Associated Press: Obama's Afghan plan includes timeframe for exit

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#1 Ace_WondersX
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I really don't know how to feel about this. I'm glad we don't have to worry about Afghanistan for another 8 years, but they will withdraw in "less than three years" I would rather the Armed Forces withdraw by next year.

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Begin to pull out in 3 years? how about right now??? there's nothing to "win" there, hypothetically we could be there forever.
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I would rather all military personnel positioned in a foreign country be brought back, we stop all humanitarian and military aid to anyone, and the US only deals financially with other countries when it benefits the US. Let's try that for 10 years and see what the world is like...
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you cant just up and leave. the country was turned to dust... you gotta stay..
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you cant just up and leave. the country was turned to dust... you gotta stay..weezyfb
The country was always dust. They have no resources and are one of the poorest countries in the world if not the poorest.
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[QUOTE="weezyfb"]you cant just up and leave. the country was turned to dust... you gotta stay..Ace_WondersX
The country was always dust. They have no resources and are one of the poorest countries in the world if not the poorest.

atleast they had security with rabbani. now because of the invasion al qaeda recruitment went up

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[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="weezyfb"]you cant just up and leave. the country was turned to dust... you gotta stay..weezyfb
The country was always dust. They have no resources and are one of the poorest countries in the world if not the poorest.

atleast they had security with saddam. now because of the invasion Taliban recruitment went up 200%

Saddam was in Iraq, the Taliban are in Afghanistan.
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#8 weezyfb
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whoops meant Rabbani
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I'm reserving my opinion on this until I know exactly what Obama's plan is in the region, not just vis-a-vis troop levels, but what the Administration's plan is in relation to Pakistani and Indian presences in Afghanistan. That's the biggest question I have right now, and I think it is one that needs to be answered before talking about an exit strategy.
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Our mission in Afghanistan is like going back to the middle ages and creating a modern government. I fear that the mission in that backwards place is utterly hopeless.
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Too bad Bush never thought of this for Iraq. He might not have been such a completely irresponsible and irrelevant loser in a flight suit on an aircraft carrier.

Obama is smart - he sets a deadline, which means no matter how this turns out, we're out of there in 3 years.

And if for whatever reason he doesn't win re-election, then the next president doesn't get stuck inheriting a MESS like he did.

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I would rather all military personnel positioned in a foreign country be brought back, we stop all humanitarian and military aid to anyone, and the US only deals financially with other countries when it benefits the US. Let's try that for 10 years and see what the world is like...FragStains

You have my support and ,I suspect, most of the world (wild guess)

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Are any posts showing up here? What's going on?
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[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="weezyfb"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"] The country was always dust. They have no resources and are one of the poorest countries in the world if not the poorest.

atleast they had security with saddam. now because of the invasion Taliban recruitment went up 200%

Saddam was in Iraq, the Taliban are in Afghanistan.

Im sorry but your intelligence level just isnt that top notch
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#16 deactivated-5985f1128b98f
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The only valid exit strategy is VICTORY.

If you are not interested in victory then get our people the hell out of there.

If you can not define victory then get our people the hell out of there.

I seem to remember, and the linked article confirms, that Obama told us during the campaign that Afghanistan is a war of necessity. Given this and his proclaimed brilliance on foreign affairs, and his foreing affairs guru VP Biden, they should have no problem defining victory. I can't wait to hear him define victory, cuz I have no idea what we are trying to accomplish.

I'll put a $5 bet on the following with anyone on here that wants to take it: I bet you will not hear the word victory cross the president's lips during the speech tonight.

Any takers?

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Unlike the Iraq war, the Afghan war at least had a valid premise. The taliban were shielding and working with al qaeda. They certainly weren't popular even among the afghan people. I'd like to see afghanistan at least have some security before the US forces withdraw. The last thing you'd want is for the taliban to come back in power once the US and NATO forces leave and then make afghanistan a haven for al qaeda again.

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#18 jessica_bie
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I'm reserving my opinion on this until I know exactly what Obama's plan is in the region, not just vis-a-vis troop levels, but what the Administration's plan is in relation to Pakistani and Indian presences in Afghanistan. That's the biggest question I have right now, and I think it is one that needs to be answered before talking about an exit strategy. -Sun_Tzu-
I agree w/you Sun Tzu. I'd also like to know how the Obama administration truly intends to fund the troop increase. Maybe we'll find out more during Obama's address....
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#19 Maniacc1
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I guess I'll have to wait for the address to make any decisions, but at least there seems to be a valid timetable.
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#20 Ace_WondersX
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[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="weezyfb"] atleast they had security with saddam. now because of the invasion Taliban recruitment went up 200%

Saddam was in Iraq, the Taliban are in Afghanistan.

Im sorry but your intelligence level just isnt that top notch

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