Amazing story that really goes to show you why we need guns in this country.
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I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.nocoolnamejim
Mhm, a kid died in my high school cuz they were fooling around with a shotgun one day
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.Bane_09
Mhm, a kid died in my high school cuz they were fooling around with a shotgun one day
Natural Selection at it's finest. The dumb never survive long, especially if they kill themselves with their own weapons.I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.nocoolnamejim
You need to rely on statistical inference to get to the conclusion that presence of guns makes death by guns more likely?
Obama thinks that kid shouldn't have been able to defend himself and his sister.LaihendiMore likely Obama thinks that you have to play the percentages and while high profile one-off events like this get conservatives wet, statistically they're FAR MORE RARE than the times when kids accidentally kill themselves because they find a loaded gun in their home. So you play the odds.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Obama thinks that kid shouldn't have been able to defend himself and his sister.nocoolnamejimMore likely Obama thinks that you have to play the percentages and while high profile one-off events like this get conservatives wet, statistically they're FAR MORE RARE than the times when kids accidentally kill themselves because they find a loaded gun in their home. So you play the odds. If someone accidentally kills himself then that's his own problem. Obama shouldn't be forcing the entire country to give up its liberty and means of defending itself from thieves and murderers just because there are some stupid kids that will die if the government doesn't protect them from themselves.
I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.nocoolnamejimShush with these ancedotal made up statistics using 1000 housholds ot of 300 million. I know it's BS because it's the exact opposite in the UK and yet they have guns in their house the chances are slimmer. So what invisible factor makes us higher?
I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.nocoolnamejim
I love how we keep getting pro-gun control people coming into stroies like these and saying they don't matter, and coming up with stuff that doesn't matter to the story. With responable owndership of weapons and tearching kids how to repect and use the weapon will almost negate accidentally shootings. It is the same with having a swimming pool. Kids can fall in and drown, and STATISTICALLY you are more likely to drown than accidentally shoot your self.
Also for the stories weapons being used to stop crime as being rare, alot of the time the media doesn't report them. The media doesn't like good news, and reporting a story of some would be robber being chased off by an armed homeowner wouldn't sell.
Maybe the parents have, idk, jobs? 15 years old is definitely old enough to be left alone at home. :|mems_1224so i can assume you believe this decision the parents made was correct?
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]And if that brave 15 year-old accidentally shot his sister with that AR-15 what would you say then?Amazing story that really goes to show you why we need guns in this country.
worlock77
And if the burglar ended up killing the 15 year old and his sister. What would you say then?
Maybe we need better security systems. I don't know why everyone always looks to justify violent solutions to problems first.
And if that brave 15 year-old accidentally shot his sister with that AR-15 what would you say then?[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
Amazing story that really goes to show you why we need guns in this country.
Chaos_HL21
And if the burglar ended up killing the 15 year old and his sister. What would you say then?
I would say that the kids should not have been left home alone. Now how's about an answer to my question?Are you willing to wait up to 5 minutes (or more if you live in a rural area?) for the police to show up when someone is breaking into your house or apartment? Crime on the climb, Response slowsChicago police response time is down in 2012Police Average Response Time for Priority One Calls in the Rural AreaPolice response time to emergency calls slowsMaybe we need better security systems. I don't know why everyone always looks to justify violent solutions to problems first.
VendettaRed07
[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="worlock77"] And if that brave 15 year-old accidentally shot his sister with that AR-15 what would you say then?worlock77
And if the burglar ended up killing the 15 year old and his sister. What would you say then?
I would say that the kids should not have been left home alone. Now how's about an answer to my question?Well 15 years old isn't really a kid, That is old enough to be home alone to baby sit his 12 year old sister.
But I would restate your answer they shouldn't of been left home alone without the right training. But that wasn't the case.
I would say that the kids should not have been left home alone. Now how's about an answer to my question?[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]
And if the burglar ended up killing the 15 year old and his sister. What would you say then?
Chaos_HL21
Well 15 years old isn't really a kid, That is old enough to be home alone to baby sit his 12 year old sister.
But I would restate your answer they shouldn't of been left home alone without the right training. But that wasn't the case.
Now how's about an answer to my question?[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Maybe the parents have, idk, jobs? 15 years old is definitely old enough to be left alone at home. :|cheese_game619so i can assume you believe this decision the parents made was correct? Why not? they're old enough to be left alone and obviously they taught them how to protect themselves should they ever have to.
Why not? they're old enough to be left alone and obviously they taught them how to protect themselves should they ever have to.mems_1224why is this such an amazing story if this is normal behaviour for american children
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]Obama thinks that kid shouldn't have been able to defend himself and his sister.LaihendiMore likely Obama thinks that you have to play the percentages and while high profile one-off events like this get conservatives wet, statistically they're FAR MORE RARE than the times when kids accidentally kill themselves because they find a loaded gun in their home. So you play the odds. If someone accidentally kills himself then that's his own problem. Obama shouldn't be forcing the entire country to give up its liberty and means of defending itself from thieves and murderers just because there are some stupid kids that will die if the government doesn't protect them from themselves. In this post: fvck statistics, Obama is wrong.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why not? they're old enough to be left alone and obviously they taught them how to protect themselves should they ever have to.cheese_game619why is this such an amazing story if this is normal behaviour for american children Who says shooting at burglars is an everyday thing?
[QUOTE="cheese_game619"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why not? they're old enough to be left alone and obviously they taught them how to protect themselves should they ever have to.mems_1224why is this such an amazing story if this is normal behaviour for american children Who says shooting at burglars is an everyday thing?
fox news probably
Who says shooting at burglars is an everyday thing?mems_1224well according to the story it was a very likely event in this case, seeing as how the neighbours had been broken into not long before the incident. the way you talk about it makes me think you see this story as an 'everything went to plan' kind of situation. as if leaving your kids at home with a gun was the best option here.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Who says shooting at burglars is an everyday thing?cheese_game619well according to the story it was a very likely event in this case, seeing as how the neighbours had been broken into not long before the incident. the way you talk about it makes me think you see this story as an 'everything went to plan' kind of situation. as if leaving your kids at home with a gun was the best option here. people can't tell the future. just because someone's house in the neighborhood got broken into doesnt mean anything.
I love how we keep getting gun rights advocates coming in with stories like this, but none of them ever bother bringing up that STATISTICALLY, having a gun in your home, ANY home, makes you more likely to die from a gun related death and stories like this never include how often those brave kids accidentally shoot themselves, their family members, or their friends.nocoolnamejimOwning a car STATISTICALLY makes you more likely to die in a car. :roll: See what I did there?
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