Just when I thought Rolling Sone couldn't get any shittier.
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You would think news organizations would have realized by now that posting the pictures of alleged and convicted murderors is what they want. Don't give them fame and it makes them less likely to commit their crime.ad1x2
tru.dat
i forget the name of the asshole who shot up V-tech, which is the way it should be.
THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterRolling Stone cover
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
[quote="Rolling Stone cover"]THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterOleg_Huzwog
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
No, but say you are a troubled kid in a similar situation looking for attention... Something like this illustrates that doing terrible things will give him or her all the attention in the world...
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]
[quote="Rolling Stone cover"]THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterSqueets
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
No, but say you are a troubled kid in a similar situation looking for attention... Something like this illustrates that doing terrible things will give him or her all the attention in the world...
Believing that anyone would do what he did because they're "looking for attention" is absurdly simplistic.
[QUOTE="ad1x2"]You would think news organizations would have realized by now that posting the pictures of alleged and convicted murderors is what they want. Don't give them fame and it makes them less likely to commit their crime.Jimn_tonic
tru.dat
i forget the name of the asshole who shot up V-tech, which is the way it should be.
I remember his face, but not his name.[quote="Rolling Stone cover"]THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterOleg_Huzwog
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
This shows children if they do something horrendous they'll be punished with fame.Â
Believing that anyone would do what he did because they're "looking for attention" is absurdly simplistic.
Oleg_Huzwog
but it's true, in many cases.
especially with younger folks
You would think news organizations would have realized by now that posting the pictures of alleged and convicted murderors is what they want. Don't give them fame and it makes them less likely to commit their crime.ad1x2Well putting up controversial news which generates views is what the news organization wants. News organizations don't care what kind of message they're sending, as long as that message gets them $$$.
I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
I get where you're coming from but the Times "Man of the Year" cover is designated for people who have significantly impacted the world. Just to clarify.I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
Oleg_Huzwog
I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
Oleg_Huzwog
Bin Laden was one of the worlds most elusive terrorists
boston-bomber asshole was some random jihadist.
does every jihadist make the cover of best selling magazines?
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]I get where you're coming from but the Times "Man of the Year" cover is designated for people who have significantly impacted the world. Just to clarify.I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
lowkey254
I'm not talking about the Man of the Year, but I suppose you could include that in this context. I'm talking about just regular covers like this one: Link. That one came out a few weeks after 9/11.
[quote="Rolling Stone cover"]THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterOleg_Huzwog
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
The shot they used is pretty glamorized, but I do agree with your overall point. And I'd say that they used that shot because they care about the aesthetics of their magazine covers, not because they wanted to glamorize terrorism.
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]
I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
Jimn_tonic
Bin Laden was one of the worlds most elusive terrorists
boston-bomber asshole was some random jihadist.
does every jihadist make the cover of best selling magazines?
A good number of high-profile mass murderers make covers.
How many covers has Charles Manson appeared on over the years?
Better yet, take this Time cover of the Columbine shooters as an example: Link. This one is remarkably similar to the Rolling Stone cover - nice photographs of the ones who did it, along with a question of what turned these guys into monsters.
[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]
I trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
I get where you're coming from but the Times "Man of the Year" cover is designated for people who have significantly impacted the world. Just to clarify.I'm not talking about the Man of the Year, but I suppose you could include that in this context. I'm talking about just regular covers like this one: Link. That one came out a few weeks after 9/11.
I get where you're coming from. I also understand the rage.I get where you're coming from. I also understand the rage. lowkey254
Maybe the rage is less to do with this specific cover, and more to do with the age of social media? It's significantly easier now (versus ten years ago) for a few people to say "this is an outrage", communicate those feelings to others, some of whom then say to themselves "hey yeah, now that you mention it, it IS an outrage", so on and so forth... until eventually enough people are tweeting their rage that the rage itself becomes a story worth reporting. Of the people who have been expressing their rage, how many would've even been aware of the cover's existence if this had taken place ten years ago?
[QUOTE="lowkey254"]I get where you're coming from. I also understand the rage. Oleg_Huzwog
Maybe the rage is less to do with this specific cover, and more to do with the age of social media? It's significantly easier now (versus ten years ago) for a few people to say "this is an outrage", communicate those feelings to others, some of whom then say to themselves "hey yeah, now that you mention it, it IS an outrage", so on and so forth... until eventually enough people are tweeting their rage that the rage itself becomes a story worth reporting. Of the people who have been expressing their rage, how many would've even been aware of the cover's existence if this had taken place ten years ago?
This is very true and can apply to just about everything in the digital age from politics, court cases, and magazine covers.The folks at RS know what they are doing. There is no such thing as bad publicity and this will only garner them a ton of clicks and interest in their rag. I think CVS won't carry the issue, but that won't outweigh the mileage they'll get out of this controversy. Pretty despicable glorifing someone responsible for this:
News magazine vs entertainment magazine Look at past Rolling Stone covers and almost all of them are glamorized celebrities. The only ones I see who aren't entertainers of some sort were nominees for President of the United States. It seems weird for Rolling Stone to randomly decide to give the cover to one of the Boston bombersI trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
Oleg_Huzwog
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]News magazine vs entertainment magazine Look at past Rolling Stone covers and almost all of them are glamorized celebrities. The only ones I see who aren't entertainers of some sort were nominees for President of the United States. It seems weird for Rolling Stone to randomly decide to give the cover to one of the Boston bombersI trust there was an equal level of rage over the 3 or 4 times Time magazine featured Bin Laden on its cover? No? Why not? Was it because that man was a butt-ugly mofo, so nobody could possibly accuse Time of glamorizing him?
JML897
A valid point. Worth noting though, that it's not completely unprecedented. They did do that cover story of Charles Manson.
Willie Nelson. Some shit about global warming. That atrocious Jay Z Album. The "hey hey hey" singer. A bombing suspect. I love it.MrPraline
The Jay Z album is bad?
I haven't listened to it yet, so the only opinion I've formed is that I think the title is whack.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Willie Nelson. Some shit about global warming. That atrocious Jay Z Album. The "hey hey hey" singer. A bombing suspect. I love it.GreySeal9
The Jay Z album is bad?
I haven't listened to it yet, so the only opinion I've formed is that I think the title is whack.
Yeah it's awful. "Nickels and Dimes" and "Oceans" are passable/good (Oceans because of Frank's hook). Not a fan of the rest tbh. Though his last album I enjoyed was The Black Album.[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Willie Nelson. Some shit about global warming. That atrocious Jay Z Album. The "hey hey hey" singer. A bombing suspect. I love it.GreySeal9
The Jay Z album is bad?
I haven't listened to it yet, so the only opinion I've formed is that I think the title is whack.
The Jay-Z album is completely unremarkable[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]Willie Nelson. Some shit about global warming. That atrocious Jay Z Album. The "hey hey hey" singer. A bombing suspect. I love it.MrPraline
The Jay Z album is bad?
I haven't listened to it yet, so the only opinion I've formed is that I think the title is whack.
Yeah it's awful. "Nickels and Dimes" and "Oceans" are passable/good (Oceans because of Frank's hook). Not a fan of the rest tbh. Though his last album I enjoyed was The Black Album.The Black Album is dope. I think that's the last one I thought that great as well. Watch the Throne was okay.
Jay Z is well past his prime and I'm not really excited to listen to this latest album, tho I'll probably end up listening to it when I'm bored.
GreySeal9Yeah, same feelings here. Didn't even go out of my way to pirate this. I got a message from Spotify that it was available and listened to it on a lazy Saturday morning. [QUOTE="JML897"] The Jay-Z album is completely unremarkable Yeah. Quite sad really. Blueprint is one of my favourite albums.
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]Willie Nelson. Some shit about global warming. That atrocious Jay Z Album. The "hey hey hey" singer. A bombing suspect. I love it.JML897
The Jay Z album is bad?
I haven't listened to it yet, so the only opinion I've formed is that I think the title is whack.
The Jay-Z album is completely unremarkableI'm not surprised at all. I heard a little clip of one of the songs on NPR and it sounded pretty throwaway.
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][quote="Rolling Stone cover"]THE BOMBER - how a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monsterFightingfan
I don't understand the outrage. It's not like they're saying he's a hero. It says right there on the cover: "monster". Is it because he's a good looking dude that people are accusing the magazine of glamorizing terrorism? Should they have found a less flattering photograph? Maybe photoshop some pimples on his face?
This shows children if they do something horrendous they'll be punished with fame. In all fairness, that isn't (mostly) Rolling Stone's fault. People complain whenever some media publication "glamorizes" criminals in this kind of way, but the fact is that they wouldn't do it if we the viewing public didn't demand it.I see what you did thereNobody complains when the media glamorize other CIA agents.
Why are they complaining about this one? :|
Stesilaus
A good number of high-profile mass murderers make covers.
How many covers has Charles Manson appeared on over the years?
Better yet, take this Time cover of the Columbine shooters as an example: Link. This one is remarkably similar to the Rolling Stone cover - nice photographs of the ones who did it, along with a question of what turned these guys into monsters.
Oleg_Huzwog
Very true, and it's kind of the point i was trying to make.
The reason why the Columbine dipshits did what they did was to become infamous. It had very little to do with the jocks and bullies (most of the kids they killed were their friends; fellow nerds hanging out in the library), and the media ate it up and gave them exactly what they wanted.
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