Athiests,Would having a religion even change your life in a major way?

" I follow all religions at once just to be sure."Erasorn

lmao!

Jesus is the one and true path :)

At least to me that is.

Jesus is the one and true path :)

At least to me that is.

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its not faith if its a hedge against doom...

thats a big problem with many religions.. its the bribe of eternal life in heaven for faith and the threat of eternal punishment for disbelief.... how about no reward for belief and no punishment for disbelief? then the faithful can be faithful freely and the unfaithful faithless freely. its not faith if its a safty net or bribery.

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Jesus is the one and true path :)

At least to me that is.

Erasorn

Lmao

Since you already do not believe,what would having a religion change?
You would be on the safe side just in case it was all true
UnrealSin_X

Because we call that being a COWARD. No being should reward a person for being controled by fear..

No, because my views would have to be different. Plus I'd also be in the same boat as people who walk down the street with signs round their neck saying "God kills sinners"...Bourbons3

Double post, great...

That's like asking a legless man if he wants some legs.

"You already can't walk, but at least you'll have legs to walk".

It's illogical. If i got into any religion, it would be different because i'd start to be theist, not being atheist anymore.

Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life lycrof

State of Eternal nothingness?

[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

If nothingness is what awaits you, then why would it matter to you? It's not like you'd be aware of your non-existence. And quite frankly, if that's your fate, that's your fate, no matter how much you wish it weren't. If there's no supernatural realm, believing in one won't make it real.

[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

Which is worse psychologically

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life UnrealSin_X

State of Eternal nothingness?

Which is worse psychologically

Apparently not, sense most athiests constantly do not think about death.. Its a waste of time and energy.

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life UnrealSin_X

State of Eternal nothingness?

Which is worse psychologically

lol there would be no mind to effect psychologically.

I don't think you really understand this issue. Most atheists aren't atheists because they wish to rebel against authority or something. They're atheists because they are unable to believe that a supernatural realm exists without first hand evidence of its existence. It would be like asking you to believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real.pianist

Man, Pascal's Wager gets trotted out here at least once a weekxaos

BTW, when you say Pascal's Wager, I mean the usage of using "what happens after death" by that.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Man, Pascal's Wager gets trotted out here at least once a weekFireball2500

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="xaos"]Man, Pascal's Wager gets trotted out here at least once a weekxaos

[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life comp_atkins

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that mean we have soul?

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

what do you consider a soul?

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life hip-hop-cola2

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

what do you consider a soul?

A spirit that inhabits our bodies, you know. somehting along those lines.

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

?? "so that we mean we have soul" that sentence sense not make

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life comp_atkins

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that mean we have soul?

?? "so that we mean we have soul" that sentence sense not make

Rofl sorry. Corrected it.

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

That's the problem right there. People will believe what they think makes the most sense as long as it tells them their conciousness will exist after they die. Ignorance is bliss and who doesn't want to be blissful?

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life Food_Nipple

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

That's the problem right there. People will believe what they think makes the most sense as long as it tells them their conciousness will exist after they die. Ignorance is bliss and who doesn't want to be blissful?

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life 123625

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that mean we have soul?

?? "so that we mean we have soul" that sentence sense not make

Rofl sorry. Corrected it.

:) nah.. i wasn't implying that humans have a soul. my point i was trying to make is if there is nothingness, you really will not care one way or another because you would not have the ability to care, since you are non-existant. like the time before you were born. you have no memory of it because you did not exist. so you could not say that it was bad or good.

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life Fireball2500

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that we mean we have soul?

That's the problem right there. People will believe what they think makes the most sense as long as it tells them their conciousness will exist after they die. Ignorance is bliss and who doesn't want to be blissful?

then it's a good thing you're not arguing right now :roll:

You would be on the safe side just in case it was all true
UnrealSin_X

Depends on which religion you're talking about. Just believing in one religion or another doesn't automatically mean that you're on the right one. What if all religions are wrong? Would you still be safe?

I don't see how it would make a difference. From anybody's perspective, someone who worships a pagan god and follows the "laws" of that god are only following the laws of the men who created that god. If Christians (or any religion for that matter) were asked to follow a pagan religion, they would only be following the law of man. If atheists were asked to follow a religion (pagan or not, it depends on the person and their beliefs), it would only be the law of men (much like the laws they follow now, since they don't have a god to begin with).

The only difference is that to challenge the "law of a god" can be considered sacreligious and some religions condemn it with death or frown upon it in some manner. The "law of man" however is subjected to change when men see that it needs change. The "law of a god" can't be changed (although it can be open to different interpretations) but the "law of man" can.

Therefore, the only difference would be that the laws atheists would live by would be either basic common sense laws (such as "don't lie; don't kill; etc.") that will likely never be changed by neither god or man or primitive laws (such as "don't eat this type of meat").

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life comp_atkins

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that mean we have soul?

?? "so that we mean we have soul" that sentence sense not make

Rofl sorry. Corrected it.

:) nah.. i wasn't implying that humans have a soul. my point i was trying to make is if there is nothingness, you really will not care one way or another because you would not have the ability to care, since you are non-existant. like the time before you were born. you have no memory of it because you did not exist. so you could not say that it was bad or good.

Well this isn't neccesarly true.. It is possible to concieve even as a athiest that you are more then just matter.. The reason for this is our absolute puzzlement of conciousness.. We have no idea what it is nor can we really explain why we are not zombies (in the way of being aware, so more or less why are we not plant like?)

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You would be on the safe side just in case it was all true
Blood-Scribe

Depends on which religion you're talking about. Just believing in one religion or another doesn't automatically mean that you're on the right one. What if all religions are wrong? Would you still be safe?

You'd also be on the safe side constantly hanging on for dear life to anything you can just in case the floor beneath you suddenly disapears. That doesn't mean it's likely to happen or that there's any evidence that it will.

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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Believing in no god = No hell = no fear of after life sSubZerOo

State of Eternal nothingness?

meh.. thats what it was for me before i was born. i can go back to that. its not like before birth i was sitting around like "man, this sucks.. there's nothingness!"

So that mean we have soul?

?? "so that we mean we have soul" that sentence sense not make

Rofl sorry. Corrected it.

:) nah.. i wasn't implying that humans have a soul. my point i was trying to make is if there is nothingness, you really will not care one way or another because you would not have the ability to care, since you are non-existant. like the time before you were born. you have no memory of it because you did not exist. so you could not say that it was bad or good.

Well this isn't neccesarly true.. It is possible to concieve even as a athiest that you are more then just matter.. The reason for this is our absolute puzzlement of conciousness.. We have no idea what it is nor can we really explain why we are not zombies (in the way of being aware, so more or less why are we not plant like?)

i wasn't saying i knew for sure. just my opinion :)

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You would be on the safe side just in case it was all true
Food_Nipple

Depends on which religion you're talking about. Just believing in one religion or another doesn't automatically mean that you're on the right one. What if all religions are wrong? Would you still be safe?

You'd also be on the safe side constantly hanging on for dear life to anything you can just in case the floor beneath you suddenly disapears. That doesn't mean it's likely to happen or that there's any evidence that it will.

Thus raising the question on how you could possibly define one religion or belief as safe from such a theoretical consequence of not believing. No one knows for sure who's right, who's wrong, or if anyone is even right or wrong. So either way, you're just as safe to believe in one thing to believe in another, or to simply not believe at all.