Seems a little weird to me for a church to be giving out guns.
So it's OK to give away steaks ?. For me, a church or any religious organizations give away any material gifts as a means to lure new recruits is just wrong. I mean by giving incentives to potential members, they indirectly admit their beliefs are not very good or philosophically sound.
In other word, that just proves their belief is totally bankrupt.
Seems a little weird to me for a church to be giving out guns.
So it's OK to give away steaks ?. For me, a church or any religious organizations give away any material gifts as a means to lure new recruits is just wrong. I mean by giving incentives to potential members, they indirectly admit their beliefs are not very good or philosophically sound.
In other word, that just proves their belief is totally bankrupt.
Nah that's the wrong interpretation (you might be right if, say, they gave away steaks every week to people who attended). But as is it's basically an incentive to come and learn about their beliefs for people who otherwise might not take the chance to learn about them, and then they hope as people learn about their beliefs some of them will come to agree with them.
It's really no different from an information-style incentive/nudge in any other context.
Well hell, why can't that happen here. I could use a new gun and steaks.
It's okay, TC isn't being totally honest.
"As many as 1,000 people are expected at the next one...they will be given a free steak dinner and the chance to win one of 25 handguns, long guns and shotguns."
While steak is nice, it's not guaranteed you'd actually leave with a gun.
Well hell, why can't that happen here. I could use a new gun and steaks.
It's okay, TC isn't being totally honest.
"As many as 1,000 people are expected at the next one...they will be given a free steak dinner and the chance to win one of 25 handguns, long guns and shotguns."
While steak is nice, it's not guaranteed you'd actually leave with a gun.
I would still go for the chance to win. I still get the steak dinner.
Food items' distribution and giveaway is a classical strategy of religious groups to attract followers or at least to get them to knock on their doors. Its really pitiful and it actually defeats the purpose of religion as a set of spiritual beliefs and commitments. Its also quite sleazy and amoral because the strategy is most effective in poor regions around the world so what religious groups would be effectively doing by giving away food is exploiting people's needs and pauperism and for reasons that are mostly partisan rather than religious. So the whole thing is both amoral and detrimental to any specific religion. Such religious groups are nothing but free riders that use the religious speech as a way to recruit followers and garner publicity and influence. Around here, food items distribution is the central mobilizing and recruiting strategy of certain political [religious] factions because we have some really dirt poor people and they'd do anything for food and a semblance of financial security. They created monsters of them.
In this specific instance however, I don't think it qualifies as food giveaway. They're basically organizing a dinner event that's it. The wing a gun part is idiotic nevertheless.
Seems a little weird to me for a church to be giving out guns.
Agreed. Not kosher IMO.
@jackfruitchips said:
@chessmaster1989 said:
Seems a little weird to me for a church to be giving out guns.
So it's OK to give away steaks ?. For me, a church or any religious organizations give away any material gifts as a means to lure new recruits is just wrong. I mean by giving incentives to potential members, they indirectly admit their beliefs are not very good or philosophically sound.
In other word, that just proves their belief is totally bankrupt.
Of course it's okay for a church to give away food.
And to say that giving away steaks means that the beliefs are automatically bankrupt is a HUGE logical leap.
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