As a result of smoking being banned in france

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But since the ban happened on 1-Jan (prior to that there was a light ban in public places), there has been a decline of 15% in myocardal infarction and brain embolisms.s/loser/index.html

Let's hope we see this soon in the U.S. :D

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Ransmises Friday, February 22 at the Department of Health, the latest data for the monthly indicator of smoking show a drop of about 15% in the incidence of myocardial infarction and stroke. This phenomenon seems to be directly related to the banning of smoking in public places, which came into force on January 1. The same indicator had not highlighted such reduction after prohibition measures taken as of February 1, 2007, not related to cafes and restaurants. The indicator used was developed by the National Institute for Prevention and Health Education (Inpes), the Institute of Health Surveillance (InVS), the french Observatory for Drugs and Drug Addiction (OFDT), Monitoring the indoor air quality (OQAI) and the Directorate General of Health.

It consists of a series of health parameters concerning exposure to tobacco smoke, smoking and its effects on health. The measures taken a year ago have resulted in a decline of 80% of exposure to fine particles in places. They have however been no effect on sales of cigarettes and virtually no effect on the number of sevrages smoking. No measurable effect had been highlighted by public health indicators. That is not the case since January 1 and the ban on smoking in cafes, hotels, restaurants or nightclubs. "We observe in these establishments an improvement of about 80% on indicators of exposure," says Dr. Bertrand Dautzenberg (service-lung resuscitation, group Hospitalier Pitié-Salpêtrière, Paris), responsible for coordinating the monitoring in this area.

While more than half of the premises visited exceeded the maximum rate permitted for fine particulate matter air quality in cities, there are more than 12% of overspending. This shows that tobacco smoke was well the primary cause of pollution of these premises by the fine particles. " "ENCOURAGEMENT OF SIZE" Professor Dautzenberg does not hide his surprise at the impact of these measures on public health: a decrease very significantly - between 11% and 19% - of hospital admissions for myocardial infarction. This phenomenon has recently been highlighted in Italy, where smoking is prohibited in public places since 2005.

French Specialists also note a decline in the same proportions, rates of emergency admissions for stroke, as well as a decrease in the frequency of respiratory symptoms and eye-sector employees in hotels and restaurants. For it is surprising by its speed, the phenomenon is easily explained, the active or passive inhalation of tobacco smoke have the effect of modifying certain parameters of blood clotting and to facilitate the establishment of thrombosis.

Experts say that the other benefits on respiratory disease and cancers broncho-pulmonary, can be identified later. The effects of the new measures on smoking cessation (estimated via the calls for Tobacco Info Service, the number of new patients attending smoking and the use of products cessation aid) are however little obvious. "It is essential to confirm within two months ahead for the benefit cardiovascular health of the French, says Prof.

Dautzenberg. In any event, these results constitute an encouragement for size that we continue to strictly implement the measures in force in all sectors. " These data should be taken into account by those involved in the discussion, at the request of Nicolas Sarkozy, on possible relaxations - claimed by tobacconists - the new provisions prohibiting the use of tobacco in all public places, including areas where it is sold.

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But since the ban happened on 1-Jan (prior to that there was a light ban in public places), there has been a decline of 15% in myocardal infarction and brain embolisms.s/loser/index.html

Let's hope we see this soon in the U.S. :D

yoshi-lnex

doesn't really matter if they do. it's not as if tobacco isn;t something that you can't grow in a closet.

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

That's good news I guess.

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

its_me_

Notably, those do cause less damage to socioty, so logically smoking should be illegal too.

[QUOTE="its_me_"]

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

yoshi-lnex

Notably, those do cause less damage to socioty, so logically smoking should be illegal too.

Could not the same thing be said for certain types of foods out there? For example, fast-food joints?

What exactly is a "light ban"?blackngold29

That's where it's legal to smoke a cigarette, but it's illegal to light one. Better not get caught with a lighter :P

I think 2 months is a little early to say they've seena 15% decrease. Come back after a year or two and tout the results.

What exactly is a "light ban"?blackngold29

People should have to right to put into their bodies whatever they please including poisons if they are not hurting anyone else. gobo212

I think that is the point, the second hand smoke is harmful to those around the smoker. Now if someonewants to smoke something else....

[QUOTE="gobo212"]People should have to right to put into their bodies whatever they please including poisons if they are not hurting anyone else. Poedon

I think that is the point, the second hand smoke is harmful to those around the smoker. Now if someonewants to smoke something else....

Right but some are saying it should be outright illegal which I strongly disagree with. Also I'm not against banning it in public places but it seems to me if a bar owner wants to allow smoking in his establishment he should be able to.

[QUOTE="Poedon"]

[QUOTE="gobo212"]People should have to right to put into their bodies whatever they please including poisons if they are not hurting anyone else. gobo212

I think that is the point, the second hand smoke is harmful to those around the smoker. Now if someonewants to smoke something else....

Right but some are saying it should be outright illegal which I strongly disagree with. Also I'm not against banning it in public places but it seems to me if a bar owner wants to allow smoking in his establishment he should be able to.

[QUOTE="Poedon"]

[QUOTE="gobo212"]People should have to right to put into their bodies whatever they please including poisons if they are not hurting anyone else. gobo212

I think that is the point, the second hand smoke is harmful to those around the smoker. Now if someonewants to smoke something else....

Right but some are saying it should be outright illegal which I strongly disagree with. Also I'm not against banning it in public places but it seems to me if a bar owner wants to allow smoking in his establishment he should be able to.

I agree. Some pubs would be smoking and others would be non-smoking. This way you could get all of the drunkards money. the smoking drunks, and the non-smoking drunks :P

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="its_me_"]

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

Link256

Notably, those do cause less damage to socioty, so logically smoking should be illegal too.

Could not the same thing be said for certain types of foods out there? For example, fast-food joints?

People should have to right to put into their bodies whatever they please including poisons if they are not hurting anyone else. gobo212

I'd rather die in a free society from cigs I didn't smoke than live forever in a society where individual freedom isn't respected.Merkaba-

[QUOTE="its_me_"]

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

yoshi-lnex

Notably, those do cause less damage to socioty, so logically smoking should be illegal too.

So then going by that, all types of tobacco should be banned as well, not just smoking tobacco. Maybe even alcohol altogether!!!

Sweet!

I have been hesitant to suggest a ban here after what happened with the prohibition of alcohol, but hell giving smokers a tough time is always a good thing. So sick of rude people blowing smoke in my face. Good way to thank people for my severe asthma which I developed as a kid thanks to so much exposure to cigarette smoke....

Sweet!

I have been hesitant to suggest a ban here after what happened with the prohibition of alcohol, but hell giving smokers a tough time is always a good thing. So sick of rude people blowing smoke in my face. Good way to thank people for my severe asthma which I developed as a kid thanks to so much exposure to cigarette smoke....

Thechaninator

First Floyd is "insanely overrated" now this?! You sir have no soul...

Rude people are still going to be rude. As far as a ban in NA, it's stupid to even consider it. All we'll do is turn innocent citizens into criminals and give organized crime another avenue for funding.

This is cool. I also hope we see this in America.

People complaining: They aren't making it completely illegal, but just in public places. Face the facts: People don't want to smell your godforsaken smoke breath, and you have no right to poison everyone around you by smoking something that can be easily done outside, away from people.

Tobacco should be completely illegal, but this is a start.

Some of you seem to have missed the point. Its in PUBLIC PLACES. You can still buy them in loads of places, just not smoke them

They did this here in the UK. Its so much nicer to go into a gig, and not have the person next to you light up, then coming home with Ciggy burns + Stinking of smoke.

Thats my two cents.

Some of you seem to have missed the point. Its in PUBLIC PLACES. You can still buy them in loads of places, just not smoke them

They did this here in the UK. Its so much nicer to go into a gig, and not have the person next to you light up, then coming home with Ciggy burns + Stinking of smoke.

Thats my two cents.

pepperman33

It's also happened in several states in America. I cheered when Florida passed that law.

Here in Florida they banned it from bars and restaurants. I'd like the state to ban it from apartments with shared ventilation. But that is as far as they should take it.

If people want to suck on cancer sticks, that's their right.

We can't ban it. Too many people would go bat****, but we should place heavier restrictions on where you can smoke. I see people smoking in No Smoking areas all the time.

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But since the ban happened on 1-Jan (prior to that there was a light ban in public places), there has been a decline of 15% in myocardal infarction and brain embolisms.s/loser/index.html

Let's hope we see this soon in the U.S. :D

link fixed

article translated

Ransmises Friday, February 22 at the Department of Health, the latest data for the monthly indicator of smoking show a drop of about 15% in the incidence of myocardial infarction and stroke. This phenomenon seems to be directly related to the banning of smoking in public places, which came into force on January 1. The same indicator had not highlighted such reduction after prohibition measures taken as of February 1, 2007, not related to cafes and restaurants. The indicator used was developed by the National Institute for Prevention and Health Education (Inpes), the Institute of Health Surveillance (InVS), the french Observatory for Drugs and Drug Addiction (OFDT), Monitoring the indoor air quality (OQAI) and the Directorate General of Health.

It consists of a series of health parameters concerning exposure to tobacco smoke, smoking and its effects on health. The measures taken a year ago have resulted in a decline of 80% of exposure to fine particles in places. They have however been no effect on sales of cigarettes and virtually no effect on the number of sevrages smoking. No measurable effect had been highlighted by public health indicators. That is not the case since January 1 and the ban on smoking in cafes, hotels, restaurants or nightclubs. "We observe in these establishments an improvement of about 80% on indicators of exposure," says Dr. Bertrand Dautzenberg (service-lung resuscitation, group Hospitalier Pitié-Salpêtrière, Paris), responsible for coordinating the monitoring in this area.

While more than half of the premises visited exceeded the maximum rate permitted for fine particulate matter air quality in cities, there are more than 12% of overspending. This shows that tobacco smoke was well the primary cause of pollution of these premises by the fine particles. " "ENCOURAGEMENT OF SIZE" Professor Dautzenberg does not hide his surprise at the impact of these measures on public health: a decrease very significantly - between 11% and 19% - of hospital admissions for myocardial infarction. This phenomenon has recently been highlighted in Italy, where smoking is prohibited in public places since 2005.

French Specialists also note a decline in the same proportions, rates of emergency admissions for stroke, as well as a decrease in the frequency of respiratory symptoms and eye-sector employees in hotels and restaurants. For it is surprising by its speed, the phenomenon is easily explained, the active or passive inhalation of tobacco smoke have the effect of modifying certain parameters of blood clotting and to facilitate the establishment of thrombosis.

Experts say that the other benefits on respiratory disease and cancers broncho-pulmonary, can be identified later. The effects of the new measures on smoking cessation (estimated via the calls for Tobacco Info Service, the number of new patients attending smoking and the use of products cessation aid) are however little obvious. "It is essential to confirm within two months ahead for the benefit cardiovascular health of the French, says Prof.

Dautzenberg. In any event, these results constitute an encouragement for size that we continue to strictly implement the measures in force in all sectors. " These data should be taken into account by those involved in the discussion, at the request of Nicolas Sarkozy, on possible relaxations - claimed by tobacconists - the new provisions prohibiting the use of tobacco in all public places, including areas where it is sold.

yoshi-lnex

It wont happen in the US, and im glad it wont. Because people have the right to live their own individual lives anyway they see fit. Screw the government, and screw what THEY want.

[QUOTE="pepperman33"]

Some of you seem to have missed the point. Its in PUBLIC PLACES. You can still buy them in loads of places, just not smoke them

They did this here in the UK. Its so much nicer to go into a gig, and not have the person next to you light up, then coming home with Ciggy burns + Stinking of smoke.

Thats my two cents.

Dracargen

It's also happened in several states in America. I cheered when Florida passed that law.

I live in Florida, and I'm pretty sure that smoking is still allowed in establishments that don't get more than a certain percentage of their revenue from food sales. Because there are any number of bars that I go to where public smoking is 100% allowed.

They banned smoking in France? They might as well ban french bread with wine and cheese!Darth_Tyrev

Actually, good sir, what you just described is the perfect example of The French Paradox. It is the reason why French people can eat high-fat foods and carbohydrates and still remain skinny.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="pepperman33"]

Some of you seem to have missed the point. Its in PUBLIC PLACES. You can still buy them in loads of places, just not smoke them

They did this here in the UK. Its so much nicer to go into a gig, and not have the person next to you light up, then coming home with Ciggy burns + Stinking of smoke.

Thats my two cents.

MrGeezer

It's also happened in several states in America. I cheered when Florida passed that law.

I live in Florida, and I'm pretty sure that smoking is still allowed in establishments that don't get more than a certain percentage of their revenue from food sales. Because there are any number of bars that I go to where public smoking is 100% allowed.

I believe some bars can allow smoking, but I haven't seen it in any restaraunt since it was passed.

Yeah, they did that sort of thing in a couple counties around here in MD. Maybe it's all of MD?

Also, you can't smoke in bars in NY. That's so funny to me.

Did France ban smoking entirely or just in certain areas?mrbojangles25

They banned it from railways and offices and the like. And in a year, it'll be banned from bars and restaurants. So, they're behind the US, not ahead of, in terms of anti-smoking.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Did France ban smoking entirely or just in certain areas?Jandurin

They banned it from railways and offices and the like. And in a year, it'll be banned from bars and restaurants. So, they're behind the US, not ahead of, in terms of anti-smoking.

Those new anti smoking commercials where they sing and dance are funny as hell.
I don't care what your opinion is, those tunes are catchy.

Those new anti smoking commercials where they sing and dance are funny as hell.
I don't care what your opinion is, those tunes are catchy.-TheSecondSign-

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]Those new anti smoking commercials where they sing and dance are funny as hell.
I don't care what your opinion is, those tunes are catchy.Jandurin

I can't finds it. :(

Ah yes lets drive away from our freedom even more and say you can't smoke anymore! Or this or this. Its BAAAAADDDD for you! As stupid as it sounds, if I or someone else wants to smoke let them, if I don't want to wear my seatbelt in a car let me etc. The age limit on smoking is good enough.... should happen in the U.S. .... :|darkfox101

That is the most idiotic thing to say. Actually your whole post is ridiculous. Wearing your seatbelt is law and is designed to SAVE YOUR LIFE in the event of an accident. Also they aren't banning smoking altogether. They are just banning smoking in public places, like resturaunts and such.

You can smoke, I don't have any problem with someone smoking. But I don't need you poisioning my lungs and shortening my lifespan not to mention making me always reek of smoke. Smoking should definitely be restricted to outside and designated smoking areas. Also the fast food argument is null. If someone eats fast food beside me do I get uncomfortable? Or start coughing? Or smell really bad? Are they endangering me? No. But a smoker is and does.

And if you were being sarcastic, just ignore that whole post...

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]Those new anti smoking commercials where they sing and dance are funny as hell.
I don't care what your opinion is, those tunes are catchy.-TheSecondSign-

I can't finds it. :(

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="its_me_"]

Yea...let's hope the government invades our personal lives even more. Maybe we can create a government-run utopia where nobody has the freedom to pursue their own endeavors, private or public. That's the America I want to live in: an America that has completely abandoned the ideas of individualism it was founded on, and regressed back to the twisted Marxist ideology of a socialist and classless society. God forbid anyone stand up for liberty. Reducing second-hand cigarette smoke is more important.

Link256

Notably, those do cause less damage to socioty, so logically smoking should be illegal too.

Could not the same thing be said for certain types of foods out there? For example, fast-food joints?

Not necessarily. You see with smoking comes second-hand smoke hazards. If a person is smoking, all non-smoking people in the area are forced to inhale the smoke left over. Like if a parent smokes, a child or spouse who doesn't smoke is at a greater risk of contracting a smoking related illness or disease. But if a parent is eating unhealthy food there are no "secondhand calories" passed on to the rest of the family or others nearby. Eating unhealthy is very much an individual decision that affects only the user, but smoking affects the user as well as all those around him. I'm all for banning smoking completely here in the States...although it'll never happen, tobacco companies hold too much power and make too much money, there's no way the government would shut them down. *sigh* But at least they've made progress and alot of states have banned smoking in public places.