Best Entry-Level Digital SLR Camera?

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#1 McJugga
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I am looking at getting into photography, and was wondering if anyone knows of any good entry-level cameras.

Thanks for the help!

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#2 acmx22
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olympus are good camerashttp://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_digital_slr.asp

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#3 Baranga
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I'm a journalist student. I use a Sony Alpha 300. I only used a regular digital camera before this one. The Alpha 300 is not exactly entry-level, but in a few days you'll be pretty good with it.

Here's a video review.

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#4 bean-with-bacon
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Have a look at some of these Nikon d40 or d60 Pentak k200d or k20d Sony a200, a300, or a350 Canon 450d That's all I can think of off hand, however you should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later. You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.
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#5 McJugga
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You should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later.

You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.bean-with-bacon

Which brand would have to most variety of lenses?

Can you give me an example of a good photography forum?

Thanks for the help.

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[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]You should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later.

You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.McJugga

Which brand would have to most variety of lenses?

Can you give me an example of a good photography forum?

Thanks for the help.

http://www.dpreview.com/

There's a good one.

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[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]You should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later.

You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.McJugga

Which brand would have to most variety of lenses?

Can you give me an example of a good photography forum?

Thanks for the help.

I think Canon and Nikon are considered to have the best and largest range, but I'd imagine that's only when you get into the really professional stuff, Pentax, Olympus, Sony etc all have fine ranges for any enthusiast. As for forums you could try the ones at dpreview and thephotoforum, a google search will turn up more.
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#8 Guybrush_3
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I have a Nikon D40 and I love it. I like it better than my friends Cannon Rebel. and Nikon lenses are great.

If I were to buy one now I would probably go for the D60, but if you are looking for a cheap cammera the D40 is a great choice.

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#9 Dark__Link
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I'd have to agree with a few others: the D40 is probably your best choice.
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[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]You should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later.

You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.McJugga

Which brand would have to most variety of lenses?

Can you give me an example of a good photography forum?

Thanks for the help.

Check out dpreview.com. Sigma makes great lenses, heavy but they last forever. I agree with bacon, body is not important, lenses are important. That being said, don't skimp on the body too much as it can show its flaws when using a more expensive lens. I myself am buying a Canon EOS 450d, but it's not an entry-level camera anymore. It is beyond the class of the D60, and more of a mid-range. In my honest opinion I would forget about Olympus and Sony and go with the Nikon D40 (not D40x). It is a tried and true camera with a good kit lens and hundreds of positive reviews. It's cheap but produces very high quality images.
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[QUOTE="McJugga"]

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]You should go for a cheaper body and spend more on the lenses, a good lense can last forever and be interchanged between cameras of the same brand, you can always get a new body later.

You should also browse through some photography forums, these questions pop up all the time.zombiefruit

Which brand would have to most variety of lenses?

Can you give me an example of a good photography forum?

Thanks for the help.

Check out dpreview.com. Sigma makes great lenses, heavy but they last forever. I agree with bacon, body is not important, lenses are important. That being said, don't skimp on the body too much as it can show its flaws when using a more expensive lens. I myself am buying a Canon EOS 450d, but it's not an entry-level camera anymore. It is beyond the ****of the D60, and more of a mid-range. In my honest opinion I would forget about Olympus and Sony and go with the Nikon D40 (not D40x). It is a tried and true camera with a good kit lens and hundreds of positive reviews. It's cheap but produces very high quality images.

Thanks for that, people here answered my questions without me asking, oh well.

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Several years ago I sold digital cameras but have not kept up with them. So I'm just going to say a Nikon or Canon (at the time it was the Canon Digital Rebel).
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I have an Olympus.

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In my honest opinion I would forget about Olympus and Sony and go with the Nikon D40 (not D40x). It is a tried and true camera with a good kit lens and hundreds of positive reviews. It's cheap but produces very high quality images. zombiefruit

Would the D60 be much better than the D40? About how much do these two cameras cost?

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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]

In my honest opinion I would forget about Olympus and Sony and go with the Nikon D40 (not D40x). It is a tried and true camera with a good kit lens and hundreds of positive reviews. It's cheap but produces very high quality images. McJugga

Would the D60 be much better than the D40? About how much do these two cameras cost?

NOOOOOOO!!!!! The D60 is just a repackaged D40 with a few extra megapixels. Both cameras can only autofocus with new Nikon AF-S lenses, which is a huge problem. If you are willing to pay for a D60, you might as well move up to the EOS 450D (Canon) or the D80. Both the 450D and the D80 have built in focus motors so they use all lenses, and both have good sensors. The D80 is a generation behind the 450D but it is still very good. The reason I'm buying a 450D is because of a few key features: Noise-free sensor up to 1600 iso, Live-view (It's a gimmick unless you do macro photography) and mainly: the ability to use the sub-$100 "nifty-fifty", a wonderful 50mm F/1.8 lens. This lens has an equivalent Nikon model but it cannot autofocus because of the lack of a focus motor.

Anyways, here are your options:

You want a basic beginner's camera with very good photographs: D40.

You want a mid-level camera that will last you until you become professional: D80 or 450D (Just check out the reviews of both on dpreview and make a decision through that).

It really comes down to price and which lenses you want for each. I'm not sure about pricing because I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but I'm getting a new 450D w/kit lens for $650 (I got lucky, I found a guy who won it at work). Retail it goes around $750 new. The D40 goes for $500 here with a kit lens.

EDIT: The Nikon "nifty-fifty" cannot autofocus on the D60 and D40, but it autofocuses on the D80. Just wanted to clear that up.

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I know a couple people in my year who've got SLR cameras for photography class and they've all got Nikon D40s
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NOOOOOOO!!!!! The D60 is just a repackaged D40 with a few extra megapixels. Both cameras can only autofocus with new Nikon AF-S lenses, which is a huge problem. If you are willing to pay for a D60, you might as well move up to the EOS 450D (Canon) or the D80. Both the 450D and the D80 have built in focus motors so they use all lenses, and both have good sensors. The D80 is a generation behind the 450D but it is still very good. The reason I'm buying a 450D is because of a few key features: Noise-free sensor up to 1600 iso, Live-view (It's a gimmick unless you do macro photography) and mainly: the ability to use the sub-$100 "nifty-fifty", a wonderful 50mm F/1.8 lens. This lens has an equivalent Nikon model but it cannot autofocus because of the lack of a focus motor.

Anyways, here are your options:

You want a basic beginner's camera with very good photographs: D40.

You want a mid-level camera that will last you until you become professional: D80 or 450D (Just check out the reviews of both on dpreview and make a decision through that).

It really comes down to price and which lenses you want for each. I'm not sure about pricing because I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but I'm getting a new 450D w/kit lens for $650 (I got lucky, I found a guy who won it at work). Retail it goes around $750 new. The D40 goes for $500 here with a kit lens.

EDIT: The Nikon "nifty-fifty" cannot autofocus on the D60 and D40, but it autofocuses on the D80. Just wanted to clear that up.

zombiefruit

I live in Canada too, so you're prices are actually more useful to me.

Hmm... I might also go for a 450D since noise really bothers me and I do do some macro shots.

If not, I might get the cheaper D40.

Thanks for the help, Zombiefruit.

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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]

NOOOOOOO!!!!! The D60 is just a repackaged D40 with a few extra megapixels. Both cameras can only autofocus with new Nikon AF-S lenses, which is a huge problem. If you are willing to pay for a D60, you might as well move up to the EOS 450D (Canon) or the D80. Both the 450D and the D80 have built in focus motors so they use all lenses, and both have good sensors. The D80 is a generation behind the 450D but it is still very good. The reason I'm buying a 450D is because of a few key features: Noise-free sensor up to 1600 iso, Live-view (It's a gimmick unless you do macro photography) and mainly: the ability to use the sub-$100 "nifty-fifty", a wonderful 50mm F/1.8 lens. This lens has an equivalent Nikon model but it cannot autofocus because of the lack of a focus motor.

Anyways, here are your options:

You want a basic beginner's camera with very good photographs: D40.

You want a mid-level camera that will last you until you become professional: D80 or 450D (Just check out the reviews of both on dpreview and make a decision through that).

It really comes down to price and which lenses you want for each. I'm not sure about pricing because I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but I'm getting a new 450D w/kit lens for $650 (I got lucky, I found a guy who won it at work). Retail it goes around $750 new. The D40 goes for $500 here with a kit lens.

EDIT: The Nikon "nifty-fifty" cannot autofocus on the D60 and D40, but it autofocuses on the D80. Just wanted to clear that up.

McJugga

I live in Canada too, so you're prices are actually more useful to me.

Hmm... I might also go for a 450D since noise really bothers me and I do do some macro shots.

If not, I might get the cheaper D40.

Thanks for the help, Zombiefruit.

No problem. The D40 is a really good camera to start with. You don't really have to worry about the lack of autofocus on non AF-S lenses because the kit lens is an AF-S lens and all new lenses are too. You also will not be buying new lenses for a while because the kit lens is quite good. Definetly check dpreview.com, don't justy take my word for it. About the noise. You won't see noise on any of those cameras at low ISO's, which is mainly what you'll be using. High ISO's add noise but they're for low light situations without a tripod. For most low-light photos you will have brought a tripod with you.

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Do not buy an Olympus. Do not buy a Sony. Do not buy a Pentax (well, unless you have a ton of old Pentax lenses that would work). Canon and Nikon are really the only plausible choices for an SLR camera, unless as mentioned you already have lenses. I'll assume you don't. The D40 is probably the best for its price, as you can find it for under $400 in most places. Yes, it's 'only' 6MP, but unless you crop photos a lot it won't be noticable and it'll take all the big lenses the fancier Nikons will. I bought my D40 back when it came out and I still use it a lot. Fantastic camera, inexpensive, and the build quality is right up there. The cheaper Canons tend to squeak a bit when you squeeze them. If it's priced similarly, the D60 is obviously a refinement of the D40, although I've heard that due to the increase in pixel count it actually performs worse in low light. Can't verify that, though, but it would make sense as a smaller area on the sensor is devoted to each pixel. And other than pixels there are no really notable features added to the D60 other than a VR kit lens and anti-dust...which isn't a problem if you're careful switching lenses. And yeah, as mentioned the only real flaw of the D40 is the lack of focusing pin, which isn't an issue if you've never had an SLR before. If you're interested in getting old lenses it becomes more of an issue, but if you buy new ones pretty much all of them are AF-S and will autofocus. Nikon recently came out with a nice 35mm fixed lens with a massive aperture, which might interest you if you're using the camera for a class or want to take low light and/or action shots. Not sure on its pricing yet in Canada. You might also want to look into a flash if you do a lot of indoor stuff, as personally I cannot stand built-in flashes that blow out the subject like a deer in headlights. You can use cheap flashes, and the SB-400 is pretty decent for its price (I paid $100). It's small, which suits the camera, and doesn't chew up batteries too badly. It lacks the remote use of the more expensive model, but even if you move up in cameras in a couple of years it'll still be a fantastic portable flash.
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#20 McJugga
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I've pretty much decided to go for the D40.

Does anyone know a good Canadian place to get it from? What is considered a good price for this camera without a lense? What is a good price with a lense?

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#21 bluezy
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I got my Canon D30 for $150 on Craigslist. Might be a good idea to look at getting one used, especially if you don't wanna drop $500 on a camera + lenses. I also got a 28-80mm lens and a 70-300mm lens (tofu-lion has the same lens), $150 for the pair. The lenses hadn't even been used, I don't think. Just an idea.
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#22 McJugga
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I got my D40 yesterday for $450 CAD (or $390 USD) and I love it. Thanks to everyone for the help.

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I use a Nikon D60

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Going for a Canon or Nikon never hurts.