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Gun Control....
tenaka2
The ansawer is more guns according to our resident gun nuts, the more guns the safer we will be.
From what? Birds?[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
Gun Control....
MgamerBD
The ansawer is more guns according to our resident gun nuts, the more guns the safer we will be.
Obviously we need more guns. More guns=less violence right?!We will only have peace when everyone openly carries guns. Except for the under 5's, they get bb guns.
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Gun Control....
MgamerBD
The ansawer is more guns according to our resident gun nuts, the more guns the safer we will be.
Obviously we need more guns. More guns=less violence right?! One gun per person isn't cutting it. To ensure public safety, everyone should always carry at least 2 or more guns at all times.I hate our gun laws. They're both unreasonably strict and somehow easy to obtain.
Our lawmakers are really out of touch with the American public.
When I have kids, I'm going to teach them not to be bothered with w/e people say to them, and every other parent should do that too.
Words may be stronger than actions, but not if the person being abused doesn't give two sh!ts about what the other person(s) is saying to them!
Gun Control....
OB-47
Well schools are "Gun Free Zones", and you need to be over 18 to legally own a long gun (21 for handgun). More gun control will not stop stuff like this.
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Gun Control....
tenaka2
The ansawer is more guns according to our resident gun nuts, the more guns the safer we will be.
Didn't the Police accidently hit 9 bystanders in a gun battle in NY the other week? Clearly what they lacked was the protection of their own guns.
He probably got butthurt for being called fat or some silly sh!t like that lol.Degenerate society. We have a bunch of nihilist with nothing better to do than shoot people.
GIJames248
How are people still able to carry guns INTO schools in the U.S.? I figured that with this sort of thing being ridiculously common in the U.S. compared to just about any other developed nation, they'd have figured out some way to stop the damn things at school entrances.
Some schools have metal detectors and stuff, but I doubt it's all that common. I mean, I doubt that enough school shootings happen to justify the costs of outfitting every school in the country with metal detectors.How are people still able to carry guns INTO schools in the U.S.? I figured that with this sort of thing being ridiculously common in the U.S. compared to just about any other developed nation, they'd have figured out some way to stop the damn things at school entrances.
Barbariser
Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
[QUOTE="OB-47"]Gun control laws do not work. Pretty much, the kid was 17 and anyone under 21 can't legally purchase a handgun. If sh*t is going to happen it's going to happen.Gun Control....
BatCrazedJoker
I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
MrGeezer
This is why I think the media doesn't help, but instead harms when they report this stuff like it's a new movie coming out.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
MrGeezer
Exactly right. The media will report things if they deem it "newsworthy". Dead body on the ground=more clicks/more copies sold. These days, any crime having to do with guns is a hot topic, so we'll see something about it in the popular media. Of course, incidents were guns were used responsibly to prevent a crime will rarely make the front page, if it makes the news at all.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
MrGeezer
That's true. Violent crime and murder rates have been dropping in this nation despite of everything.
I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]
Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
That's true. Violent crime and murder rates have been dropping in this nation despite of everything.
Crime drops, reports increase. I think this country is in dire need of reality checks across many subjects
I'm wondering if school shootings (or shootings in general) even ARE happening more commonly recently. They certainly might be, but one gets a skewed perspective just by looking at stories like this. Obviously several people are getting shot every day in the USA, even when gun crime is at its lowest. So theoretically it's possible to make it seem like gun crime is going up just by reporting on the stuff more. Sort of like the "summer of the shark", when a whopping two or three shark attacks got the country to flip its $*** even though shark attacks that year were actually below the yearly average.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]
Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
That's true. Violent crime and murder rates have been dropping in this nation despite of everything.
Right. Since that past couple of decades, 48 states now have CCW permit laws on the books, yet it didn't turn into the Wild West. Crime in general has been dropping. What does that mean?
It means that the media is inflating the perceptoin that gun crime is out of control. It means that gun control is intellectual low hanging fruit in the crime discussion. Sure gun control laws may give people the warm fuzzies, but the facts do NOT support the idea that gun control has had any positiive effect on crime.
And to be fair, while I'm aware that shootings have gone down quite a bit since the 90s, I'm certainly not willing to overlook the possibility that they're starting to go up again. Could this year have been a particularly violent year as far as gun crimes are concerned? I don't know. I wouldn't rule it out. But one actually has to look at statistics, not just go by the media. Yeah, it does seem like I've been seeing more stories about shootings recently, and it very well may be that shootings are up this year. But there's no way to determine that just by looking at media coverage.MrGeezer
Hm...but if this is a 'slow' year for public shootings, and they're just being reported more widely, then there's still a huge gun problem in the country. Hell, if it's usually much worse than it is now, then that's a scary thought indeed.
Even with a population so large, this sort of thing should not be a regular weekly/monthly occurrence.
I'm not even going to claim that the USA doesn't have a gun problem, but a "weekly occurrence" could be as little as 52 times a year. In a country the size of the USA, that's pretty much nothing.Hm...but if this is a 'slow' year for public shootings, and they're just being reported more widely, then there's still a huge gun problem in the country. Hell, if it's usually much worse than it is now, then that's a scary thought indeed.
Even with a population so large, this sort of thing should not be a regular weekly/monthly occurrence.
Planeforger
Im probably a bad person now in the eyes of everyone else now but Im beginning to find it hard to care about these stories anymoreTwoFace-BS
well when they happen damn near every day, you kinda get desensitized to it.
Smart man.Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
Well said.
Loose gun control for 200+ years yet only recently have public shootings been happening on a very regular basis, especially ones in school. It's pretty obvious it has very little to do with the gun control and more to do with our culture.
Another big issue is how the media spreads reports of these things all across the country and everybody hears about it. That just gives these people who are already high risk for violence more ideas and breaks down the walls to do it.
There is no easy solution. I believe our younger generations are suffering due to a new wave of "modern" parenting that hasn't been working at all. Ask any teacher and they'll say each year their kids have been a bit more unruley. Modern parenting is far less strict than before and parents tend to let the kids walk all over them. Kids are also not taught to stand up for themselves as much and a lot of parents completely ignore obvious issues kids have with bullying and whatnot. To make it worse, a lot of the parents just dump off their duties as a parent on other people. This really hurts the kids. The increase of seperated families too can be seen as a direct contributer to this.
Of course this just covers just kids. I have no idea why adults would believe that you can solve issues by shooting others.
Wasdie
There's a lack of parent-child responsibility these days, no doubt about it. As a matter of strictness, we have become way too strict in terms of the law.
Our culture is messed up. I think we have become too reliant on the law to fix our problems when the aftermath of a verdict carrys serious repercussions on a person. We're too stupid to realize this and creates bigger problems.
As I stated before several times, there's a lack of self-responsibility these days.
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Gun Control....
Chaos_HL21
Well schools are "Gun Free Zones", and you need to be over 18 to legally own a long gun (21 for handgun). More gun control will not stop stuff like this.
Really? more gun control won't stop stuff like this? I live in Canada... and school shootings are very rare here..There are shootings here don't get me wrong.. Toronto this past summer, a few in Ottawa.. etc.. it's going to happen.. The shootings here don't even come close to the amount that happen in the states. It's a given we have a smaller population and there for less people with guns, but even the idea of someone having a gun here isridiculous.
Getting my hands on a gun here is very difficult... I have some pretty large drug dealers in my area, a few I know personally and they can;t even get their hands on a gun.. There are so many background checks, waiting periods, and licenses you need here to legally buy a gun.
You know the biggest problem Canada has with guns right now? Is that people are smuggling them in from good ol USA. I love the states, you guys have done some amazing things, its a beautiful country, and I visit often. But my god people there are ignorant.. ignorant to new ideas and thinking outside the box.. There have been some unbelivable shooting crimes and murders in the states this past summer.. Yet your politicians believe gun control is not the answer... sigh..
I just don't know what it's going to take.. It would not surprise me to see more Americans being killed on their own soil every year then off on the battlefield..
So naturally more gun control would help stop illegal gun use? It will stop underage people from getting their hands on a gun? Bullsh!t. Just like how the fact that weed is illegal stops people from using it right?
Im probably a bad person now in the eyes of everyone else now but Im beginning to find it hard to care about these stories anymoreTwoFace-BSYou're not a bad person. This reaction is to be expected when you see it over and over again. I'm feeling the same way.
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