Big Bang

Im a christian but i was thinking about believing Big bang and chritianity. Until i found a major hole in the big bang theory the 2nd law of thermo dynamics it completely violates it.

you have to go into further detail

I want more detail. I'm a Christian and i believe in the Big Bang! :o

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

I believe in BIG BANG!

I was watching The Big Bang Theory in the exact same moment I found this thread :o .

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

kneeha

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

kneeha

im pretty sure the whole point is that there were loads of random atoms that spread out and created the universe(if not, this is now known as the Manfattan theory :D)...also i really dont see why christians are so quick to judge the big bang theory, when they believe that the whole complexity of the universe was just randomly created by a god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY

Proof Big Bang exists.

[QUOTE="kneeha"]

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

ProudLarry

Also the universe cant be losing energy because that would violate the first law of thermo dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY

Proof Big Bang exists.

Also the universe cant be losing energy because that would violate the first law of thermo dynamics.

kneeha

almost nothing we know of applies to the universe before the big bang because it probably defied all laws of science

My biggest problem with the Big Bang is the theorized faster-than-light expansion.

An interesting fact, that may provide some insight, or answers. The physicist who concluded that the Universe was expanding (ie. big bang theory) was a Roman Catholic priest. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Now all of you Religion haters who discredit everything said by a religious person better get working on a BS loophole.

[QUOTE="kneeha"]

Also the universe cant be losing energy because that would violate the first law of thermo dynamics.

ProudLarry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY

Proof Big Bang exists.

masterflame10

lol ... is the only thing i can think of to describe this! :lol:

im pretty sure the whole point is that there were loads of random atoms that spread out and created the universe(if not, this is now known as the Manfattan theory :D)...also i really dont see why christians are so quick to judge the big bang theory, when they believe that the whole complexity of the universe was just randomly created by a god.

Dr_Manfattan

My biggest problem with the Big Bang is the theorized faster-than-light expansion.

br0kenrabbit

almost nothing we know of applies to the universe before the big bang because it probably defied all laws of science

MrMe1000

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="kneeha"]

Also the universe cant be losing energy because that would violate the first law of thermo dynamics.

kneeha

So you're now arguing that there is no entropy? Then what was the point of this topic again?ProudLarry

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

kneeha

I think you have it the wrong way.

The Big Bang Theory states that the universe expanded out of a superhot singularity. The expansion and spread of heat means that entropy is increasing, not decreasing, as it is now spreading over a greater area.

This is the same reason a hot object left at room temp will cool. Heat spreads out in order to increase the entropy of the entire system, not just the single object.

My biggest problem with the Big Bang is the theorized faster-than-light expansion.

br0kenrabbit

Space can expand faster than light.

The light speed limit only refers to objects moving THROUGH space. Space itself can most definitely expand faster than the speed of light.

[QUOTE="kneeha"]

the 2nd law of thermo dynamics is and equations that represents the increase of entropy to the increase of heat. The more heat the more entropy. Entropy is likewasted atoms or elements, in other words the hotter things get the more random atoms get, it isbasically the exact opposite of what the big bang theory states.that a infinitely hot explosion or expansion created an ordered universe.

metroidfood

I think you have it the wrong way.

The Big Bang Theory states that the universe expanded out of a superhot singularity. The expansion and spread of heat means that entropy is increasing, not decreasing, as it is now spreading over a greater area.

This is the same reason a hot object left at room temp will cool. Heat spreads out in order to increase the entropy of the entire system, not just the single object.

[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="kneeha"]

Also the universe cant be losing energy because that would violate the first law of thermo dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY

Proof Big Bang exists.

masterflame10

Proof that Big Bang exist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ

[QUOTE="Dr_Manfattan"]

im pretty sure the whole point is that there were loads of random atoms that spread out and created the universe(if not, this is now known as the Manfattan theory :D)...also i really dont see why christians are so quick to judge the big bang theory, when they believe that the whole complexity of the universe was just randomly created by a god.

kneeha

no, Manfattan...and yes, its my name so whats your problem with me making stuff up and calling it a theory after my own name?

Going back to the first post, and your concern about being Christian an believing the Big Bang. This may very well be the first "physical" cause, but what caused that. "Why" was there a Big Bang? If you look at the principle of first cause there must be an outside being/force that started the chain.