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#1 Hexagon_777
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Microsoft's Bing search engine, and even Yahoo, are providing users with more-accurate searches than their rival Google, according to a report out this week.

Bing and Yahoo, which is now using Microsoft's Bing search technology, had the highest search success rates last month, reported Experian Hitwise, an Internet monitoring firm. More than 81% of the searches on Bing and Yahoo sites led users to visit a Web site.

Google wasn't as successful with its January searches. According to Experian Hitwise, the dominant player in the search market had a 65% success rate.Computerworld

The above is only an excerpt. You can find the full article here.

I find this to be ironic after having recently posted this thread. What say you, OT?

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I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.

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#3 ChubbyGuy40
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I still think Google has more accuracy and better results.

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#4 Hexagon_777
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I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.Foolio1
People use Google as a spell checker? What?

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I'm not quite sure I understand. Why does the mere fact that a person visited a website based on the results of a search imply that the results were more accurate? Countless numbers of times I've visited a website that showed up in a search result just to check to see if it's what I'm looking for, and then immediately leave after finding out that it's not.

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#7 xsynth
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bing steals their results from google anyway
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#8 StealthMonkey4
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I can never find anything on Bing, I hate it.

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#9 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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Meh, still prefer Google over those two though.

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[QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.Hexagon_777

People use Google as a spell checker? What?

Guilty :P
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[QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.Hexagon_777

People use Google as a spell checker? What?

Yeah, I know people who do it. I've been guilty of it before. I also wonder if stuff like Google Shopper are counted as well. A lot of times I will look something up just to see a range of prices, but not actually visit a site that it lists.

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[QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.Hexagon_777

People use Google as a spell checker? What?

I do. If I know what word I want to use, but the exact spelling isn't correct, I will get a little red squiggly line underneath. So since I know the word is wrong, I go to google, type it in, and see what their correction is.
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#13 Oleg_Huzwog
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I contribute to Google's low score by performing image searches with obscene phrases. I do this a lot. And when I do, I usually just browse the image results for chuckles without ever bothering to click on any of them. Who knows how many hundreds (thousands?) of "unsuccessful" searches I've made this way?

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.BMD004
People use Google as a spell checker? What?

I do. If I know what word I want to use, but the exact spelling isn't correct, I will get a little red squiggly line underneath. So since I know the word is wrong, I go to google, type it in, and see what their correction is.

Since you obviously use a spell checker, why not just click to see the correct spelling right then and there?

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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]People use Google as a spell checker? What?Hexagon_777

I do. If I know what word I want to use, but the exact spelling isn't correct, I will get a little red squiggly line underneath. So since I know the word is wrong, I go to google, type it in, and see what their correction is.

Since you obviously use a spell checker, why not just click to see the correct spelling right then and there?

I'm not sure I know how on my internet browser...
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I'm not quite sure I understand. Why does the mere fact that a person visited a website based on the results of a search imply that the results were more accurate? Countless numbers of times I've visited a website that showed up in a search result just to check to see if it's what I'm looking for, and then immediately leave after finding out that it's not.GabuEx
Since there are short excerpts from the website that allow the user to see what the website is about, I suppose that it is assumed that if you read those and actually click on the link, that that counts as the search engine having done its job successfully.

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#18 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="BMD004"] I do. If I know what word I want to use, but the exact spelling isn't correct, I will get a little red squiggly line underneath. So since I know the word is wrong, I go to google, type it in, and see what their correction is.BMD004
Since you obviously use a spell checker, why not just click to see the correct spelling right then and there?

I'm not sure I know how on my internet browser...

Right clicking should be fine! :)

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#19 BMD004
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Could it be that google censors the quick search and autofill results that have to do with torrents?

Just a thought.

Since many people search for such things directly from a search engine, google's consor could lower its success rates.

Teenaged
They censor things that have to do with torrents?
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I'm not quite sure I understand. Why does the mere fact that a person visited a website based on the results of a search imply that the results were more accurate? Countless numbers of times I've visited a website that showed up in a search result just to check to see if it's what I'm looking for, and then immediately leave after finding out that it's not.

GabuEx
This. And I've tried Bing out, and I've used Yahoo. Google always gives me much better results.
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#21 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Since you obviously use a spell checker, why not just click to see the correct spelling right then and there?Hexagon_777

I'm not sure I know how on my internet browser...

Right clicking should be fine! :)

Wow, thanks. All this time...
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bing steals their results from google anywayxsynth
This.
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#23 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="xsynth"]bing steals their results from google anywayVerge_6
This.

If Bing steals results from Google, then how is Bing more accurate? :P

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="xsynth"]bing steals their results from google anywayHexagon_777

This.

If Bing steals results from Google, then how is Bing more accurate? :P

With Microsoft$$$

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="BMD004"] I'm not sure I know how on my internet browser...BMD004
Right clicking should be fine! :)

Wow, thanks. All this time...

Are you messing with me or being truthful? :shock:

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I use Bing, because Microsoft pays me Amazon gift cards for doing so. Oh, and I find what I'm looking for.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Could it be that google censors the quick search and autofill results that have to do with torrents?

Just a thought.

Since many people search for such things directly from a search engine, google's consor could lower its success rates.BMD004

They censor things that have to do with torrents?

Not quite, it seems.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Could it be that google censors the quick search and autofill results that have to do with torrents?

Just a thought.

Since many people search for such things directly from a search engine, google's consor could lower its success rates.

BMD004

They censor things that have to do with torrents?

Like I said, only in the quick search (the feature that searches while you type in real time) and the autofill.

And I think they outright censor some specific torrent sites, including the sites of some torrent software.

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]I'm not quite sure I understand. Why does the mere fact that a person visited a website based on the results of a search imply that the results were more accurate? Countless numbers of times I've visited a website that showed up in a search result just to check to see if it's what I'm looking for, and then immediately leave after finding out that it's not.Hexagon_777

Since there are short excerpts from the website that allow the user to see what the website is about, I suppose that it is assumed that if you read those and actually click on the link, that that counts as the search engine having done its job successfully.

I rarely care what the website itself is about; what I want to know is if what I'm specifically looking for is on the website, and the short excerpt frankly only sometimes tells me that.

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#30 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Right clicking should be fine! :)Hexagon_777

Wow, thanks. All this time...

Are you messing with me or being truthful? :shock:

No I'm actually serious. All this time I had no idea that all I had to do was right click. I always used google lol.

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]I'm not quite sure I understand. Why does the mere fact that a person visited a website based on the results of a search imply that the results were more accurate? Countless numbers of times I've visited a website that showed up in a search result just to check to see if it's what I'm looking for, and then immediately leave after finding out that it's not.GabuEx
Since there are short excerpts from the website that allow the user to see what the website is about, I suppose that it is assumed that if you read those and actually click on the link, that that counts as the search engine having done its job successfully.

I rarely care what the website itself is about; what I want to know is if what I'm specifically looking for is on the website, and the short excerpt frankly only sometimes tells me that.

Then I don't know myself, for both offer short excerpts and it's unlikely that Bing consists of more people that do what you do as opposed to Google.

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Since there are short excerpts from the website that allow the user to see what the website is about, I suppose that it is assumed that if you read those and actually click on the link, that that counts as the search engine having done its job successfully.Hexagon_777

I rarely care what the website itself is about; what I want to know is if what I'm specifically looking for is on the website, and the short excerpt frankly only sometimes tells me that.

Then I don't know myself, for both offer short excerpts and it's unlikely that Bing consists of more people that do what you do as opposed to Google.

All I'm saying is that I wish to express healthy skepticism towards the idea that a person going to a website after having entered a search term implies that the search engine produced an accurate result, and vice versa.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Could it be that google censors the quick search and autofill results that have to do with torrents?Just a thought. Since many people search for such things directly from a search engine, google's consor could lower its success rates.Teenaged
They censor things that have to do with torrents?

Like I said, only in the quick search (the feature that searches while you type in real time) and the autofill. And I think they outright censor some specific torrent sites, including the sites of some torrent software.

Do you have a link concerning the latter sentence? I would be curious on the matter myself.

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.XxspritexX

People use Google as a spell checker? What?

Guilty :P

Same. All the time, actually :P
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]I rarely care what the website itself is about; what I want to know is if what I'm specifically looking for is on the website, and the short excerpt frankly only sometimes tells me that.GabuEx

Then I don't know myself, for both offer short excerpts and it's unlikely that Bing consists of more people that do what you do as opposed to Google.

All I'm saying is that I wish to express healthy skepticism towards the idea that a person going to a website after having entered a search term implies that the search engine produced an accurate result, and vice versa.


If that is the case, then this article isn't accurate at all. Many times I have seen people put in whole sentences and questions into google because they hold it to a higher expectation and thus can yield a better result, only to find nothing on the topic. Many times I have used Bing because its default on some of my friend's computers and I have yielded results that were far more inaccurate compared to what google would provide.

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Then I don't know myself, for both offer short excerpts and it's unlikely that Bing consists of more people that do what you do as opposed to Google.

carrot-cake

All I'm saying is that I wish to express healthy skepticism towards the idea that a person going to a website after having entered a search term implies that the search engine produced an accurate result, and vice versa.


If that is the case, then this article isn't accurate at all. Many times I have seen people put in whole sentences and questions into google because they hold it to a higher expectation and thus can yield a better result, only to find nothing on the topic. Many times I have used Bing because its default on some of my friend's computers and I have yielded results that were far more inaccurate compared to what google would provide.

There was a funny study I read a while back (for which I unfortunately cannot find a link), which underscores Bing's real problem. Basically, in the study, they sat people down at computers and asked them to search on both Bing and Google for something, and then evaluate which returned better results. The people universally reported that Google produced better results. There was a catch, though: half of the people's computers swapped the results: the results retrieved from Google were placed within Bing's layout, and vice versa.

In other words, people rated Google above Bing completely regardless of the actual search results. They basically felt that Google was more accurate simply because it was Google. How Bing can compete with that kind of latent psychological training is a difficult question.

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[QUOTE="Foolio1"]I wonder if stuff like people using Google as a spell checker would have an effect since you don't necessarily have to click on a URL.Hexagon_777

People use Google as a spell checker? What?

oh I do that a lot
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Hate yahoo. Bing is something I've not tried.

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I used Bing yesterday to try and get to the Battlefield Free2play site. BF Free BF free 2 play BF free2play Battlefield Free None of them worked. Google finds the right site with BF free. Case. Closed.
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I'm not surprised, Bing is great.
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]All I'm saying is that I wish to express healthy skepticism towards the idea that a person going to a website after having entered a search term implies that the search engine produced an accurate result, and vice versa.GabuEx

If that is the case, then this article isn't accurate at all. Many times I have seen people put in whole sentences and questions into google because they hold it to a higher expectation and thus can yield a better result, only to find nothing on the topic. Many times I have used Bing because its default on some of my friend's computers and I have yielded results that were far more inaccurate compared to what google would provide.

There was a funny study I read a while back (for which I unfortunately cannot find a link), which underscores Bing's real problem. Basically, in the study, they sat people down at computers and asked them to search on both Bing and Google for something, and then evaluate which returned better results. The people universally reported that Google produced better results. There was a catch, though: half of the people's computers swapped the results: the results retrieved from Google were placed within Bing's layout, and vice versa.

In other words, people rated Google above Bing completely regardless of the actual search results. They basically felt that Google was more accurate simply because it was Google. How Bing can compete with that kind of latent psychological training is a difficult question.

That sounds golden! Please find a link! You should have created a thread about it on here too, GabuEx! :(

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That sounds golden! Please find a link! You should have created a thread about it on here too, GabuEx! :(

Hexagon_777

I'm trying to find a link, but am coming up empty thus far. Not really sure what to search for that would uniquely identify it.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="BMD004"] They censor things that have to do with torrents?Hexagon_777

Like I said, only in the quick search (the feature that searches while you type in real time) and the autofill. And I think they outright censor some specific torrent sites, including the sites of some torrent software.

Do you have a link concerning the latter sentence? I would be curious on the matter myself.

From your own link which you posted earlier:

"Although uTorrent and Xunlei are excluded from results [...]"

Doesnt that mean you wont even get their sites in the search results?

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Like I said, only in the quick search (the feature that searches while you type in real time) and the autofill. And I think they outright censor some specific torrent sites, including the sites of some torrent software.Teenaged
Do you have a link concerning the latter sentence? I would be curious on the matter myself.

From your own link which you posted earlier:

"Although uTorrent and Xunlei are excluded from results [...]"

Doesnt that mean you wont even get their sites in the search results?

Not to me. After reading the link again, the issue just seems to be that Google introduced this blacklist for their Autocomplete and Instant search services but it doesn't seem to affect all websites falling under the category that Google seems to be censoring here. That is what I am getting from it anyway.

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one of my first search engines were askjeeves.com or aka ask.com which was about 10years ago. Then I switched to google because i had success finding starcraft 1 map hacks and have been using google since then
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#46 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Do you have a link concerning the latter sentence? I would be curious on the matter myself.Hexagon_777

From your own link which you posted earlier:

"Although uTorrent and Xunlei are excluded from results [...]"

Doesnt that mean you wont even get their sites in the search results?

Not to me. After reading the link again, the issue just seems to be that Google introduced this blacklist for their Autocomplete and Instant search services but it doesn't seem to affect all websites falling under the category that Google seems to be censoring here. That is what I am getting from it anyway.

Ah so its just for those two features then, in stead of a complete censor.

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I disagree.
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]That sounds golden! Please find a link! You should have created a thread about it on here too, GabuEx! :(GabuEx
I'm trying to find a link, but am coming up empty thus far. Not really sure what to search for that would uniquely identify it.

This link sounds like what you were describing.

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theres no way that can be right

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#50 Overlord93
Member since 2007 • 12602 Posts
google has gone mad with power :o they have lost track of whats really important.