Atheist alternative to Christmas...

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.vlin1108

Yay for non-conformists trying to get others to conform to their ideas. :roll: DarkPrinceXC

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]Yay for non-conformists trying to get others to conform to their ideas. :roll: clembo1990

[QUOTE="vlin1108"]We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.clembo1990

No, atheists hide in foxholes! By the way, there is NO similar alternative to Christmas for the reason I stated above!

There is only one God and one Christmas and nothing else can or will be like it.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]Yay for non-conformists trying to get others to conform to their ideas. :roll: DarkPrinceXC

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="vlin1108"]We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.vlin1108

No, atheists hide in foxholes! By the way, there is NO similar alternative to Christmas for the reason I stated above!

There is only one God and one Christmas and nothing else can or will be like it.

You can still do that if you want, but I don't see why all atheists have to do it. And how can it be considered an alternative to Christmas if what you're proposing is not a holiday, and not pre-dominantly practiced by atheists, but by many different people? It sounds like you're just trying to garner attention to the idea that atheists shouldn't celebrate a holiday that has religious influences simply to avoid any association that would be entailed with celebrating it.

christmas only exists once per year man, just because your an atheist doesn't mean you can't enjoy and respect the holiday.

and merry christmas to you!!!

Atheism having it's very own "Organized religion" promoting this tradition? Kind on an oxymoron.

You can still do that if you want, but I don't see why all atheists have to do it. And how can it be considered an alternative to Christmas if what you're proposing is not a holiday, and not pre-dominantly practiced by atheists, but by many different people? It sounds like you're just trying to garner attention to the idea that atheists shouldn't celebrate a holiday that has religious influences simply to avoid any association that would be entailed with celebrating it.

Blood-Scribe

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

You can still do that if you want, but I don't see why all atheists have to do it. And how can it be considered an alternative to Christmas if what you're proposing is not a holiday, and not pre-dominantly practiced by atheists, but by many different people? It sounds like you're just trying to garner attention to the idea that atheists shouldn't celebrate a holiday that has religious influences simply to avoid any association that would be entailed with celebrating it.

clembo1990

Christmas isn't a Christian-exclusive holiday, and it never was to begin with.

Even if it were, what's would be so bad about celebrating it?

Yay for non-conformists trying to get others to conform to their ideas. :roll: DarkPrinceXC

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="vlin1108"]We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.vlin1108

No, atheists hide in foxholes! By the way, there is NO similar alternative to Christmas for the reason I stated above!

There is only one God and one Christmas and nothing else can or will be like it.

Atheism having it's very own "Organized religion" promoting this tradition? Kind on an oxymoron.

aliblabla2007

Ever hear of the Freedom From Religion Foundation? They got all this "being religious without being religious" crap down.

I agree, because the iTunes gift cards I got not only screwed me over but screwed over the people who bought them, because they simply don't work. "The code you entered is not recognized as a valid code." BS, I typed it correctly, I quadruple-checked it.GeForce2187

Wait a while, and try it again. That happened to me, too, but it worked after I tried later.

We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.vlin1108

We only celebrate the birth of Jesus once a year, because he was only born once. Atheists think Christmas is about presents and want to get some all year? It just shows how big of an ego they have developed.vlin1108

Even on a holiday, Atheists can't sit back and watch a Christian enjoy something that their religion is based off of. Pardon me, but the other 364 days of the year you can bash Christianity, but at least lay off on Christmas. Merry Christmas sir.3eyedrazorback

Even on a holiday, Atheists can't sit back and watch a Christian enjoy something that their religion is based off of. Pardon me, but the other 364 days of the year you can bash Christianity, but at least lay off on Christmas. Merry Christmas sir.3eyedrazorback

I don't get why Atheists are anti-christmas. I'm Agnostic and I celebrate Christmas. Its kinda passed the celebration of Christ, its more just a regular holiday now. Not as many people that used to celebrate Christ's birth.xTheExploited

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Even on a holiday, Atheists can't sit back and watch a Christian enjoy something that their religion is based off of. Pardon me, but the other 364 days of the year you can bash Christianity, but at least lay off on Christmas. Merry Christmas sir.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Even on a holiday, Atheists can't sit back and watch a Christian enjoy something that their religion is based off of. Pardon me, but the other 364 days of the year you can bash Christianity, but at least lay off on Christmas. Merry Christmas sir.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

You can still do that if you want, but I don't see why all atheists have to do it. And how can it be considered an alternative to Christmas if what you're proposing is not a holiday, and not pre-dominantly practiced by atheists, but by many different people? It sounds like you're just trying to garner attention to the idea that atheists shouldn't celebrate a holiday that has religious influences simply to avoid any association that would be entailed with celebrating it.

Blood-Scribe

Christmas isn't a Christian-exclusive holiday, and it never was to begin with.

Even if it were, what's would be so bad about celebrating it?

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

clembo1990

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="clembo1990"] Firstly, I'm assuming that Atheists are a collection of seperate minded people. Individuals with their only common value, gauranteed, is a lack of religion. I also made this as a thought, not an open letter to humanists on OT. I just think that Christmas has more attached to it than it means, and that everything good about it can apply to humanists (atheists, whatever) and every religion other than Christianity too, in a different way.clembo1990

Christmas isn't a Christian-exclusive holiday, and it never was to begin with.

Even if it were, what's would be so bad about celebrating it?

Then don't celebrate it. No one said you have to.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

thriteenthmonke

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

thriteenthmonke

[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

clembo1990

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Christmas isn't a Christian-exclusive holiday, and it never was to begin with.

Even if it were, what's would be so bad about celebrating it?

Blood-Scribe

Then don't celebrate it. No one said you have to.

I guess you didn't read my post very well. I guess you might have seen other topics with similar keywords in the topic title, saw a brash view of my religious affiliation and then assumed what I wrote. Good job at failing to see my point.clembo1990

I don't get why Atheists are anti-christmas. I'm Agnostic and I celebrate Christmas. Its kinda passed the celebration of Christ, its more just a regular holiday now. Not as many people that used to celebrate Christ's birth.xTheExploited

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]I don't get why Atheists are anti-christmas. I'm Agnostic and I celebrate Christmas. Its kinda passed the celebration of Christ, its more just a regular holiday now. Not as many people that used to celebrate Christ's birth.fidosim

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]I guess you didn't read my post very well. I guess you might have seen other topics with similar keywords in the topic title, saw a brash view of my religious affiliation and then assumed what I wrote. Good job at failing to see my point.3eyedrazorback

Christmas is a way to bring family together

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"]I don't get why Atheists are anti-christmas. I'm Agnostic and I celebrate Christmas. Its kinda passed the celebration of Christ, its more just a regular holiday now. Not as many people that used to celebrate Christ's birth.DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]I guess you didn't read my post very well. I guess you might have seen other topics with similar keywords in the topic title, saw a brash view of my religious affiliation and then assumed what I wrote. Good job at failing to see my point.clembo1990

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"] If you're celebrating Christ Mass, you're celebrating the birth of Christ. You can open presents on Christmas but if you don't believe in Christ call it something else.DeeJayInphinity

Fair enough, but to further a point, you encourage and tell them to go read your OP. Not sit there and bash them. You can't get across a valid point to someone you have just put down. 3eyedrazorback

P.S. I am posting a lot here, does this mean I'm hijacking my own thread?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="clembo1990"] Call me pedantic, but I question a lot of things. If Christmas never existed and I put a tree up in my living room with lights on it at some random point in the year I would be dragged away by men in white coats. We do a lot of dumb things and I think this is one load of stress that indifferent people (like most the people in my country) could do without.clembo1990

Then don't celebrate it. No one said you have to.

Then what's your point?

You're suggesting that Christmas is over-hyped and that it's better to just surprise someone by giving them a gift at a random point in the year, which is proposed as an alternative to this holiday. People already do that all the time, it's not like people just give gifts only on holidays, and what you're suggesting isn't an alternative to a holiday, nor a suggestion for another holiday. So then what difference would it make to have this made as something official?

And again, Christmas is more than just a Christian holiday, and the secular traditions are not influenced by that particular religion, and many different cultures celebrate this time of the year in some way, since it revolves around the winter solstice. I don't get why you have to make it out as though Atheists can't celebrate Christmas as they want to. If you don't want to celebrate it, then don't. If others want to celebrate it, they can.

So what, are you trying to make it so that Christmas isn't a holiday anymore? That's not what your thread title suggests, nor what your posts seem to suggest, so I'm guessing that's not it. Is it that you don't like the materialistic atmosphere of the Christmas season? Well then don't count on changing anything on an internet forum. So then I ask about why you care so much and why atheists aren't allowed to celebrate it, and then you just tell me that I'm just assuming things and not reading correctly. That's what I got from what you're posting, and it'd help if you weren't so vague on it and just pointed out how if Christmas didn't exist and you celebrated the secular traditions, that you'd be dragged out of your house, and then clarifying on the first page that atheists are diverse individuals, which doesn't clarify much.

Would it kill you to just make things clearer before resorting to passively insulting people?

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

clembo1990

How about instead of conforming to the hype-fest we have leading up to this day (which inevitably ends up in an anti-climax), we just give a present to the people we love at a random time of year to give them a surprise? (not like a birthday, the transfer of present is unkown by the recipient)

I think its nice, instead of being nice at one time of year we can have a chance to celebrate what we have all year round whatever you believe in.

clembo1990

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Then don't celebrate it. No one said you have to.

Blood-Scribe

Then what's your point?

You're suggesting that Christmas is over-hyped and that it's better to just surprise someone by giving them a gift at a random point in the year, which is proposed as an alternative to this holiday. People already do that all the time, it's not like people just give gifts only on holidays, and what you're suggesting isn't an alternative to a holiday, nor a suggestion for another holiday. So then what difference would it make to have this made as something official?

And again, Christmas is more than just a Christian holiday, and the secular traditions are not influenced by that particular religion, and many different cultures celebrate this time of the year in some way, since it revolves around the winter solstice. I don't get why you have to make it out as though Atheists can't celebrate Christmas as they want to. If you don't want to celebrate it, then don't. If others want to celebrate it, they can.

So what, are you trying to make it so that Christmas isn't a holiday anymore? That's not what your thread title suggests, nor what your posts seem to suggest, okay then. So then I ask about why you care so much and why atheists aren't allowed to celebrate it, and then you just tell me that I'm just assuming things and not reading correctly. That's what I got from what you're posting, and it'd help if you weren't so vague on it and just pointed out how if Christmas didn't exist and you celebrated the secular traditions, that you'd be dragged out of your house, and then clarifying on the first page that atheists are diverse individuals, which doesn't clarify much.

Would it kill you to just make things clearer before resorting to passively insulting people?