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#1 rawsavon
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Favre to Vikings...2 year deal

Thank God this is over...now sports fans can move on with their lives and ESPN can focus on other NFL stories (besides where Vick and Favre will end up)

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#2 Wilfred_Owen
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Couldn't you at least make a link about it. Sheesh.
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#3 muller39
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2 year deal eh. Now im going to have to change my rosters on Madden 10.

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#4 Pirate700
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Yep. Everyone should have known he was still coming. Everyone seemed to have forgotten that he bought a house in Minn.

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#5 Maqda7
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There is a sports forum you know.
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#6 rawsavon
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Couldn't you at least make a link about it. Sheesh.Wilfred_Owen
When I said breaking news that meant no link yet...it was on ESPN radio...not website yet (at the time I posted it and yes I checked) So I broke the news to yall before there was a link and you complain...good job on that one
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#7 bluezy
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Honestly, I would like to see him have a dreadful return. You don't play games with retirement, especially when you're a prominent athlete such as Favre.
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#8 Pirate700
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There is a sports forum you know.Maqda7
Football is beyond sports. It's a religion.

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#9 clyde46
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Any news on what the Steelers are doing? SKY sports news doesnt show anything from the NFL. Its all build up to the new Premier league season.

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#10 rawsavon
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There is a sports forum you know.Maqda7
and we talk sports a lot here...vick, eagles, wins, team vs team, etc
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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]Couldn't you at least make a link about it. Sheesh.rawsavon
When I said breaking news that meant no link yet...it was on ESPN radio...not website yet (at the time I posted it and yes I checked) So I broke the news to yall before there was a link and you complain...good job on that one

Apparently you lack google skills? I posted two minutes after you made the topic and found an article that was put up 7 minutes before at 11:15. According the internet clocks. So yea......
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#12 LZ71
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Ugh. Why won't he just stay retired? I hate it when players do this, it's ridiculous.

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#13 FUBAR24
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god this guy is the Chris Chelios of hockey. he just doesnt quit no matter how many times he says he will
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#14 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]Couldn't you at least make a link about it. Sheesh.Wilfred_Owen
When I said breaking news that meant no link yet...it was on ESPN radio...not website yet (at the time I posted it and yes I checked) So I broke the news to yall before there was a link and you complain...good job on that one

Apparently you lack google skills? I posted two minutes after you made the topic and found an article that was put up 7 minutes before at 11:15. According the internet clocks. So yea......

I only trust espn for my sports news The other sites...yahoo, nbc, and especially fox jump the gun on sports stories all the time, post "rumors" as facts They are playing catch up, ESPN has the best insiders, they get it right, and can afford to wait till things are confirmed before posting So ya, I could have googled and trusted some other site, but I go with the best...and they broke it, but did not have a link yet
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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] When I said breaking news that meant no link yet...it was on ESPN radio...not website yet (at the time I posted it and yes I checked) So I broke the news to yall before there was a link and you complain...good job on that onerawsavon
Apparently you lack google skills? I posted two minutes after you made the topic and found an article that was put up 7 minutes before at 11:15. According the internet clocks. So yea......

I only trust espn for my sports news The other sites...yahoo, nbc, and especially fox jump the gun on sports stories all the time, post "rumors" as facts They are playing catch up, ESPN has the best insiders, they get it right, and can afford to wait till things are confirmed before posting So ya, I could have googled and trusted some other site, but I go with the best...and they broke it, but did not have a link yet

You know there is NFL.com...right? :|

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"] Apparently you lack google skills? I posted two minutes after you made the topic and found an article that was put up 7 minutes before at 11:15. According the internet clocks. So yea......Pirate700

I only trust espn for my sports news The other sites...yahoo, nbc, and especially fox jump the gun on sports stories all the time, post "rumors" as facts They are playing catch up, ESPN has the best insiders, they get it right, and can afford to wait till things are confirmed before posting So ya, I could have googled and trusted some other site, but I go with the best...and they broke it, but did not have a link yet

You know there is NFL.com...right? :|

Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spin
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Favre, the Michael Jordan of the NFL in terms of not making up his mind.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I only trust espn for my sports news The other sites...yahoo, nbc, and especially fox jump the gun on sports stories all the time, post "rumors" as facts They are playing catch up, ESPN has the best insiders, they get it right, and can afford to wait till things are confirmed before posting So ya, I could have googled and trusted some other site, but I go with the best...and they broke it, but did not have a link yetrawsavon

You know there is NFL.com...right? :|

Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spin

You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]You know there is NFL.com...right? :|

dodgerblue13

Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spin

You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...

Seriously, ESPN is known as BSPN for a reason. They make up everything and are biased as all hell.

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#21 svm128
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Favre is hilarious he just don't know when to quit.

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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spinPirate700

You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...

Seriously, ESPN is known as BSPN for a reason. They make up everything and are biased as all hell.

I dont see how ESPN is biased. They do tend to over hype things but usually wait for things to be confirmed before blasting.
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Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...
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#24 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]You know there is NFL.com...right? :|

dodgerblue13

Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spin

You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...

No, They DO have bias...just less than NFL.com

Fox, yahoo, cbs, nbc just seem to make up stuff all the time that is not even true...like they take the rumors section off ESPN backpage and make it real news

ESPN is biased (taking playmakers off the air for example)

But they have the best beat writers...Chris Mortenson, Ed Werder and Sal Palentonio for what I watch for (NFC East)

They just seem to be the least biased...the lesser of two evils

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[QUOTE="Maqda7"]There is a sports forum you know.Pirate700

Football is beyond sports. It's a religion.

Manning be with you my brother...

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#26 JML897
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Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...tbone29

Exactly what I was thinking...I got tired of this act years ago.

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#27 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Accurate news...But VERY biased...the whole owned by the NFL thing -I will watch the games they put on -but they always have their "spin" on stuff like Roger Goodell's decisions...so i just ignore their news postings -they are like watching Fox news...accurate but with major spinPirate700

You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...

Seriously, ESPN is known as BSPN for a reason. They make up everything and are biased as all hell.

They at least label things online as rumors...the other sites pose them as news I also enjoy most of the ex player analysis that they have...except for E. Smith...he is terrible (and I am a huge Cowboy fan)
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#28 dodgerblue13
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"] You can't make the case that ESPN has no bias...rawsavon

Seriously, ESPN is known as BSPN for a reason. They make up everything and are biased as all hell.

They at least label things online as rumors...the other sites pose them as news I also enjoy most of the ex player analysis that they have...except for E. Smith...he is terrible (and I am a huge Cowboy fan)

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports: The vibe at Vikings camp: Favre could come back LA Times: Brett Favre may sign with Vikings today Washington Post: Favre Reportedly to Sign With Vikings Could, may, reportedly. All key words signaling that they aren't attempting to post facts. Just the updated story. There are many credible sources other than ESPN.
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Super Bowl.
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#30 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Seriously, ESPN is known as BSPN for a reason. They make up everything and are biased as all hell.

dodgerblue13

They at least label things online as rumors...the other sites pose them as news I also enjoy most of the ex player analysis that they have...except for E. Smith...he is terrible (and I am a huge Cowboy fan)

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports: The vibe at Vikings camp: Favre could come back LA Times: Brett Favre may sign with Vikings today Washington Post: Favre Reportedly to Sign With Vikings Could, may, reportedly. All key words signaling that they aren't attempting to post facts. Just the updated story. There are many credible sources other than ESPN.

Those work for this particular issue...Because this STORY IS SO BIG they have to be accurate

But I have seen that Fox, CBS, NBC generally report more rumors as true and report more outlandish things as rumors....things that have no chance of being true

Like I said about NFL.com...way too biased...would you go to walmart.com for investment advice on them or a financial site

Not saying ESPN is perfect, just best of the bad

-I like lots of their beat writers and think they try to report accuratly

BTW, I actually like Jay Glazer...he seems to be the only one outside of ESPN with REAL connections to players to get inside stories

To be honest, I do not really consider Newspapers anymore...they are about to die out...I am sure they are accurate (maybe the most, I don't know)...I just don't think about them anymore for news...like most people (as seen in dwindling subscriptions and readership and them cutting loose experienced writers like Tony Kornheiser from the Washington Post)

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I just lol'd. This is getting sad. :P

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Yep looks like I won't be watching ESPN for a few days.

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Those work for this particular issue...Because this STORY IS SO BIG they have to be accurate

But I have seen that Fox, CBS, NBC generally report more rumors as true and report more outlandish things as rumors....things that have no chance of being true

Like I said about NFL.com...way too biased...would you go to walmart.com for investment advice on them or a financial site

Not saying ESPN is perfect, just best of the bad

-I like lots of their beat writers and think they try to report accuratly

BTW, I actually like Jay Glazer...he seems to be the only one outside of ESPN with REAL connections to players to get inside stories

To be honest, I do not really consider Newspapers anymore...they are about to die out...I am sure they are accurate (maybe the most, I don't know)...I just don't think about them anymore for news...like most people (as seen in dwindling subscriptions and readership and them cutting loose experienced writers like Tony Kornheiser from the Washington Post)rawsavon

Major newspapers still produce legitimate stories. Just because hard copy versions of the news have dwindled majorly doesn't mean their websites have taken a hit.

:o Look! Negative PR about the NFL...right on NFL.com!

NFLPA director Smith convinced players will be locked out in 2011

It's from the Associated Press. It's not written by the NFL and yet it's on the site.

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Yep looks like I won't be watching ESPN for a few days.

CommanderShiro
they might bust out the favre ticker again..
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My home team of the Vikes are finally getting Farve. I feel as if this is a publicity stunt, but either way, it is exciting. You should've been listening to the radio when he got out of the plane. :lol:
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Those work for this particular issue...Because this STORY IS SO BIG they have to be accurate

But I have seen that Fox, CBS, NBC generally report more rumors as true and report more outlandish things as rumors....things that have no chance of being true

Like I said about NFL.com...way too biased...would you go to walmart.com for investment advice on them or a financial site

Not saying ESPN is perfect, just best of the bad

-I like lots of their beat writers and think they try to report accuratly

BTW, I actually like Jay Glazer...he seems to be the only one outside of ESPN with REAL connections to players to get inside stories

To be honest, I do not really consider Newspapers anymore...they are about to die out...I am sure they are accurate (maybe the most, I don't know)...I just don't think about them anymore for news...like most people (as seen in dwindling subscriptions and readership and them cutting loose experienced writers like Tony Kornheiser from the Washington Post)

Major newspapers still produce legitimate stories. Just because hard copy versions of the news have dwindled majorly doesn't mean their websites have taken a hit.

:o Look! Negative PR about the NFL...right on NFL.com!

NFLPA director Smith convinced players will be locked out in 2011

It's from the Associated Press. It's not written by the NFL and yet it's on the site.

1. I said I don't know about newspapers...I said they may be the most accurate, I just don't even think about them anymore. 2. nfl.com will report stories...they will just be the most biased...as anyone would expect -and of course they want this story out there -they want public pressure to stop the lockout before it happens...what better way than promoting the story,,,it is nfl.com not nflowners.com..they will push the nfl agenda, not the owners Like i said, I am not saying ESPN is god...just seems to be the best of the worst...IMO you can have yours too if you think that nfl.com is not biased, go with that
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Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...tbone29
Even though it's a two year deal? :|
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Argh! Why won't this guy just go away? He's starting to tick me off. :x

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[QUOTE="tbone29"]Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...Razor-Lazor
Even though it's a two year deal? :|

obviously.
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Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...tbone29
Oh Crap! :cry: I am sick of this. He should just stay retired
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WOW, Worst than MJ
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Maqda7"]There is a sports forum you know.ConBro

Football is beyond sports. It's a religion.

Manning be with you my brother...

In the name of the Offense, Defense, and the Special Teams...

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kind of just pissing me off nwo
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[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"][QUOTE="tbone29"]Gah, that just means we gotta hear about this crap next summer...Tjeremiah1988
Even though it's a two year deal? :|

obviously.

Wasn't the Jet's deal a 2 year deal? Or am I mistaken? Either way, he will retire at the end of the year again, pull this same stuff in the offseason. He has done it every year for the last how many years? I hope he has a horrendous season and finally retires for good. I am tired of hearing about him.

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"] Even though it's a two year deal? :|Juice_13

obviously.

Wasn't the Jet's deal a 2 year deal? Or am I mistaken? Either way, he will retire at the end of the year again, pull this same stuff in the offseason. He has done it every year for the last how many years? I hope he has a horrendous season and finally retires for good. I am tired of hearing about him.

Only $$$ in an NFL contract that matters is what is guaranteed so they always back load deals...even 2 year ones...knowing that they will only have to pay year 1 and the signing bonus... After that, they just cut the player and don't owe any more $$$
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#46 Juice_13
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[QUOTE="Juice_13"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] obviously.rawsavon

Wasn't the Jet's deal a 2 year deal? Or am I mistaken? Either way, he will retire at the end of the year again, pull this same stuff in the offseason. He has done it every year for the last how many years? I hope he has a horrendous season and finally retires for good. I am tired of hearing about him.

Only $$$ in an NFL contract that matters is what is guaranteed so they always back load deals...even 2 year ones...knowing that they will only have to pay year 1 and the signing bonus... After that, they just cut the player and don't owe any more $$$

I am well aware of that, and I didn't mean anything about guaranteed money or contracts. I'm just saying, wasn't it a 2 year deal last year, which he only played 1 year for? And then the Jets released him because he said he was going to retire, no?

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[QUOTE="Juice_13"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Juice_13"]

Wasn't the Jet's deal a 2 year deal? Or am I mistaken? Either way, he will retire at the end of the year again, pull this same stuff in the offseason. He has done it every year for the last how many years? I hope he has a horrendous season and finally retires for good. I am tired of hearing about him.

Only $$$ in an NFL contract that matters is what is guaranteed so they always back load deals...even 2 year ones...knowing that they will only have to pay year 1 and the signing bonus... After that, they just cut the player and don't owe any more $$$

I am well aware of that, and I didn't mean anything about guaranteed money or contracts. I'm just saying, wasn't it a 2 year deal last year, which he only played 1 year for? And then the Jets released him because he said he was going to retire, no?

IMO It has to do more with NFL culture They inflate the contracts a ton (backloaded) knowing they will not be finished in that state (either cut the player ot know he will retire) Quick Example Signing bonus = 5 million Year 1 = 5 million Year 2 = 20 million ==== 30 million contract over 2 years = 15 million a year average, but it is really a 10 million 1 year deal I don't know why they do this...player ego is my guess (my average is in the top 5 in the league) But teams always force players to rework their deals when they get close to the backend big $$$...they say rework or get cut VERY rarely does it come back to haunt the team The only example I have it Larry Fitz. of the Cardinals...he was owed a ton over the couple years of his deal...what are cardinals going to do, cut the best WR in the league, no He reworked into an even better longterm deal
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There is a sports forum you know.Maqda7
yea, I was gonna say the same thing
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I think it does have to do with player egos. They get the contract worth 10 mil, 15 mil a season and they are satisfied. I think it's quite hilarious. It's a good idea by the teams though, they get away with paying a lot less for the players.

I just brought up the Jets contract because someone mentioned about how we wouldnt have to listen to this next season because it is supposedly a 2 year contract, but I think the same thing will happen next year.

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[QUOTE="Juice_13"]

I think it does have to do with player egos. They get the contract worth 10 mil, 15 mil a season and they are satisfied. I think it's quite hilarious. It's a good idea by the teams though, they get away with paying a lot less for the players.

I just brought up the Jets contract because someone mentioned about how we wouldnt have to listen to this next season because it is supposedly a 2 year contract, but I think the same thing will happen next year.

Ya, this is (IMO) a 1 year deal with an option Most likely 1 year deal Unless they are just awesome together (highly doubtful)...then it is a good deal for both parties in year 2...he gets to play and team has allstar QB for not that much $$$ (way less than Stafford $$)... But like I said, highly unlikely that someone skips camp (no timing with the WR's) and comes in and wins it all (even if they do know the offense)