sucker down. ("omg, a kitten is playing with me, should he die?")
So to bump this old topic: I'd rescue the dog because it's a loved family member that really appreciates me and there is no way I could be cold enough to stab that loyal little guy in the back only to rescue a total stranger which most likely would respond "money" to the question "would you rescue a stranger or receive billions of money". I don't see how a total stranger could possibly hold more value than a loved family member.xWoW_Rougex
Very good point. When you really think about it, the tendency to favor a human life over an animal life in this situation is just arbitrary. I've always thought the same thing regarding my cats; it never made sense for me to only care about getting my human family members out of, say, a burning house. Anthropocentrism is silly.
I think the main reason behind this absurd judgment is that most people actually don't care about their pets as much as they claim to. Or maybe they just care about their pets for purely selfish reasons.
Incoming rant but there's not much more to say to this topic anyway. Slightly... off-topic:
I remember a thread on Gamespot which basically said: If you had rescue either a complete stranger or your dog, which one would you rescue?
This is why I get so frustrated. Because so many in that thread claimed to own a dog yet they didn't hesitate at all to rescue the stranger instead. A pet, and especially a dog, *should* (because as I just mentioned, most don't give a **** about them) be like a family member. The article is yet another example of how wonderful dogs are and I believe there was not too long ago, some article how a dog rescued a child or so from a burning house yeah? Look how loving and loyal these are, yet most dog owners wouldn't hesitate a second to just throw them away or take their life for all kind of petty, selfish, greedy reasons.
For some reason, many claim these animals hold little value, like mere objects, just because they can't reason properly or because they can't calculate squareroots and what not. This is the case for all animals, another thing that springs to mind is a magazine, a sender asked the magazine what they should do with their troublesome cat. Apparently, the family had a kitten, that wouldn't stop biting them and they considered whether they should put the kitten down or not, messed up really. But to me, those people are inferior in my eyes. :evil:
So quick to start thinking about putting it down, there's crap loads of explanations and solutions but while human tend to go out of their way to find reasons for human to live ("sure he killed 90~ people but he might be rehabilitated if he gets to stay in a hotel room omg he must liveeeeee") but it's the opposite for animals, as soon as things don't go their way, they just start to look for reasons to put the little sucker down. ("omg, a kitten is playing with me, should he die?")
So to bump this old topic: I'd rescue the dog because it's a loved family member that really appreciates me and there is no way I could be cold enough to stab that loyal little guy in the back only to rescue a total stranger which most likely would respond "money" to the question "would you rescue a stranger or receive billions of money". I don't see how a total stranger could possibly hold more value than a loved family member.
Perhaps the master's scent played a role, and then the dog just remembered where the scent came from. Maybe I'm assuming too much, though.[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Because animals really don't have long memories...villa4europe
like i said, the original famous dog hanging round the grave story, greyfriars bobby, 14 years, theres statues and alsorts round edinburgh
come back when you've got an actual story argies...
Bobby was a publicity stunt to bring in tourists, the people in Edinburgh of course refused to acknolewdge that since the city wanted to be known for at least SOMETHING. :P[QUOTE="xWoW_Rougex"]letting the other person fall to their death..CreasianDevaili
I can either pick between a loved family member that I know ,although more naive and not as intelligent as a human being, is a good, happy, loyal and loving being. Or I could pick the stranger, and let's face it, most human are ignorant, hateful, greedy and selfish and this proof is all around us, including me and you as well. Just take a look at System Wars or the middle east or pretty much any place. This is why I like animals, no backstabbing or dirty schemes or hidden agendas, they're more simple and I like that.
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
Basically here's how it goes:
Either I can save the dog and the person will die, in that case, I'll never know what kind of person it was but most likely some kind of family would be sad.
Or...
I can save the human, and the human might turn out to be a complete tool (or not) and guess what? Me and my family will be mourning instead.
Again:
Dog : me + family = happy, some family will *probably* be sad.
Human: Me and my family would be sad, other family will be happy.
So once again:
Dog: one family will be happy, guaranteed good being saved
Human: one family will be sad, possibly bad person saved.
Clear choice to me.
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
xWoW_Rougex
Why would you assume that he's a douchebag? Would you rather save someone that would likely die in a few years, or someone who has a lot of years in front of them? Because dogs don't live as long as humans do...
[QUOTE="xWoW_Rougex"]
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
bloodling
Why would you assume that he's a douchebag?
Would you rather save someone that would likely die in a few years, or someone who has a lot of years in front of them? Because dogs don't live as long as humans do...
Oh, that statement wasn't specifically refering to this whole "complete stranger" thing. I was just adding another kind of a follow up question, assuming it wasn't a stranger, and it actually was a total douchebag, you'd still save the douchebag anyway?
As for the age question, it's a pretty good point actually but I still stand by what I said in my last post, no matter the age of those involved. (about the whole guarnateed good dog and loved family member vs saving a stranger).
Anyway all of that was just about a fictional story anyway but the point is that I think that humans are sometimes valued too high while animals too low, wish it would be equal'd out a bit.
Oh, that statement wasn't specifically refering to this whole "complete stranger" thing. I was just adding another kind of a follow up question, assuming it wasn't a stranger, and it actually was a total douchebag, you'd still save the douchebag anyway?
xWoW_Rougex
If I considered that person a douchebag, I would still save them, no question about it.
Anyway all of that was just about a fictional story anyway but the point is that I think that humans are sometimes valued too high while animals too low, wish it would be equal'd out a bit.
xWoW_Rougex
I value animal life very highly, but I value human life even more.
So where does it release it's bowels when it has to "go"? I bet the guy beside him likes being the fire hydrant.Pittfan666
Maybe there's a grave of a mailman nearby?
[QUOTE="xWoW_Rougex"]
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
bloodling
Why would you assume that he's a douchebag? Would you rather save someone that would likely die in a few years, or someone who has a lot of years in front of them? Because dogs don't live as long as humans do...
by that logic saving a random crow is also prior to saving stephen hawking.because the crow is most likely going to live longer.[QUOTE="bloodling"][QUOTE="xWoW_Rougex"]
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
VaguelyTagged
Why would you assume that he's a douchebag? Would you rather save someone that would likely die in a few years, or someone who has a lot of years in front of them? Because dogs don't live as long as humans do...
by that logic saving a random a random crow is also prior to saving stephen hawking.because the crow is most likely going to live longer.There's obviously more to it than that. I went on to say that I consider human life to be more valuable than an animal's life in a later post.
i think hachi is on netflix now.
it's the story of the akita Hachikothat waited at the train station for 9 years for his masters return.
his memorial.
dogs are wonderful animals.
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seems unlikely...LJS9502_basic
Why?
Because animals really don't have long memories...Maybe we know less about animals than we, with our usual superiority stance, believe.
letting the other person fall to their death..[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="xWoW_Rougex"]
xWoW_Rougex
I can either pick between a loved family member that I know ,although more naive and not as intelligent as a human being, is a good, happy, loyal and loving being. Or I could pick the stranger, and let's face it, most human are ignorant, hateful, greedy and selfish and this proof is all around us, including me and you as well. Just take a look at System Wars or the middle east or pretty much any place. This is why I like animals, no backstabbing or dirty schemes or hidden agendas, they're more simple and I like that.
Can you tell me why I should prioritize the human? Just because it's a human, because we're the same race? You'd save a complete douchebag instead? Why?
Basically here's how it goes:
Either I can save the dog and the person will die, in that case, I'll never know what kind of person it was but most likely some kind of family would be sad.
Or...
I can save the human, and the human might turn out to be a complete tool (or not) and guess what? Me and my family will be mourning instead.
Again:
Dog : me + family = happy, some family will *probably* be sad.
Human: Me and my family would be sad, other family will be happy.
So once again:
Dog: one family will be happy, guaranteed good being saved
Human: one family will be sad, possibly bad person saved.
Clear choice to me.
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