Army Vs. Marines - Which is best for me after college?

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#1 Rynair9
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Im in my junior year of college, Im studying criminal justice and mass communication. I am dead set on joining the service after i graduate. I dont know what to choose for a branch, i only want to go to either army or marines, Which one is better for me overall?
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#2 Hey_Jay
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I think the Marines are the best choice for you. But that's just me.
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#3 Robertoey
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I've heard Marines complain about not getting the same toys as the army while on tour but I have no idea how much truth there is to this, if any at all.
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#4 DivergeUnify
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I can't tell you, but I would assume people who can tell you/reccomend you need some more info
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I've heard Marines complain about not getting the same toys as the army while on tour but I have no idea how much truth there is to this, if any at all.Robertoey
That's not really relevant
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#6 Termite3030
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Alot of the roles are more blurred then they were in times past. You'll see Army soldiers and Marines working side by side alot more often. You should talk to recruiters from both branches about what it is you want to be. Do you want to work in a supportive role, or maybe fighting on the front line? It depends on what you want to do.
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#7 N8A
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i was going to say the marines too, but i'm biased since i have 2 brothers that are active and one that is out working in the private sector
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#8 Iced_Earth_Rulz
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Air Force!!!
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#9 Termite3030
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I had a brother in the Marine Corp. years ago. I have another Army brother who just finish his second tour in Iraq a few months back.
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Marines FTW. That's what I was going to go into, but then I kept my scholarship in college and I stayed in college for another year.
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Whoever will pay off your student loans faster.
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#12 GrindingAxe
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ARMY = Ain't Ready for Marines Yet
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#13 N8A
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ARMY = Ain't Ready for Marines YetGrindingAxe
LULZ I hadnt heard that before.
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I'd go with the army.
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neither the Un is involved now so i say stay close and go with the coast guard
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#16 Montaya
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It depends what you want. All i know is if you want a career in the military, become an officer through OCS but make sure you meet the requirements first. If you want to get all gun ho join the marines and fight with the best and try not to die :|
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Air Force!!!Iced_Earth_Rulz
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I'm currently involved in the Army ROTC at my university, and I would say you should apply for a scholarship with them by doing ROTC.

That's just me though.

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Im in my junior year of college, Im studying criminal justice and mass communication. I am dead set on joining the service after i graduate. I dont know what to choose for a branch, i only want to go to either army or marines, Which one is better for me overall? Rynair9

Since you're already a junior, ROTC would be really hard to catch up with. I would recommend joining the Army because the career path for an officer is much easier, and having a college degree will help greatly. From what I remember if you have a college degree you can apply right away for OCS after BCT.

Unfortunetly they don't have officers if you are military police (MOS 31b), so you would have to find another job if you wanted to become an officer. Eitherway any military experience looks really well if you want a job in any type of criminal justice job.

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#20 DarkPrinceXC
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I'm almost done with my contract for the Marine Corps. I've been in for 3 1/2 years, so I'm a little bias. I've loved my time in, but one of the posters above is right. If you do go with the Marine Corps, you most likely will not get the same technical experience as the Army. They're obviously a much larger branch of the military, and therefore get way more money to spend. If you want to work with the latest technology, the Army/Air Force is probably a better bet, especially with Mass Comm.....
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#21 Sajo7
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Why do you want to go in the armed forces?

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#22 IrishPunk
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Why do you want to go in the armed forces?

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Why wouldn't you want to join the Armed Forces? If you're are going to come back at me with the whole "because you can die" there are a lot of jobs like that, especially if you are working in criminal justice field. There are also many MOS (Military Occupational Specialtys) that offer little to no combat requirement beyond what you learn at basic combat training/bootcamp.

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

Why do you want to go in the armed forces?

IrishPunk

Why wouldn't you want to join the Armed Forces? If you're are going to come back at me with the whole "because you can die" there are a lot of jobs like that, especially if you are working in criminal justice field. There are also many MOS (Military Occupational Specialtys) that offer little to no combat requirement beyond what you learn at basic combat training/bootcamp.

And even in the Combat MOS', you're not guaranteed to see combat. I'm an 0311 (Rifleman). 2 deployments, never saw combat. It happens. Hell, there's a lot of jobs in the military where you never even leave the States.....

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it depends on what you want to do in the service.

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#25 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

Why do you want to go in the armed forces?

IrishPunk

Why wouldn't you want to join the Armed Forces? If you're are going to come back at me with the whole "because you can die" there are a lot of jobs like that, especially if you are working in criminal justice field. There are also many MOS (Military Occupational Specialtys) that offer little to no combat requirement beyond what you learn at basic combat training/bootcamp.

I didn't say "why would he want to join." :|

There are many reasons to join the armed forces, I want to know his.

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#26 comp_atkins
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ARMY = Ain't Ready for Marines YetGrindingAxe

:lol: "ain't" is not even english.. thats the marines for ya :wink:

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[QUOTE="GrindingAxe"]ARMY = Ain't Ready for Marines Yetcomp_atkins

:lol: "ain't" is not even english.. thats the marines for ya :wink:

I'd be lying to you if I said the majority of Marines are some of the most intelligent people I have encountered in my lifetime.

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#28 dainsanereview
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marines
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I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

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#30 Gayboy_basic
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id go with the navy personally
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Marines, quote from Family guy.."Those are the men girls want to ****"". End quote.
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Do both branches help you out with college? Like let you study while serving or help you out with financial aid.
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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]Im in my junior year of college, Im studying criminal justice and mass communication. I am dead set on joining the service after i graduate. I dont know what to choose for a branch, i only want to go to either army or marines, Which one is better for me overall? IrishPunk

Since you're already a junior, ROTC would be really hard to catch up with. I would recommend joining the Army because the career path for an officer is much easier, and having a college degree will help greatly. From what I remember if you have a college degree you can apply right away for OCS after BCT.

Unfortunetly they don't have officers if you are military police (MOS 31b), so you would have to find another job if you wanted to become an officer. Eitherway any military experience looks really well if you want a job in any type of criminal justice job.

I agree.

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[QUOTE="Rynair9"]Im in my junior year of college, Im studying criminal justice and mass communication. I am dead set on joining the service after i graduate. I dont know what to choose for a branch, i only want to go to either army or marines, Which one is better for me overall? IrishPunk

Since you're already a junior, ROTC would be really hard to catch up with. I would recommend joining the Army because the career path for an officer is much easier, and having a college degree will help greatly. From what I remember if you have a college degree you can apply right away for OCS after BCT.

Unfortunetly they don't have officers if you are military police (MOS 31b), so you would have to find another job if you wanted to become an officer. Eitherway any military experience looks really well if you want a job in any type of criminal justice job.

I agree.

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Do both branches help you out with college? Like let you study while serving or help you out with financial aid. IncipioAnima

You probably won't be able to do college classes while you're in the military. It is possible, but extremely hard. Once you've done 4 years, you'll get a check each month after you register for college, and it totals out to be around $80,000. It use to be $40,000, but it just doubled a few months ago. FYI John McCain is against these benefits. Plus if you're a resident of Illinois, and you leave for the military from there, you'll get 4 years of college completely free. So I'm going to college for free, and I'll have $80,000 to use for housing. Not a bad deal.

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Air Force!!!Iced_Earth_Rulz


Agreed.
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[QUOTE="IncipioAnima"]Do both branches help you out with college? Like let you study while serving or help you out with financial aid. DarkPrinceXC

You probably won't be able to do college classes while you're in the military. It is possible, but extremely hard. Once you've done 4 years, you'll get a check each month after you register for college, and it totals out to be around $80,000. It use to be $40,000, but it just doubled a few months ago. FYI John McCain is against these benefits. Plus if you're a resident of Illinois, and you leave for the military from there, you'll get 4 years of college completely free. So I'm going to college for free, and I'll have $80,000 to use for housing. Not a bad deal.

That's awesome, thanks for answering. And yet another reason why I won't vote McCain D:

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I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

Truth_Seekr

Those are for people with proved self reliance, self discipline and vast amounts of training/selection. Only special forces would do such a mission, and even then not too many would make you go it alone.

SAS or Delta Force/Navy Seals aren't groups which you can just "sign up" to join.

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the marines are the first to go into battle. the army goes in after to clean up and / or give support. which do you want?
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well, I have a cousin who works for Galls who is one of the big contractors for equipment to the US Armed Forces. From what he's told me the Marines gets most of the financing in terms of where equipment is being sent and so forth. Of course this is all his words and research, not mine...so take that for what you will.
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army then if you can go in for ranger training, fastest way up the promotion ladder also if you're in training for longer you're getting shot at less
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Check the ratings of each branch and then choose what ratings you'd like.

That's how I chose Navy.

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id go with the navy personallyGayboy_basic

I doubt you'll last long here with that username

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#44 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

Leejjohno

Those are for people with proved self reliance, self discipline and vast amounts of training/selection. Only special forces would do such a mission, and even then not too many would make you go it alone.

SAS or Delta Force/Navy Seals aren't groups which you can just "sign up" to join.

for delta force i;'ve heard that you have to go through ranger training straight after regular army training then proove yourself in the field

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[QUOTE="IncipioAnima"]Do both branches help you out with college? Like let you study while serving or help you out with financial aid. DarkPrinceXC

You probably won't be able to do college classes while you're in the military. It is possible, but extremely hard. Once you've done 4 years, you'll get a check each month after you register for college, and it totals out to be around $80,000. It use to be $40,000, but it just doubled a few months ago. FYI John McCain is against these benefits. Plus if you're a resident of Illinois, and you leave for the military from there, you'll get 4 years of college completely free. So I'm going to college for free, and I'll have $80,000 to use for housing. Not a bad deal.

they should also give a pretty good resume for you if you decide to leave

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army then if you can go in for ranger training, fastest way up the promotion ladder also if you're in training for longer you're getting shot at lessmarkop2003

If I joined an armed service I would like to have a contact at least once... Preferably where we shoot first though.
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[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

Leejjohno

Those are for people with proved self reliance, self discipline and vast amounts of training/selection. Only special forces would do such a mission, and even then not too many would make you go it alone.

SAS or Delta Force/Navy Seals aren't groups which you can just "sign up" to join.

Of course not, that's for a professional soldier or likewise we're talking about. But I think it'd be beyond cool to be a "splinter cell", so to speak.

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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

markop2003

Those are for people with proved self reliance, self discipline and vast amounts of training/selection. Only special forces would do such a mission, and even then not too many would make you go it alone.

SAS or Delta Force/Navy Seals aren't groups which you can just "sign up" to join.

for delta force i;'ve heard that you have to go through ranger training straight after regular army training then proove yourself in the field

I'm not sure really, I made an assumption because I read that Delta were originally devised as special forces but trained by SAS veterans to start with. SAS however have a very difficult selection process designed to remove any of the people who are just there to kill time, or think it's a cake walk. In fact a number of people have died in the selection process in the past. One particular exercises that you have to pass is interrogation, where you are placed in stress positions for long periods of time or made to stand up blind folded against the wall listening to white noise for at worst 6 hour periods, in intervals and eventually getting interrogated.

I wouldn't be surprised if Delta was a bit more quantity orientated though.

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#49 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

I wouldn't join any branch of the military, but if anything, Marines or whatever branch gets you to do them one man black ops missions

Truth_Seekr

Those are for people with proved self reliance, self discipline and vast amounts of training/selection. Only special forces would do such a mission, and even then not too many would make you go it alone.

SAS or Delta Force/Navy Seals aren't groups which you can just "sign up" to join.

Of course not, that's for a professional soldier or likewise we're talking about. But I think it'd be beyond cool to be a "splinter cell", so to speak.

I would have to agree, but I would be a tad worried about being compromised lol... I don't know why fisher didn't just dress like his enemies, that would have made his life a little easier.

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just so you know, the training for these special units like navy seals are brutal. they have an 85% drop out rate.