Basketball Shoes - Does weight "really" matter?

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#1 Digital_DJ_00
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I personally play basketball at a recreational level. I'm not a pro per say, but I do take it seriously and believe that certain advantages matter. However, it has come to my attention that basketball shoe designers and companies are making a big deal out of shoe weight. Now I'm not exactly sure when lightness in a shoe became a big deal for basketball, but it wasn't always like this. You've got shoes like the Adidas Crazy Light & Crazy Light 2 being the "lightest basketball shoes ever", but let's sit back for a moment and ask ourselves - does weight really even matter? Now if the shoes weighed over 1lbs then I would definately think otherwise, but the average basketball shoe weighs 15 ounces. Are basketball makers trying to convince us that shedding 5 - 6 oz off of a shoe is gonna make a big difference? Quite frankly, unless a shoe weighs over 30 oz then I really think it isn't going make one bit of difference performance wise. In my experience it's traction, durability, ankle support, cushioning, & comfort that matters in a shoe. But weight? Really? Call me crazy, but if I was wearing shoes that weighed 9.5 oz I'd feel like it would fall apart or break at any moment, which is a big deal to me if I'm dropping more than $100 on a pair of shoes. I personally find the Adidas Crazy Lights a marketing gimmick more than a performance shoe, because the last time I checked 9.8 oz shoe isn't going to be any different than a 15 oz shoe when dunking. Maybe running, but not jumping...

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#3 Digital_DJ_00
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How?

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#4 Hubadubalubahu
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I shaved .5 oz off my shoes and now I go hard in the paint.

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#5 TacticalDesire
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I agree, seems alot like a marketing ploy, but hey I guess it kind of goes back to the whole, why not get every advantage you can get?

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I'm almost certain if my shoes weighed a few ounces less I'd be in the NBA right now

So of course.

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#7 cheese_game619
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add up how much extra weight you lift each time you lift each leg in a basketball game thats the difference
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#8 austi722
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Lets say if your shoes weighed 5 pounds you won't be balling. If your shoes weighed 0. You'll be balling if you can play. Your shoes can weigh you down,etc. For me it doesn't matter, I just buy basketball shoes since they're the only shoes that look good besides Casual and skater shoes. Pretty much more weight=Bad less weight=Good

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add up how much extra weight you lift each time you lift each leg in a basketball game thats the differencecheese_game619


Yeah but you can't argue the fact that your feet won't tell the difference between 9.8 oz compared to lets say...15 oz. I personally don't like the feeling of balling in running shoes, which usually weigh at those numbers. I like the feeling of shoes that are locked down and ready to enforce the court with them.

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Ball shoes are top heavy to support your ankles and tend to have a thick sole to cushion you landing on hardcourt surfaces; thus, they're usually heavier than non-studded sports shoes. Weight does matter. But be wary, as the right amount of support and flow to the feet is the more important and it differs from person to person. The most sensible thing to do is to just try them on.
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#11 munkeypoo45
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though i dont play basketball that much anymore, im a tennis player and i definintely feel a difference between running, basketball, and tennis shoes. tennis shoes are very light which greatly improve agility and maneuverability.

so yes i would say it does matter cause for basketball you need to be quick on your toes, be able to sprint and jump quickly as well.

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#12 Digital_DJ_00
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I'm almost certain if my shoes weighed a few ounces less I'd be in the NBA right now

So of course.

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You're pretty confident. Good luck putting those skills on the same court as Lebron James or Derrick Rose. I'm not putting you down bro, but NBA stars know basketball like it's their primary instict & purpose.

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Ball shoes are top heavy to support your ankles and tend to have a thick sole to cushion you landing on hardcourt surfaces; thus, they're usually heavier than non-studded sports shoes. Weight does matter. But be wary, as the right amount of support and flow to the feet is the more important and it differs from person to person. The most sensible thing to do is to just try them on.illmatic87


Agree.

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[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]add up how much extra weight you lift each time you lift each leg in a basketball game thats the differenceDigital_DJ_00



Yeah but you can't argue the fact that your feet won't tell the difference between 9.8 oz compared to lets say...15 oz. I personally don't like the feeling of balling in running shoes, which usually weigh at those numbers. I like the feeling of shoes that are locked down and ready to enforce the court with them.

its not that little you can pick them up and straight away they feel noticeably lighter that much weight can easily be the difference between tipping the ball away or not, just keeping the ball in play or not; especially as the game wears on and your legs tire
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I bought a pair of Kobe's and immediately noticed a difference when playing (had a clunky pair of Jordan's before). Fatigue and next day soreness were a lot less.
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You don't want to ball in bulky asss shoes like crazy 8's or Air force 1's,sh*t feels like you ballin in timbs
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You don't want to ball in bulky asss shoes like crazy 8's or Air force 1's,sh*t feels like you ballin in timbs Bucked20


Crazy 8's actually have awesome court traction, but you're right; they're definately heavier than most shoes. (16 oz) Plus they have zero breathability which is a turn off for ballers that hate sweat build up in their socks/shoes.

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#18 Agent-Zero
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Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.
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#19 branketra
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Get some weighted shoes then go play.
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Just steal a pair of Shaq's Size 23's. One size fits all, right?
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#21 Omni-Slash
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10 pound shoes would make it much harder for me to dunk...
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Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.Agent-Zero

This. Also, Air Jordans that MJ wore weigh ALOT more than shoes of today. I'm pretty sure MJ could still ball effectively in them though.

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For as much as I play, I never got too into the whole shoe thing. I don't know the new models that come out or the weights of any of the shoes. I usually buy my shoes from Eastbay without trying them on. I've had some winners and some losers, but weight was only one factor. I remember having LeBrons that felt heavy and hindered my movement though. Now I have some Nike Air Max for indoors and Nike Air Quick Handle for outdoors. They feel all right so I'll use them until the traction goes. Weight does matter but only in the overall sense of a personal comfort with the shoes. Also, I feel more comfortable in the post with heavier shoes. Maybe it's just psychological.
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[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.sayyy-gaa

This. Also, Air Jordans that MJ wore weigh ALOT more than shoes of today. I'm pretty sure MJ could still ball effectively in them though.

In MJ's case, you also have to take into account that he's one of the best players of all time. How many other players can do what did?
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Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.Agent-Zero


This. This can also be applied to Shooter Sleeves, which I doubt makes a difference. But I might get some just because they look cool and would go well with my over-all get up, but I won't be expecting it to give me better shooting accuracy.

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[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.sayyy-gaa

This. Also, Air Jordans that MJ wore weigh ALOT more than shoes of today. I'm pretty sure MJ could still ball effectively in them though.

everyone else was in heavier shoes as well, geniuses
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#27 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

yes

Digital_DJ_00



How?

I think it's mainly with the mind. If you're feet feel noticeably lighter, you feel like you can jump higher, run faster, etc...

Heavy shoes when you're playing for an hour or whatever is impractical.

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[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]Placebo effect. It might not actually do anything, but you think it does thus it increases your performance.cheese_game619

This. Also, Air Jordans that MJ wore weigh ALOT more than shoes of today. I'm pretty sure MJ could still ball effectively in them though.

everyone else was in heavier shoes as well, geniuses



They know that, they were directing that at Michael Jordan specifically. Talking about a tree, not the whole forest. Genius.

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[QUOTE="cheese_game619"][QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

This. Also, Air Jordans that MJ wore weigh ALOT more than shoes of today. I'm pretty sure MJ could still ball effectively in them though.

Digital_DJ_00

everyone else was in heavier shoes as well, geniuses



They know that, they were directing that at Michael Jordan specifically. Talking about a tree, not the whole forest. Genius.

michael jordan specifically, who was effective in a time when everyone was wearing heavier shoes if the jordan of old played in the same shoes as he did back then in todays game he would be at a disadvantage
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A simple way to answer this question would be to get some weighted shoes or ankle weights then go see for yourself.
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#31 Digital_DJ_00
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A simple way to answer this question would be to get some weighted shoes or ankle weights then go see for yourself. BranKetra


Read the initial thread starting post... I'm very well aware THAT much weight would make a difference, my argue point was the difference between 5 - 6 ounces. Thanks for wasting my time.

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#32 Digital_DJ_00
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[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]

[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]everyone else was in heavier shoes as well, geniusescheese_game619



They know that, they were directing that at Michael Jordan specifically. Talking about a tree, not the whole forest. Genius.

michael jordan specifically, who was effective in a time when everyone was wearing heavier shoes if the jordan of old played in the same shoes as he did back then in todays game he would be at a disadvantage



Really? Because I don't think so. Most players during the 60's & 70's wore PF Flyers and Converse styled shoes, which are considerably lighter than MJ's Air Jordan 1.

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Wilt Chamberlin

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Larry Bird

Everyone wearing heavier shoes? Some yeah, but not everyone... Considering MJ is one of the best dunkers of all time, I think it's safe to assume that his Air Jordan 1 didn't hinder is vertical or floating dunks.

Michael Jordan wearing his signature Air Jordan 1's.

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I see no disadvantage. I see awesome hang time and flight.