Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.
Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.daniel52587
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you?
[QUOTE="daniel52587"]Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.Erasorn
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you? No, I believe in infinite. We never begin or end. We only change.
What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?quiglythegreat
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?daniel52587
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. The definintion of universe is everything that exists.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?daniel52587
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. Considering what happens to your body as it's about to enter a black hole, I don't think there's anything worthwhile on the other side of a black hole.
Right. But understand it is a temporal dimension, not a spatial one. Unless it is. It seems quite dodgy to me, really, between classifying it as temporal or spatial, because from what I understand of the space time continuum, absolutely everything in the universe is moving at the speed of light through space time, thus the appearance of time. But I don't know, I've never really ever heard much at all about the space time continuum, and now with this new idea of time not really existing at all, just the illusion of the progression of time as entropy increasing, well, yeah, I h ave no clue. I'm trying to learn a bit about this nonsense, so if someone could clear up specifically the space time continuum for me, I'd appreciate that.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?jim_shorts
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. The definintion of universe is everything that exists. No it isn't... We just thought/think that everything that exists is inside a universe. However, with a lot of scientists now looking into Multiverses, trying to say that there are multiple/parallel universes, this could be different.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?Conanfan1
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. Considering what happens to your body as it's about to enter a black hole, I don't think there's anything worthwhile on the other side of a black hole.Well Einstein discovered the solution to his field equations with the idea of a wormhole. Also, they now think that for supermassive black holes, you dont "spaghettify." The tidal forces would be too weak.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?daniel52587
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. ...no, a white hole by your definition is still a black hole, and the terrific gravity of a black hole destroys everything in it. Also, it would probably not be white, more of a beige, if it absorbed all colors, apparently. And there can't really be multiple universes, 'universe' being everything that exists.
[QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.daniel52587
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you? No, I believe in infinite. We never begin or end. We only change. What kind of change? Like that idea where the universe after a certain point will retract, squish into a single point and then big banging again(but that would go against your first statement.. XD) or that the universe(s) is/are forever expanding? I would like to hear what kind of change you are talking about, because I'm clueless. :)
[QUOTE="Conanfan1"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?daniel52587
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. Considering what happens to your body as it's about to enter a black hole, I don't think there's anything worthwhile on the other side of a black hole.Well Einstein discovered the solution to his field equations with the idea of a wormhole. Also, they now think that for supermassive black holes, you dont "spaghettify." The tidal forces would be too weak. Wormholes do not mean that other universes exist. They mean that there can be a way of exploiting space-time. And why would supermassive black holes not destroy what's inside of them?
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?quiglythegreat
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. ...no, a white hole by your definition is still a black hole, and the terrific gravity of a black hole destroys everything in it. Also, it would probably not be white, more of a beige, if it absorbed all colors, apparently. And there can't really be multiple universes, 'universe' being everything that exists.a white hole is supposed to create matter
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.Erasorn
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you? No, I believe in infinite. We never begin or end. We only change. What kind of change? Like that idea where the universe after a certain point will retract, squish into a single point and then big banging again(but that would go against your first statement.. XD) or that the universe(s) is/are forever expanding? I would like to hear what kind of change you are talking about, because I'm clueless. :)By change I mean we never began or will end. It is that simple. This universe will keep expanding/changing. As will others.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?joetira
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. ...no, a white hole by your definition is still a black hole, and the terrific gravity of a black hole destroys everything in it. Also, it would probably not be white, more of a beige, if it absorbed all colors, apparently. And there can't really be multiple universes, 'universe' being everything that exists.a white hole is supposed to create matter I wasn't aware that thermodynamics could be so easily overlooked....Black holes absorb mass with their sheer mass. I've never heard of white holes before, but from what the other guy said, they're the same thing, so...
[QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.daniel52587
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you? No, I believe in infinite. We never begin or end. We only change. What kind of change? Like that idea where the universe after a certain point will retract, squish into a single point and then big banging again(but that would go against your first statement.. XD) or that the universe(s) is/are forever expanding? I would like to hear what kind of change you are talking about, because I'm clueless. :)By change I mean we never began or will end. It is that simple. This universe will keep expanding/changing. As will others. So this universe have already expanded for an eternity. Shouldn't matter have turned into useless forms of energy by now? or every sun/star be destroyed? Where does energy and matter come from after this eternity of time?
By change I mean we never began or will end. It is that simple. This universe will keep expanding/changing. As will others. daniel52587
You keep bring up plural universes. I still don't understand this. And the universe seems to have at some point done something other than expand, considering there was once a big bang. Such density of mass implies that it was once not quite so dense. Granted, that may mean nothing, since all laws of physics were presumably different before the big bang, but still, it seems improbable at best that the universe has always been expanding and always will.
[QUOTE="joetira"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?quiglythegreat
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. ...no, a white hole by your definition is still a black hole, and the terrific gravity of a black hole destroys everything in it. Also, it would probably not be white, more of a beige, if it absorbed all colors, apparently. And there can't really be multiple universes, 'universe' being everything that exists.a white hole is supposed to create matter I wasn't aware that thermodynamics could be so easily overlooked....Black holes absorb mass with their sheer mass. I've never heard of white holes before, but from what the other guy said, they're the same thing, so... That is the only thing that disproves wormholes. It violates thermodynamics. Maybe thermodynamics doesnt apply to black holes. Who knows.
[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.Erasorn
That doesn't explain from where everything started nor why the universe seem to move away from a certain point. You just believe that everything just came to be.. like a object suddenly just "poff"ing into existance right in front of you? No, I believe in infinite. We never begin or end. We only change. What kind of change? Like that idea where the universe after a certain point will retract, squish into a single point and then big banging again(but that would go against your first statement.. XD) or that the universe(s) is/are forever expanding? I would like to hear what kind of change you are talking about, because I'm clueless. :)By change I mean we never began or will end. It is that simple. This universe will keep expanding/changing. As will others. So this universe have already expanded for an eternity. Shouldn't matter have turned into useless forms of energy by now? or every sun/star be destroyed? Where does energy and matter come from after this eternity of time?I dont see how it can possible end.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="joetira"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?daniel52587
A white hole is what is on the other side of a black hole. A black hole is an entry way through a wormhole ending with a white hole to another universe. ...no, a white hole by your definition is still a black hole, and the terrific gravity of a black hole destroys everything in it. Also, it would probably not be white, more of a beige, if it absorbed all colors, apparently. And there can't really be multiple universes, 'universe' being everything that exists.a white hole is supposed to create matter I wasn't aware that thermodynamics could be so easily overlooked....Black holes absorb mass with their sheer mass. I've never heard of white holes before, but from what the other guy said, they're the same thing, so... That is the only thing that disproves wormholes. It violates thermodynamics. Maybe thermodynamics doesnt apply to black holes. Who knows. The laws of physics we know only apply to the matter we know. In other words, they're different at the subatomic level. I think this means it can possibly be different in other cases, though the wormhole and white hole are just solutions to Einstein's Field of Equations.
[QUOTE="bastards12345"] The laws of physics we know only apply to the matter we know. In other words, they're different at the subatomic level. I think this means it can possibly be different in other cases, though the wormhole and white hole are just solutions to Einstein's Field of Equations. Wormholes do not violate thermodynamics necessarily, and thermodynamics is really the key principle of quantum physics.
[QUOTE="-Iconoclast-"]4th dimension is time.quiglythegreat
Right. But understand it is a temporal dimension, not a spatial one. Unless it is. It seems quite dodgy to me, really, between classifying it as temporal or spatial, because from what I understand of the space time continuum, absolutely everything in the universe is moving at the speed of light through space time, thus the appearance of time. But I don't know, I've never really ever heard much at all about the space time continuum, and now with this new idea of time not really existing at all, just the illusion of the progression of time as entropy increasing, well, yeah, I h ave no clue. I'm trying to learn a bit about this nonsense, so if someone could clear up specifically the space time continuum for me, I'd appreciate that.depends if you do or do not belive in a absolute reference which no one knows if it exists or not.
What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?quiglythegreat
Theoretically, a White hole is the opposite of a black hole, it spits matter out. according to the theory, it is connected to a blackhole in another part of space, and it spits some of the matter a black hole pulls in. This theory of course relies on the theory that the black hole itself is a ring, and not a single point. This spinning ring creates a sort of wormhole because of the gravitation forces. It's very unstable and collapses/forms over and over though. But according to that theory, anything that makes it through the black hole instead of becoming part of the black hole, gets spat out the other end. The reason the white hole would be white is because its spitting out all of the light that the black hole pulls in, making it extremely bright. The reason we havent seen one is because of it's nature of spitting out light would make it fairly indistinguishable from other astronomical objects.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]What is a white hole? And how could there be multiple 'everything-that-exists's?Tolwan
Theoretically, a White hole is the opposite of a black hole, it spits matter out. according to the theory, it is connected to a blackhole in another part of space, and it spits some of the matter a black hole pulls in. This theory of course relies on the theory that the black hole itself is a ring, and not a single point. This spinning ring creates a sort of wormhole because of the gravitation forces. It's very unstable and collapses/forms over and over though. But according to that theory, anything that makes it through the black hole instead of becoming part of the black hole, gets spat out the other end. The reason the white hole would be white is because its spitting out all of the light that the black hole pulls in, making it extremely bright. The reason we havent seen one is because of it's nature of spitting out light would make it fairly indistinguishable from other astronomical objects.
And the fact that all observed astronomical bodies that emit energy can be accounted for by much less exotic explanations. Some had proposed that quasars might be white holes, but that premise has been pretty well dismissed. The underlying theory supporting white holes is internally consistent, but has no observational evidence to support it. While it can be argued that the same is true for string theory, it's a little different in that there should be observable white holes somewhere in the universe. We can't see the entire universe, of course, but it does not inspire confidence in the theory that none have been observed yet.
Do you believe in the Big Bang or something else started the universe. I believe for one, that we are existing inside of a white hole. I believe that there are multiple universes that exist in a 4th dimension and we are just one out of an infinite number of universes.daniel52587
unfortuntely, what your asking is impossible. You see there is the big bang theory, the story created by science, or there is the creation, which comes in many forms and in many religions. I myself believe the creation as written in the bible.
quantum theory is diffrent from string theory in that there is direct ways and indirect ways of knowing that the waves/particles are there and and observing what they do; ie a nuetrino when it hits a nuetron in a atom it turns into a proton and changes lets say something like nitrogen into some werid isotope of oxygen that is short lived , but string theory though it may be beautifull in its own way there is no way of proving it.
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