Asians more responsible with their money than Westerners

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#1 Lonelynight
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Credit to mevotex@miricommunity.net Across the globe, women from which countries save most of their income? Banking giant HSBC recently conducted the Future of Retirement Survey 2013 to figure how well people save for their retirement. It was found that Asians generally tend to save more than their Western counterparts. Two however, stand out. According to the survey, women from Hong Kong and Singapore are the best savers, salting away more money than women anywhere else on the planet.  Singaporean women top the list by saving an average US$536 a month, followed by Hong Kong women US$521 a month. This compared with US$336 on average for Asia and US$243 globally. Hong Kong women are slightly more disciplined savers however, with 61 per cent of women save every month, versus 55 per cent of that in Singapore. They are trailed by Taiwan though, where 68 per cent of the women save up their money. "Globally, men seem to be better savers than women" both in terms of their regularity and amounts saved, said Diana Cesar, head of retail banking and wealth management for HSBC's Hong Kong office. Women globally usually save for short-term goals - such as taking a holiday - instead of for retirement, the survey found.  Around the world, 46 per cent of women save regularly compared to 50 per cent of men. The money women save lasts only 10 years after their retirement, on average, the study found. Yet women usually live 23.3 years after retirement, compared to 18.5 years for men. Hence women often experience financial hardship after retirement. Cesar said: "We noticed that over half of Hong Kong women in their 40s and 50s are concerned about their ability to cope financially in retirement. This suggested that although Hong Kong women may have made some preparations for later years, they are not confident this is sufficient and thus tend to save more." Hong Kong women who seek help from a professional financial adviser would have about 140 per cent more retirement savings than those who did not, she said.  People in developing countries earn less, but save more than their developed counterparts Among other findings was that, on average, 48 per cent of respondents have never saved specifically for retirement. The majority of non-savers reside in higher-income nations such as France, Australia and the U.K. 31 percent of respondents from the U.S. indicated they have never specifically saved for retirement. Source: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article...le-savers-worldhttp://www.philstar.com/business-usual/201...nt-needs-surveyhttp://www.wealthadviser.co/2013/02/20/180...ays-hsbc-surveyhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/126486813/HSBC-T...rement-Feb-2013

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#2 jun_aka_pekto
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I believe it. My wife is Asian and she's a tightwad when it comes to money. She even took my credit cards so I can't upgrade my gaming PC on a whim. I actually have to project the year I'll be upgrading and stick with it.

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#3 Angie7F
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I think it is because we have a different culture from the western world.

For example, we dont rely heavily on cedit cards and checks.

Maybe that has somthing to do with it.

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#4 svenus97
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60% of the human population is Asian.

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#5 Lonelynight
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60% of the human population is Asian.

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I don't see how this is relevant.
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#6 Nayef_shroof
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[QUOTE="svenus97"]

60% of the human population is Asian.

Lonelynight

I don't see how this is relevant.

Too many asians brah...jk

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#7 Wolfetan
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="svenus97"]

60% of the human population is Asian.

Nayef_shroof

I don't see how this is relevant.

Too many asians brah...jk

I agree.
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I think it is because we have a different culture from the western world.

For example, we dont rely heavily on cedit cards and checks.

Maybe that has somthing to do with it.

Angie7F
many developed counties also have social safety nets...this may have an impact of people's savings.
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#9 thebest31406
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Another "What's your point" thread.
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#10 leviathan91
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This is true considering the amount of Asians I've worked with who are extremely frugal about their money.

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#11 DaBrainz
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I believe it. My wife is Asian and she's a tightwad when it comes to money. She even took my credit cards so I can't upgrade my gaming PC on a whim. I actually have to project the year I'll be upgrading and stick with it.

jun_aka_pekto
LOL I can just imagine using MS project for household timelines.
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#12 Chicken453
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This is a really stupid study. Way to many factors need to be considered. To have a blanket statement like Asians save more money.
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People in the USA are terrible at saving money. I hope this trend is changing. I already have a 401k and some other funds for short term and medium range saving. I'm also looking into diversifying my accounts so they are more efficient. 

I'm only 24. I should be set.

I am glad my generation learned how dangerous credit cards and loans are. Those things are super dangerous. They have been a big problem for the past 20-30 years and it has really sucked the money right out of a few older generations.

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well i agree with this cause my parents certainly don't like to spend any money on my gaming
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#15 horgen  Moderator
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Atm I do save money. But as a student who is facing the expenses of a kid to come plus these ridiculously high prices for apartments/houses it will be a long time where I can't save much money. And don't mention that I can rent a place, it cost just as much. Edit: Among friends saving money is sorta only done if they make more money than expected one month.
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#16 mindstorm
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As someone who works in a coffee shop I will say that there is a noticeable difference in the amount of money spent between Asians and those American-born. This is especially true of Indians. As a simple example, the most common size drink sold overall is 16 oz. but most Indians buy the 12 oz. Excluding children, about 4 out of 5 people who order 8 oz. drinks are also Indian. However, Indians are also more likely to pay for the drinks of people with them. The vast majority of times a group of Indians buy drinks only one person pays. Sure this does happen with Americans but with as high of a probability.
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#17 Diablo-B
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Hmmm. If this is true then I need to start chasing after the asian ladies
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#18 punkpunker
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when it comes to money, asians stingy about this matter and they(we) are cheap, thats explains it basically.

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#19 punkpunker
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Hmmm. If this is true then I need to start chasing after the asian ladiesDiablo-B
they are likely to suck your money AND brag for having a western husband.

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#20 Dogswithguns
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People in the USA are terrible at saving money. I hope this trend is changing. I already have a 401k and some other funds for short term and medium range saving. I'm also looking into diversifying my accounts so they are more efficient. 

I'm only 24. I should be set.

I am glad my generation learned how dangerous credit cards and loans are. Those things are super dangerous. They have been a big problem for the past 20-30 years and it has really sucked the money right out of a few older generations.

Wasdie
True, I live here I know.. Americans spending more than what they had, spent before they get paid.
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#21 FinalFighters
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i believe this. my friend is asian and he is extremely cheap when it comes to money..He loves cheating the system just to save a buck
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#22 koen57
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A lot of the countries you mentioned don't have reliable pension funds or social security systems in place. Most European and NA nations do. these populations do save, just not through their own saving accounts.

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#23 dave123321
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Lot of Americans are not responsible with their money. Kinda sad
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wow, i'm suprised that HSBC would take time out of their busy day of laundering money for terrorist groups and mexican drug cartels to put that together.

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#25 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I believe it. My wife is Asian and she's a tightwad when it comes to money. She even took my credit cards so I can't upgrade my gaming PC on a whim. I actually have to project the year I'll be upgrading and stick with it.

DaBrainz

LOL I can just imagine using MS project for household timelines.

She actually does something similar by hand and she can visualize it in her head. After all, she's been running her family logging/lumber business for almost two decades now. She knows I have a regular pattern of building a new PC every four years with a mid-life video card upgrade.

If it's just me, I'd be saddled with a lot of bills. She knows me well. So, her first stipulation before we got married is every cent goes to her. No questions asked.

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#26 celebar
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greedy walstreet what can u expect. u need to give a little to get a little.
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Ok dude...whatever you say

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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What about western Asians?
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What about western Asians?LJS9502_basic

lol

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#30 Bikouchu35
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What about western Asians?LJS9502_basic

West Asians as in middle east or westernized Asian?

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#31 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Saving your income does not necessarily mean being more responsible.  In fact, most economies are driven by spending. . . . . . . .

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#32 supa_badman
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Any retail worker could have told you that

 

Although the adjective is usually 'stingy' than 'responsible'

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#33 gamerguru100
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What about western Asians?Bikouchu35

West Asians as in middle east or westernized Asian?

Westernized. Asians living in America.
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Maybe responsibility means cutting costs and living cheaply just so you have a little spare cash to bolster your tea, wine, and cheese collections. Because you consider yourself a gourmand and this brings you genuine satisfaction.

Maybe responsibility means putting a ton of money towards your child's education.

Maybe responsibility is using all your money to establish and fund a home for armless orphan 3-6 year-olds who "never did no wrong."

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i believe this. my friend is asian and he is extremely cheap when it comes to money..He loves cheating the system just to save a buckFinalFighters
this.
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I could've told you that without the survey.
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#37 Kats_RK
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i believe this. my friend is asian and he is extremely cheap when it comes to money..He loves cheating the system just to save a buckFinalFighters

Their so cheap..it pisses me off.

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#38 Barbariser
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That's actually a rather bad idea since a lot of the Asian economies are still developing, and thus their inflation rate is relatively high.

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Cheapskates.  Nah, but seriously there's probably a lot of factors for this.  There's also not one thing that's inherently better.  Saving doesn't make you outright more responsible with your money.  It is important to save money and put a little bit aside always, but money is also meant to be spent.

 I'm sure it's also very cultural.  Us Americans always have something new we want.  I also may be speaking completely out of ignorance here, but I imagine there's certain things like cars, that those in asian countries buy a lot less of compared to Americans.  

Spending money does not always equal losing it either.  Plenty of people invest through spending buying properties, businesses, etc.

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Seriously, TC, why do you have obscure little asian girls in your sig? You obviously have an endless fascination with Asians at it seems every topic you create is you trying to say how great Asians are... but, why?
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Money is the root of all evil.

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#42 SolidsnakeY15
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Petrol is the root of all evil.

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Fixed.
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]

Petrol is the root of all evil.

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Fixed.

Tsk tsk, why'd you have to go there :( I was only being sarcastic. Besides, don't start a Petro-Dollar debate you can't finish :P
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Seriously, TC, why do you have obscure little asian girls in your sig? You obviously have an endless fascination with Asians at it seems every topic you create is you trying to say how great Asians are... but, why?lo_Pine
The TC is a racist. Of course China will save more...We have different economic systems. What are they going to spend it on? The market there is still rather closed, as it opens up the savings will drop. I can't save crap, damn health care and education bills.
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"]Seriously, TC, why do you have obscure little asian girls in your sig? You obviously have an endless fascination with Asians at it seems every topic you create is you trying to say how great Asians are... but, why?TheWalkingGhost
The TC is a racist. Of course China will save more...We have different economic systems. What are they going to spend it on? The market there is still rather closed, as it opens up the savings will drop. I can't save crap, damn health care and education bills.

I think its kinda creepy 

I think he is asian tho. Which i find kinda odd because most people don't obesses over their own race.

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Because every idiot here wants the new iphone. 

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#47 hippiesanta
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India, pakistan and philipine are asians too .... and they are poor big time
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#48 one_plum
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Because every idiot here wants the new iphone. 

Gaming-Planet

It's not just the phone. Monthly fees in North America are astronomical compared to prices in Asia.

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#50 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"]Seriously, TC, why do you have obscure little asian girls in your sig? You obviously have an endless fascination with Asians at it seems every topic you create is you trying to say how great Asians are... but, why?TheWalkingGhost
The TC is a racist. Of course China will save more...We have different economic systems. What are they going to spend it on? The market there is still rather closed, as it opens up the savings will drop. I can't save crap, damn health care and education bills.

Exactly. They make too little money anyway so what are they going to spend it on, might as well save their entire lifetime which at the end amounts to $10,000. woohoo. China's economy is artificially inflated. They have entire cities with no one to live in them. The bubble will burst soon.