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#1 whipassmt
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Here are some links to Obama's friend William Ayers a 1960's radical who bombed the capitol building

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html

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#2 Yakeato
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My friends have a friend who's a terrorist.
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Old as mccain.
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#4 LostProphetFLCL
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Am I supposed to care?

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#5 brightshadow525
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Wait... I thought Obama was a terrorist himself....

P.S. I was just joking... Don't crucify me liberals...

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#6 SmashBrosLegend
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Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL
Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.
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#7 CrimzonTide
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I was in a pre-school class with someone who turned out to be a serial killer. Does that make me a bad person?
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#8 LostProphetFLCL
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Am I supposed to care?

SmashBrosLegend

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

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#9 whipassmt
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Old as mccain. xSIZEMATTER
what's his age have to do with anything.
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I was in a pre-school class with someone who turned out to be a serial killer. Does that make me a bad person?CrimzonTide
Yes. Yes it does.
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#11 CrimzonTide
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Yes. Yes it does. jaydough
Dammit, I shouldn't of said anything. >_>
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[QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. whipassmt
what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

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Here are some links to Obama's friend William Ayers a 1960's radical who bombed the capitol building

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html

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im friends with a mass murderer.
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#14 Krazy_duck
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Ooooooh. Burn. But really, what is the political system coming to? I literally facepalmed when I heard about Hillary making a big deal of Obama's commetns the other day, yet when P.A voters were asked, they pretty much didnt give a **** about his comments. The issues, people, lets talk abuot the issues.

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#15 GettingTired
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He doesn't sound like a bad guy. I don't see what the deal is.
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[QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. whipassmt
what's his age have to do with anything.

A lot. That man may kick the bucket any second. I feel bad for the old man, hobbling about.

PS, did you know he openly used a racial slur for Asians?

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. Maniacc1

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

:lol: If I was going to vote I would vote for him, it's just hes so damn old :P

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

Krazy_duck

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Ooooooh. Burn. But really, what is the political system coming to? I literally facepalmed when I heard about Hillary making a big deal of Obama's commetns the other day, yet when P.A voters were asked, they pretty much didnt give a **** about his comments. The issues, people, lets talk abuot the issues.

Yeah it was a relief to hear the comments hadn't effected peoples opinions, especially seeing as there was nothing wrong with them to begin with and the only reason any fuss was made was because of that dumb ***** Hillary. Her campaign has got to be the worst I have ever personally witnessed and I am so mad that she is in this election still. Anyone who gave a damn about the party would have stepped down by now and also had made sure to not sit their and constantly mudsling a fellow party member. She may have gotten Mccain the election with her idiotic campaign which means that this country could very well be screwed....

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. Maniacc1

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

and Obama could get assassinated by the KKK, and Clinton can get assassinated too. so they all can die within 2 years.
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#20 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. xSIZEMATTER

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

:lol: If I was going to vote I would vote for him, it's just hes so damn old :P

Yeah I don't take his age as a serious point, but I LOVE joking around about it.

His problem is his views on foreign affairs and his lack of knowlege about economics. Those 2 points make him completely unvoteable in my book....

Sadly I may have to vote Hillary if shes pulls the nomination out of her ass just to keep Mccain from winning. I wish I could do my idea of voting for Chuck Norris if both candidates weren't good, but I really fear Mccain as president terribly....

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#21 Lil_Dwayne
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. whipassmt

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

and Obama could get assassinated by the KKK, and Clinton can get assassinated too. so they all can die within 2 years.

That statement was pretty uncool.

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The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

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#23 xSIZEMATTER
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Hillary For president=/USA :P
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#24 Krazy_duck
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. whipassmt

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

and Obama could get assassinated by the KKK, and Clinton can get assassinated too. so they all can die within 2 years.

If youd ever taken statistics or really had any common sense, the chance of a 70 + year old man whose had cancer before and is an ex POW dying in two years is far greater than one of the youngest ever candidates and a healthy Hillary Clinton

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#25 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.
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The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

btstlouis

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

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#27 Serraph105
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can we just stop with all the retarted Obama/Clinton bashing threads already? they dont usually make any valid point as to why we shouldnt vote for them and over half of them are fake to begin with plus the clutter up gamespot and they annoy me.
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#28 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="btstlouis"]

The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

LostProphetFLCL

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

Insignificant? The man planted a bomb in the Pentagon.
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#29 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

SmashBrosLegend

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.

The guilt by association thing is what most people are stuck on, and if you actually looked into his stances on issues you would know that at least there his judgement isn't poor which is the only thing that matters.

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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.

The guilt by association thing is what most people are stuck on, and if you actually looked into his stances on issues you would know that at least there his judgement isn't poor which is the only thing that matters.

Really? The absolute worst thing you can do for a struggling economy is raise taxes. That's exactly what he'll do with his healthcare and mortgage bail-out policies. And do you know how many innocent lives stand to be lost by our withdrawal from Iraq? No one like war, and our reasons for being there are questionable. But leaving now would be comepletely and totally irresponsible.
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#31 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="btstlouis"]

The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

SmashBrosLegend

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

Insignificant? The man planted a bomb in the Pentagon.

So? The discussion is about Obama, not the man.

The insignificant part is his connection to Obama.

BTW, do you realize that our founding fathers were in fact terrorists in their own right?

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#32 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="btstlouis"]

The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

LostProphetFLCL

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

Insignificant? The man planted a bomb in the Pentagon.

So? The discussion is about Obama, not the man.

The insignificant part is his connection to Obama.

BTW, do you realize that our founding fathers were in fact terrorists in their own right?

His connection to Obama is indeed significant. It's not as if this is an isolated incident. He repeatedly associates and openly himself with a former domestic terrorist. Obama visted the man in his home in hopes of campaign support. They served together on the Wood Fund Board. Obama's campaign has said that he considers the man his friend.
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

SmashBrosLegend

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.

The guilt by association thing is what most people are stuck on, and if you actually looked into his stances on issues you would know that at least there his judgement isn't poor which is the only thing that matters.

Really? The absolute worst thing you can do for a struggling economy is raise taxes. That's exactly what he'll do with his healthcare and mortgage bail-out policies. And do you know how many innocent lives stand to be lost by our withdrawal from Iraq? No one like war, and our reasons for being there are questionable. But leaving now would be comepletely and totally irresponsible.

Seeing as the taxes will be used to pay for healthcare, it really isn't going to be taking much of any extra money out of peoples pockets as then we will be saving on insurance and medical expenses. Staying in Iraq is just going to drain more money from this country and FYI the war is the MAJOR cause of the recession.

Oh good God it isn't going to get any better in Iraq than it is now. No matter what we do when we leave there is bound to be conflict and for now our presence there is just fostering additional conflict.

His stance on Iraq is only my 2nd biggest issue I take with the man. He is ready to start war with Iran WHILE keeping our presence in Iraq. That is just downright stupid as we do NOT need to be starting conlict with Iran especially while trying to keep a presence in Iraq. Attacking Iran could damn well lead to a 3rd World War especially with the way tensions are now not to mention the very least it would do is cripple our economy even more.

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#34 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="btstlouis"]

The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

SmashBrosLegend

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

Insignificant? The man planted a bomb in the Pentagon.

So? The discussion is about Obama, not the man.

The insignificant part is his connection to Obama.

BTW, do you realize that our founding fathers were in fact terrorists in their own right?

His connection to Obama is indeed significant. It's not as if this is an isolated incident. He repeatedly associates and openly himself with a former domestic terrorist. Obama visted the man in his home in hopes of campaign support. They served together on the Wood Fund Board. Obama's campaign has said that he considers the man his friend.

And is the man bombing places now? No.

Thats like calling someone a criminal/stupid for associating with an ex-con. Do you know the man? Have you talked to him lately? Didn't think so.

Who the hell are you to try and say someone is a terrible person by judging on one previous incident that occured what, decades ago? Good Lord times change and people change, get over it.

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#35 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.

The guilt by association thing is what most people are stuck on, and if you actually looked into his stances on issues you would know that at least there his judgement isn't poor which is the only thing that matters.

Really? The absolute worst thing you can do for a struggling economy is raise taxes. That's exactly what he'll do with his healthcare and mortgage bail-out policies. And do you know how many innocent lives stand to be lost by our withdrawal from Iraq? No one like war, and our reasons for being there are questionable. But leaving now would be comepletely and totally irresponsible.

Seeing as the taxes will be used to pay for healthcare, it really isn't going to be taking much of any extra money out of peoples pockets as then we will be saving on insurance and medical expenses. Staying in Iraq is just going to drain more money from this country and FYI the war is the MAJOR cause of the recession.

Oh good God it isn't going to get any better in Iraq than it is now. No matter what we do when we leave there is bound to be conflict and for now our presence there is just fostering additional conflict.

His stance on Iraq is only my 2nd biggest issue I take with the man. He is ready to start war with Iran WHILE keeping our presence in Iraq. That is just downright stupid as we do NOT need to be starting conlict with Iran especially while trying to keep a presence in Iraq. Attacking Iran could damn well lead to a 3rd World War especially with the way tensions are now not to mention the very least it would do is cripple our economy even more.

1. Over 80% of Americans are already covered by health insurance according to the 2004 US census. His plan would punish the majority with higher taxes. When the upper-class gets heavily taxed, the prices of goods increases. 2. We owe 53 trillion dollars RIGHT NOW on our social security and medicare. Am I to understand that you would sacrifice the lives of 100s of 1000s of Iraqis to save money? 3. Are we to simply sit back and wait for Iran to nuke someone?
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#36 Helloiseeu
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Who gives? Unless he is associating politics its not bad.
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#37 blackngold29
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I wasn't gonna vote for him anyway, this just gives me more reason not to.
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#38 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

SmashBrosLegend

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Where did I say guilt by association? I said he was guilty of poor judgement.

The guilt by association thing is what most people are stuck on, and if you actually looked into his stances on issues you would know that at least there his judgement isn't poor which is the only thing that matters.

Really? The absolute worst thing you can do for a struggling economy is raise taxes. That's exactly what he'll do with his healthcare and mortgage bail-out policies. And do you know how many innocent lives stand to be lost by our withdrawal from Iraq? No one like war, and our reasons for being there are questionable. But leaving now would be comepletely and totally irresponsible.

Seeing as the taxes will be used to pay for healthcare, it really isn't going to be taking much of any extra money out of peoples pockets as then we will be saving on insurance and medical expenses. Staying in Iraq is just going to drain more money from this country and FYI the war is the MAJOR cause of the recession.

Oh good God it isn't going to get any better in Iraq than it is now. No matter what we do when we leave there is bound to be conflict and for now our presence there is just fostering additional conflict.

His stance on Iraq is only my 2nd biggest issue I take with the man. He is ready to start war with Iran WHILE keeping our presence in Iraq. That is just downright stupid as we do NOT need to be starting conlict with Iran especially while trying to keep a presence in Iraq. Attacking Iran could damn well lead to a 3rd World War especially with the way tensions are now not to mention the very least it would do is cripple our economy even more.

1. Over 80% of Americans are already covered by health insurance according to the 2004 US census. His plan would punish the majority with higher taxes. When the upper-class gets heavily taxed, the prices of goods increases. 2. We owe 53 trillion dollars RIGHT NOW on our social security and medicare. Am I to understand that you would sacrifice the lives of 100s of 1000s of Iraqis to save money? 3. Are we to simply sit back and wait for Iran to nuke someone?

1) Have you seen Sicko? You do realize that those insurance companies cause the deaths of innocent people, right? They do EVERYTHING in their power to keep from covering you, and examiners are ranked based on how many people the TURN AWAY!!!

The insurance system is downright awful and actually it is this system that drives up the cost of medicen by a ****load. In Sicko, this lady couldn't afford her inhalers here because they were $100. However, when going to Cuba she was able to get them for $5, I think less.

Oh and yeah, our presence there is only delaying the inevitable and causing more deaths at the same time. Not only that, but it is not at all our job to keep them from killing themselves. They have a government, it needs to take some damn responsibility.

2) And those programs will no longer be needed with universal healthcare.

3) ok, you just provide this proof that Iran is even trying to develope nuclear weapons, maybe then I will worry.

As big of a ******* nutjob as Ahmidimejad is, anyone would know that the second they send out a nuke Iran will be blown to the ground.

The threat of mutual destruction proved itself to work throughout the cold war which lasted decades. It will be enough to last till that one leader is gone.

Not to mention, why the hell is force neccessary here? What the hell happened to diplomacy?

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#39 yabbicoke
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Zomg, he's also Muslim, and racist, and loves his racist preacher!!!!11!!
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#40 blackngold29
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Zomg, he's also Muslim, and racist, and loves his racist preacher!!!!11!!yabbicoke
No he isn't. I won't vote for him, but I won't lie about him either.
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#41 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"][QUOTE="btstlouis"]

The problem is that if hypothetically his dad could be proved to be a terrorist and it wouldnt be a big deal.

Stupid liberal media.

LostProphetFLCL

Well obviously parental influence is something to take seriously, but here we are just talking about general people he has known. I do believe he was in a group with that terrorist a while back and is no longer part of it, but this is just me trying to remember something insignificant from a while back.

Insignificant? The man planted a bomb in the Pentagon.

So? The discussion is about Obama, not the man.

The insignificant part is his connection to Obama.

BTW, do you realize that our founding fathers were in fact terrorists in their own right?

His connection to Obama is indeed significant. It's not as if this is an isolated incident. He repeatedly associates and openly himself with a former domestic terrorist. Obama visted the man in his home in hopes of campaign support. They served together on the Wood Fund Board. Obama's campaign has said that he considers the man his friend.

And is the man bombing places now? No.

Thats like calling someone a criminal/stupid for associating with an ex-con. Do you know the man? Have you talked to him lately? Didn't think so.

Who the hell are you to try and say someone is a terrible person by judging on one previous incident that occured what, decades ago? Good Lord times change and people change, get over it.

Not one incident: "They avoided the police and FBI while bombing high-profile government buildings — including the United States Capitol (two bombs on March 1, 1970), The Pentagon (May 19, 1972), and the Harry S Truman Building which houses the United States Department of State (on January 29, 1975) — along with several banks, police department headquarters and precincts, state and federal courthouses, and state prison administrative offices." And if Osama bin Laden just up and started acting like a model citizen, would he be forgiven? I realize that the two aren't comparable in scale; it's the principle of the matter. He attempted to take the lives of innocents for his own political gain.
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#42 Sports-Fan
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

LostProphetFLCL

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

Guilt by association is an incredibly lame thing.

I wonder has anyone actualy looked into the issues in this campaign? I mean, you obviously didn't see as you are supporting Mccain, a man who will throw us into even more war and has next to no knowledge on economics while our economy is in a recession.....

Great post. Ironic how a Mccain supporter is talking about 'lack of marbles.'
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#43 Bloodbath_87
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]Old as mccain. Maniacc1

what's his age have to do with anything.

Not much, just the fact that he might die within 2 years of getting elected. No biggie.

He's 71, not 91, and seems to be in pretty decent shape not counting problems he has physically due to his torture. I wouldn't worry about him dying anytime soon. Hilary or Obama could come down with something and die in two years as well, you never know. That's what the VP is for.
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#44 SmashBrosLegend
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>

1) Have you seen Sicko? You do realize that those insurance companies cause the deaths of innocent people, right? They do EVERYTHING in their power to keep from covering you, and examiners are ranked based on how many people the TURN AWAY!!!

The insurance system is downright awful and actually it is this system that drives up the cost of medicen by a ****load. In Sicko, this lady couldn't afford her inhalers here because they were $100. However, when going to Cuba she was able to get them for $5, I think less.

Oh and yeah, our presence there is only delaying the inevitable and causing more deaths at the same time. Not only that, but it is not at all our job to keep them from killing themselves. They have a government, it needs to take some damn responsibility.

2) And those programs will no longer be needed with universal healthcare.

3) ok, you just provide this proof that Iran is even trying to develope nuclear weapons, maybe then I will worry.

As big of a ******* nutjob as Ahmidimejad is, anyone would know that the second they send out a nuke Iran will be blown to the ground.

The threat of mutual destruction proved itself to work throughout the cold war which lasted decades. It will be enough to last till that one leader is gone.

Not to mention, why the hell is force neccessary here? What the hell happened to diplomacy?

LostProphetFLCL
You just invalidated your entire argument. Sicko is not valid in any political argument. You're citing 100% propaganda. Michael Moore used anecdotal evidence, misrepresented the views of people he interviewed, used questionable sources, and manipulated data. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/27/sicko-debunked-by-nhs-nurse/
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#45 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Am I supposed to care?

SmashBrosLegend

Yes. If anything, it should speak to the man's judgement. So far he's been closely associated with racists (Jeremiah Wright), slum lords (Tony Rezko), and former domestic terrorists (Ayers). Anyone who would willingly surround himself with those types of people while running for public office can't have all his marbles.

And what does that have to do with Obama? McCain is more than likely have associates just as bad or worse than what you have mentioned. So I doubt it's any worse if I vote for McCain than Obama. And stop quoting Wikipedia damn it.

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#46 LostProphetFLCL
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Not one incident: "They avoided the police and FBI while bombing high-profile government buildings — including the United States Capitol (two bombs on March 1, 1970), The Pentagon (May 19, 1972), and the Harry S Truman Building which houses the United States Department of State (on January 29, 1975) — along with several banks, police department headquarters and precincts, state and federal courthouses, and state prison administrative offices." And if Osama bin Laden just up and started acting like a model citizen, would he be forgiven? I realize that the two aren't comparable in scale; it's the principle of the matter. He attempted to take the lives of innocents for his own political gain. SmashBrosLegend

First things first: Time to kill the quote tree, lol.

Anyways, notice how those are stll over 30 year old incidents? Did Obama himself take place in any of it? NO!

Osama wouldn't have a chance because he is pretty much a dead man walking at this point. It would be hard to forgive him seeing as much as he did, and I think the main difference between these two men isn't just the extent of their actions, but the duration and style.

Osama isn't just bombing places, but he is also brainwashing people which is more dangerous in my mind. Not only that, but he has made it his life.

Like you mentioned, that really isn't a great comparison.

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Not one incident: "They avoided the police and FBI while bombing high-profile government buildings — including the United States Capitol (two bombs on March 1, 1970), The Pentagon (May 19, 1972), and the Harry S Truman Building which houses the United States Department of State (on January 29, 1975) — along with several banks, police department headquarters and precincts, state and federal courthouses, and state prison administrative offices." And if Osama bin Laden just up and started acting like a model citizen, would he be forgiven? I realize that the two aren't comparable in scale; it's the principle of the matter. He attempted to take the lives of innocents for his own political gain.SmashBrosLegend

Mind telling me what Osama did for political gain exactly? I mean he is hiding in a mountain, or dead, or still alive and plotting more attacks, whatever the republicans are spitting out this month.

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#48 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]>

1) Have you seen Sicko? You do realize that those insurance companies cause the deaths of innocent people, right? They do EVERYTHING in their power to keep from covering you, and examiners are ranked based on how many people the TURN AWAY!!!

The insurance system is downright awful and actually it is this system that drives up the cost of medicen by a ****load. In Sicko, this lady couldn't afford her inhalers here because they were $100. However, when going to Cuba she was able to get them for $5, I think less.

Oh and yeah, our presence there is only delaying the inevitable and causing more deaths at the same time. Not only that, but it is not at all our job to keep them from killing themselves. They have a government, it needs to take some damn responsibility.

2) And those programs will no longer be needed with universal healthcare.

3) ok, you just provide this proof that Iran is even trying to develope nuclear weapons, maybe then I will worry.

As big of a ******* nutjob as Ahmidimejad is, anyone would know that the second they send out a nuke Iran will be blown to the ground.

The threat of mutual destruction proved itself to work throughout the cold war which lasted decades. It will be enough to last till that one leader is gone.

Not to mention, why the hell is force neccessary here? What the hell happened to diplomacy?

SmashBrosLegend

You just invalidated your entire argument. Sicko is not valid in any political argument. You're citing 100% propaganda. Michael Moore used anecdotal evidence, misrepresented the views of people he interviewed, used questionable sources, and manipulated data. http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/06/27/sicko-debunked-by-nhs-nurse/

LMAO invalidated? Sicko is a much more credible source than anything you've given, not to mention how that article does next to nothing to fight Sicko's arguement:lol:

Before I even begin, I must say congradulations of citing 100% propoganda:lol:

First off, questionable sources? You mean the WHO rating of world healthcare systems? You mean the former insurance company workers and current ones who dished out the denials themselves? You mean that you can prove that Moore managed to magically falsify their entire trip to Cuba, especially when they discussed the price of their meds?

Your link is sad as it goes after Britain, when yet it is FRANCE that got ranked the best with its socialized healthcare system.

Not only that, but it is throwing out the same old tired counter-Sicko arguements that I have walked all-over many times before.

You know those incredible waiting lists? Those don't involve emergancy surgeries/life-threatening situations. Not only that, but are you even aware of the waiting lists we have here for transplants? Don't see anyone freaking out demanding change because of those!

As for the hospital conditions, are you even aware of how bad some hospitals here are? I can tell you straight out I live right down the street from a hospital with rat infestations. Not only that, but did you fail to catch the story of the woman in the hospital who died on the floor and got caught on video with a janitor cleaning around her and nurses ignoring her?

There is a simple solution to such a thing and that is enforced regulations.

BTW, you completely ignored the rest of my arguement which I take as a sign of weakness in your position.

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He's friends with someone who did a bad thing.. and? :|
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#50 Video_Game_King
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Seems like more of the anti-Obama sentiment I've heard of. Does everybody want Hillary?