Edit: ""I don't want to blind him for revenge," Bahrami said in her parents' Tehran apartment. "I'm doing this to prevent it from happening to someone else.""
I'm not aware on the Laws of Iran (I know its got a very bad reputation for Human Rights), but the reason she wants this done does not make any sense... :?: How will her attacker repeat the same thing he did to her on someone else? And if he does, it has nothing to do with her. Either way, blinding her attacker does nobody good: She will not be able to see again, and taking that sense away from someone else based on the "eye for an eye" philosophy sounds more like revenge to me.
Why the hell didn't she do something about it before he threw acid in her eyes? I'm sure Iran has something similar to a restraining order
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They do, but they aren't as immediate as throwing acid in someone's face.He was harrassisng her for 2 years. maybe she was complacent, people do that all over the world so far as i know. I'm certain Iran has restraining orders or a similar system.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]Disgusting. There's no doubt in my mind that some "proud Americans" here would find the punishment fitting.JabbaDaHutt30
Have you seen what condition he left the woman in? Yes. What do you think is fitting retribution? Edit: Or consequence, if you're afraid of just desserts.
[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]Disgusting. There's no doubt in my mind that some "proud Americans" here would find the punishment fitting.Jandurin
Have you seen what condition he left the woman in? Nonetheless, that's why I'm glad there are clauses against cruel and unusual punishment, and why we don't have the victims of crimes specify what should be done to the perpetrators of crimes against them
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]Disgusting. There's no doubt in my mind that some "proud Americans" here would find the punishment fitting.xaos
Have you seen what condition he left the woman in? Nonetheless, that's why I'm glad there are clauses against cruel and unusual punishment, and why we don't have the victims of crimes specify what should be done to the perpetrators of crimes against them While I agree that acid...ing his face as a form of court mandated punishment is... incorrect (partially because that means someone has to actually purposefully apply the acid to his face, partially because the law shouldn't... do such heinous things, and partially because it's pointless), I can't figure out what exactly should be done. Should he go to jail? Mental hospital? Have his head removed rather than deformed?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Have you seen what condition he left the woman in? Yes. What do you think is fitting retribution? It is not a matter of retribution.
this is olllllld. They already ordered like month or two ago that 2 drops of the same solution be dropped in each of the attackers eyes.SouL-Tak3R
Wait, it's already happened? Like, they ordered that it will be done, or they ordered that it should be done, and set a date, and that date has not yet come?
What would you want? "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" We shouldn't bring ourselves to the level of the criminal. That answers what not to do, not what to do.
What would you want? "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" We shouldn't bring ourselves to the level of the criminal. Well, it's too late for that..
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] What would you want? "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" We shouldn't bring ourselves to the level of the criminal. That answers what not to do, not what to do. I know but I was just explaining why we should not do the same to the criminal as they did to the victim.
[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]It is not a matter of retribution.Jandurin
Then how about consequence :roll: I do not want to decide what the ideal form of bunishment would be, since I don't want to imply that anything else would be an "unfit punishment." Why I am against this is because first of all, it is a form of torture. I am against torture. Second, the woman said that she wants to prevent such future incidents, and that she does not demand this course of action for the need of revenge. I believe she wants the wrong thing, for the right reason. There are other, less lustful ways of preventing such future happenings.
Another reason why I am against this would be that the court took on the victim's demand.
[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]In Iran? Hell yes. maybe in 500 years they'll discover mercy. he basically ruined her life why would he get mercy? Because we are civilised beings which provide people with basic human rights. Well, that is subjective but us being civilised is the general consensus.
[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]In Iran? Hell yes. maybe in 500 years they'll discover mercy.DrSponge
he basically ruined her life why would he get mercy? Because we are civilised beings which provide people with basic human rights. Well, that is subjective but us being civilised is the general consensus.
Well the guys throwing acid from water bottles weren't very civilized. They deserve whatever punishment they get.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]It is not a matter of retribution.JabbaDaHutt30
Then how about consequence :roll: I do not want to decide what the ideal form of bunishment would be, since I don't want to imply that anything else would be an "unfit punishment." Why I am against this is because first of all, it is a form of torture. I am against torture. Second, the woman said that she wants to prevent such future incidents, and that she does not demand this course of action for the need of revenge. I believe she wants the wrong thing, for the right reason. There are other, less lustful ways of preventing such future happenings. Only preventative? Answer me this: If you could look into this fellow's future. Like seriously see his whole life, and saw that without any punishment or consequence whatsoever, he lived a normal life from then on... would you say that then he deserved no punishment as whatever he had done in the past, his future was unblemished?
"Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said." Say what?! What the hell is wrong with people?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Then how about consequence :roll: I do not want to decide what the ideal form of bunishment would be, since I don't want to imply that anything else would be an "unfit punishment." Why I am against this is because first of all, it is a form of torture. I am against torture. Second, the woman said that she wants to prevent such future incidents, and that she does not demand this course of action for the need of revenge. I believe she wants the wrong thing, for the right reason. There are other, less lustful ways of preventing such future happenings. Only preventative? Answer me this: If you could look into this fellow's future. Like seriously see his whole life, and saw that without any punishment or consequence whatsoever, he lived a normal life from then on... would you say that then he deserved no punishment as whatever he had done in the past, his future was unblemished? Unfortunately, people do not function that way. You don't just *change* all of a sudden.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Only preventative? Answer me this: If you could look into this fellow's future. Like seriously see his whole life, and saw that without any punishment or consequence whatsoever, he lived a normal life from then on... would you say that then he deserved no punishment as whatever he had done in the past, his future was unblemished?JabbaDaHutt30
Unfortunately, people do not function that way. You don't just *change* all of a sudden.
You didn't answer his question. I too, am interested in your answer.
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