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The person who gave us such wisdom as "When I die, I hope to go to Heaven, whatever the Hell that is. - Ayn Rand".Who?
Suzy_Q_Kazoo
This woman
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The person who gave us such wisdom as "When I die, I hope to go to Heaven, whatever the Hell that is. - Ayn Rand".TELLMEYOURLIFE
I thought her name looked familiar. I only know her as the author of Atlas Shrugged, which I have yet to read.
Hah, I forgot about that. It's funny this led internet philosophers to sig her quotes.i blame bioshock
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i blame bioshock
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i've played both games good sir and i can tell you i'm not a ayn rand fan in the least.
and i honestly don't know why she's become so popular all of sudden, its like why the hell did daniel tosh get his own show?
To those who said they "hate" her philosophy, why? What makes it worse then any other philosophy faulting out there? Which philosophical ideology do you feel trumps her's? Im not challenging you or anything, Im just curious of why you think its bad?Diablo-BBecause it has promoted the despicable lie that the poor deserve their lot because they're a bunch of lazy moochers, when the reality is that a lot of the homeless are mentally disabled, physically disabled, children, elderly, or are unemployable due to problems with criminal records, mental illness, or the fact that many employers require prospective employees to have an address with the homeless, ipso facto, do not have. Also, it turns out that the people who promote the ideology don't really give me a good impression - Terry Goodkind with his "evil pacifists" and morally questionable protagonist; Ditko's "Mr. A," whose main superpower seems to be lecturing people to death; "The Girl Who Owned a City," in which someone who scavenges goods lectures people on rightful ownership; and Jay Naylor's webcomics, which endear me more to his designated strawman than to his protagonists.
Ayn Rand was an unhinged narcissist whose ideal society was a social-darwinistic dystopia in which no one helps anyone and the poor are left to rot. Her crappy books and incoherent philosophy have spread to many of the world's richest a kind of hideous corporate pseudo-Nietzscheanism in which the real heroes are greedy, selfish fatcats.
I'm not a fan.
Ayn Rand was an unhinged narcissist whose ideal society was a social-darwinistic dystopia in which no one helps anyone and the poor are left to rot. Her crappy books and incoherent philosophy have spread to many of the world's richest a kind of hideous corporate pseudo-Nietzscheanism in which the real heroes are greedy, selfish fatcats.
I'm not a fan.
In most literature courses, students are tasked with pointing out both the advantages and disadvantages to the objectivist society depicted in Atlas Shrugged.I thought the popular stereotype was that atheists were liberal. Pick one please.Am I wrong to suggest that many atheists are tempted to believe in Ayn Rand's philosophy then? They value 'reason', right?
SkyWard20
Ayn Rand was an unhinged narcissist whose ideal society was a social-darwinistic dystopia in which no one helps anyone and the poor are left to rot. Her crappy books and incoherent philosophy have spread to many of the world's richest a kind of hideous corporate pseudo-Nietzscheanism in which the real heroes are greedy, selfish fatcats.
I'm not a fan.
In most literature courses, students are tasked with pointing out both the advantages and disadvantages to the objectivist society depicted in Atlas Shrugged.Gosh. Those poor students.Ayn Rand was an unhinged narcissist whose ideal society was a social-darwinistic dystopia in which no one helps anyone and the poor are left to rot. Her crappy books and incoherent philosophy have spread to many of the world's richest a kind of hideous corporate pseudo-Nietzscheanism in which the real heroes are greedy, selfish fatcats.
I'm not a fan.
In most literature courses, students are tasked with pointing out both the advantages and disadvantages to the objectivist society depicted in Atlas Shrugged.Gosh. Those poor students. I don't see the problem there. If you disagree with her philosophy, then that's what you touch on in your thesis.[QUOTE="HAHAITHINKNOT"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"] In most literature courses, students are tasked with pointing out both the advantages and disadvantages to the objectivist society depicted in Atlas Shrugged.UT_WrestlerGosh. Those poor students. I don't see the problem there. If you disagree with her philosophy, then that's what you touch on in your thesis.I'd find it far more interesting to write a thesis on a philosophy that actually had some merit.
Take a look at this article about why she sucks. If you have time, read the comments as well. The writer was good enough to respond to the opposition.
Andrew Ryan from Bioshock is a play on her name. That should tell you something (if you've played Bioshock). :PWho?
Suzy_Q_Kazoo
[QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"]Hell, just take a look at this comic about why she sucks. Nice. Thanks for that!Take a look at this article about why she sucks. If you have time, read the comments as well. The writer was good enough to respond to the opposition.
Theokhoth
I really don't like Ayn Rand. Her books are long and poorly written excuses for her to preach her philosophies. I have read Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, and Anthem, and I disliked all three. The stories are just dull. None of the characters are very interesting, and some of the monologues are painful to read. There are tons of better writers than her who don't cram their political, and philosophical views down your throat.
Am I wrong to suggest that many atheists are tempted to believe in Ayn Rand's philosophy then? They value 'reason', right?
SkyWard20
I'm an atheist and I can't stand her, and aren't we stereotyped to be liberals?
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Am I wrong to suggest that many atheists are tempted to believe in Ayn Rand's philosophy then? They value 'reason', right?
Former_Slacker
I'm an atheist and I can't stand her, and aren't we stereotyped to be liberals?
It could be that he just wants anything that's bad to be applied to atheists.
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Am I wrong to suggest that many atheists are tempted to believe in Ayn Rand's philosophy then? They value 'reason', right?
Phaze-Two
I'm an atheist and I can't stand her, and aren't we stereotyped to be liberals?
It could be that he just wants anything that's bad to be applied to atheists.
That's not true. D:Doubtful. Ayn Ran herself was an atheist, and her philosophy is explicitly anti-Christian, but I find it highly unlikely that any of that draws in atheists on account of "reason." Almost everyone tries to put themselves on the pedestal of "reason." That Ayn Rand tried to do it is nothing special.Am I wrong to suggest that many atheists are tempted to believe in Ayn Rand's philosophy then? They value 'reason', right?
SkyWard20
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]Andrew Ryan from Bioshock is a play on her name. That should tell you something (if you've played Bioshock). :PWho?
StopThePresses
That actually helps a lot! :P
Probably teenagers finding out she exists, due in large to the internet. Personally, I am really not a fan. Her vehement hostility towards even voluntary charity and religion (not even the argued affects of religion so much as the mere belief is what she particularly didn't like) didn't help with that. As an above poster said, I found very interesting how she self declared her opinion as the epitome of reason. That libertarians often put her on the pedestal that they do disappoints me.
well... for a person who is supposed to be the champion of free-thought and laizze-faire intellectual freedom, she certainly didn't allow a lot of it around her.
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