Boxing or Mixed Martial Arts?

Which do you prefer?

Discuss...

Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I love boxing for it's tradition, for its history. But MMA has me because it truly uses the human body as a weapon. To me that's a true definition of fighting.bigdcstile

Pretty much my view on it.

The only way a boxer could ever beat a MMA fighter of the same weight class is if they landed the first punch.javelin121

That is because MMA fighters nowadays learn multiple displicines. When UFC started most fighters only knew 1, maybe 2 different fighting styles. Most fighters now have a style which that are really good at, and they know another 2 or 3 for different situations.

MMA is where it is at now. Soon enough boxing fans will flood this thread and say that boxing is not dying and how boxing is better. IMO, MMA is better and I am hoping one day to go pro in the UFC.jfcundiff

Thing is, boxing isn't dying. It has the prestige and it has the monetary draw that MMA venues only wish to achieve. MMA, however, has achieved Pro Wrestling status. It's seen as much more fun, easier to get into, the draw is speed over just plain tactics. They're banking on the boxing/fight fans that don't want to see twelve rounds of dancing. They want to see one to three rounds of momentum changing action.

Both are relatively enjoyable, but Boxing is only rarely enjoyable. The fact that so many boxers have records like 55-2 and 33-0 shows the conscious lack of quality opponents, and thus lack of quality matches.

In MMA, one of the best Light Heavyweights and Heavyweights was Randy Couture, who is 16-8.

Boxing has an amazing history though.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]MMA is where it is at now. Soon enough boxing fans will flood this thread and say that boxing is not dying and how boxing is better. IMO, MMA is better and I am hoping one day to go pro in the UFC.bigdcstile

Thing is, boxing isn't dying. It has the prestige and it has the monetary draw that MMA venues only wish to achieve. MMA, however, has achieved Pro Wrestling status. It's seen as much more fun, easier to get into, the draw is speed over just plain tactics. They're banking on the boxing/fight fans that don't want to see twelve rounds of dancing. They want to see one to three rounds of momentum changing action.

Boxing is on a decline. Besides Hoya who else is the face of boxing. No one is anymore. Mayweather is gone and Oscar will soon follow. I love HW's and I could not name one nowadays. Besides that one big fight a year at least, what other draws does it have? None.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]MMA is where it is at now. Soon enough boxing fans will flood this thread and say that boxing is not dying and how boxing is better. IMO, MMA is better and I am hoping one day to go pro in the UFC.jfcundiff

Thing is, boxing isn't dying. It has the prestige and it has the monetary draw that MMA venues only wish to achieve. MMA, however, has achieved Pro Wrestling status. It's seen as much more fun, easier to get into, the draw is speed over just plain tactics. They're banking on the boxing/fight fans that don't want to see twelve rounds of dancing. They want to see one to three rounds of momentum changing action.

Boxing is on a decline. Besides Hoya who else is the face of boxing. No one is anymore. Mayweather is gone and Oscar will soon follow. I love HW's and I could not name one nowadays. Besides that one big fight a year at least, what other draws does it have? None.

And, even with that fact, there's still the money turnout. It still headlines in Vegas and in major venues overseas. My biggest beef with boxing is the lack of a notable heavyweight. Long are the days when you could name all the major fighters and rivalries and, even with that, it's still a money making machine. Popularity? I'll give you that, it is wavering. But money wise, it is in little trouble of continuing on. They just need that new hype to revolutionalize it once more.

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....jackpotco

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

That is interesting. An MMA fighter would most likely take that boxer to the ground and pound away at him. What can boxing do for you on the ground? Nothing. Standing up a boxer would give any MMA fighter a tough time, but any MMA fighter would not let a boxer stand for to long. Hell if a boxer wants to stand. an MMA fighter would throw some kicks and knees and let him see how those taste.

Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

Uh, what?

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[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....bigdcstile

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

Just because a boxer has quicker fist does not mean that an MMA fighter could not take that shot. Besides taking fists, MMA fighters also take knees, kicks, and elbows to the face along with fists here and there. No doubt a boxer would throw some nice combos, but that does not mean he would drop them.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

Not being a tough guy, you must've misunderstood. Just saying, regardless of what you learn, a street fight isn't two people agreeing to fight, measuring each other up. It's a spontaneous act where rules and disciplines give way to surviving the encounter. Whether you're a boxer or a martial artist, you're mind is on one thing: Take him out before he takes me out.

That is right. In a street fight I am not looking to touch gloves and make friends, I am here to take you out quick and easy. I must say that sometimes martial arts could help in a street fight. Not always, but you never know. First thing I think in a street fight is dropping the other guy without getting myself hurt.

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....bigdcstile

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

Not being a tough guy, you must've misunderstood. Just saying, regardless of what you learn, a street fight isn't two people agreeing to fight, measuring each other up. It's a spontaneous act where rules and disciplines give way to surviving the encounter. Whether you're a boxer or a martial artist, you're mind is on one thing: Take him out before he takes me out.

Yeah. Street fights are different each time, I didn't mean to imply that the boxer will always win. I just think a well trained boxer has an advantage in some street fights, more so than mma fighters most of the time. I guess im still a sucker for the sweet science.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

Not being a tough guy, you must've misunderstood. Just saying, regardless of what you learn, a street fight isn't two people agreeing to fight, measuring each other up. It's a spontaneous act where rules and disciplines give way to surviving the encounter. Whether you're a boxer or a martial artist, you're mind is on one thing: Take him out before he takes me out.

Yeah. Street fights are different each time, I didn't mean to imply that the boxer will always win. I just think a well trained boxer has an advantage in some street fights, more so than mma fighters most of the time. I guess im still a sucker for the sweet science.

I don't know how a boxer would have a huge advantage, but hey that is your opinion not mine.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....Johnny-Quest

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

Really? You can't predict how a person will fight in a "no holds barred" street fight regardless of the disciplines he's learned, boxing or otherwise. It's all based on the person. I've learned Tae Kwon Doe, Judo, Grecco Roman Wrestling, Boxing and Kickboxing. Know what I'm going to do in a fight? Snot rock you. Regardless of the fighting styles I learn or know, a fight is a fight on the street.

Whoa e tough dude here. I was just posting my opinion, that I think that boxers have a greater advantage because of the way I've seen boxers fight and their fists are alot quicker than many mma fighters I have seen. I didn't think I was going to get snot rocketed.

Not being a tough guy, you must've misunderstood. Just saying, regardless of what you learn, a street fight isn't two people agreeing to fight, measuring each other up. It's a spontaneous act where rules and disciplines give way to surviving the encounter. Whether you're a boxer or a martial artist, you're mind is on one thing: Take him out before he takes me out.

Yeah. Street fights are different each time, I didn't mean to imply that the boxer will always win. I just think a well trained boxer has an advantage in some street fights, more so than mma fighters most of the time. I guess im still a sucker for the sweet science.

I don't know how they have an advantage considering I've seen trained boxers just outright 'owned' in street fights by people who've never stepped in the ring.

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....jfcundiff

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

That is interesting. An MMA fighter would most likely take that boxer to the ground and pound away at him. What can boxing do for you on the ground? Nothing. Standing up a boxer would give any MMA fighter a tough time, but any MMA fighter would not let a boxer stand for to long. Hell if a boxer wants to stand. an MMA fighter would throw some kicks and knees and let him see how those taste.

All MMA fighters aren't ground specialist. Even if a boxer goes against a MMA guy who is a ground specialist, I would still give the boxer an advantage in a street fight. I hope you don't think just because the boxer is on the ground that he's just gonna lay there and get pounded out, especially not in a real "street" fight. He's gonna get poked in the eye, headbutted, etc.

Have you ever saw Chuck Liddel, Rampage, Wanderlei, or any other puncher fight a ground specialist? They don't really have any ground skills, but I've seen them destroy many seasoned ground fighters. I think this even further proves my point of the boxer having the advantage.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

[QUOTE="jackpotco"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]Boxing is more useful in real life so....ownage_denied

I would take a boxer in a street fight anyday. Most street fights end with the person who throws the 1st punch, boxers have more power and quickness than most mma fighters. Most likely the mma guy will try to grapple or try to bring the boxer into his fight, the boxer would have him on the ground with the 1st combo he threw and the mma guy wouldn't know what hit him.

That is interesting. An MMA fighter would most likely take that boxer to the ground and pound away at him. What can boxing do for you on the ground? Nothing. Standing up a boxer would give any MMA fighter a tough time, but any MMA fighter would not let a boxer stand for to long. Hell if a boxer wants to stand. an MMA fighter would throw some kicks and knees and let him see how those taste.

All MMA fighters aren't ground specialist. Even if a boxer goes against a MMA guy who is a ground specialist, I would still give the boxer an advantage in a street fight. I hope you don't think just because the boxer is on the ground that he's just gonna lay there and get pounded out, especially not in a real "street" fight. He's gonna get poked in the eye, headbutted, etc.

Have you ever saw Chuck Liddel, Rampage, Wanderlei, or any other puncher fight a ground specialist? They don't really have any ground skills, but I've seen them destroy many seasoned ground fighters. I think this even further proves my point of the boxer having the advantage.

Rampage has great ground skills in terms of wrestling, same with Liddell.