British Parliament approves "horror" of human-animal hybrids

The Parliament approved a law that would allow scientists to inject human DNA into animal ova, in order to create an embryo. Supporters of the bill paint it as Science vs. the Catholic Church, which neglects the fact that a lot of nonCatholic Christians and most Muslims also oppose this bill.

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i think the whole idea is kinda creepy. watch out for those mad scientists- don't people ever learn their lessons from Frankenstein- that sometimes science needs to be limited or else it could produce bad things.

This would allow to grow organs in animals...help humanity, save lives. There are really 2 ways of looking at it.

Hurting Animals whilst helping Humans vs. Not hurting animals to help humans

Individual opinions...a great thing.

I made A topic on this on the GSUK board here before the bill went through, and the general consensus on there was that anything that can help save lives is good. They have to destroy the hybrids after 14 days, so its not like we are creating monsters with 8 legs and 3 eyes or anything like that. They are creating the embryos only. It cannot create "bad things". It is not even comparable to frankenstein.

EDIT: And well done for providing a balanced neutral link. Here's the BBC's page on it for people who want to a balanced article for it rather than the biased one the TC posted.

The Parliament approved a law that would allow scientists to inject human DNA into animal ova, in order to create an embryo. Supporters of the bill paint it as Science vs. the Catholic Church, which neglects the fact that a lot of nonCatholic Christians and most Muslims also oppose this bill.

Here is the whole story

i think the whole idea is kinda creepy. watch out for those mad scientists- don't people ever learn their lessons from Frankenstein- that sometimes science needs to be limited or else it could produce bad things.

whipassmt

They're not breeding man-bear-pigs! There could potentially be huge benefits from this experiment. One area they are trying to make headway on, is eradicating degenerative disorders like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. The people opposing this bill are the same type of people who opposed the experimentation which lead to the eradication of small pox which has since saved millions of lives.

That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Junkie_man

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

Forgive me if I'm a little put off by crossing human and animal DNA into an embryo that will be used as a mere test and killed after 14 days.

The miracle cures being put out for this sound remarkably like the ones put out for embryonic stem cell research. . . .and we all know how that one turned out.:roll:

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?swizz-the-gamer

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

Forgive me if I'm a little put off by crossing human and animal DNA into an embryo that will be used as a mere test and killed after 14 days.

The miracle cures being put out for this sound remarkably like the ones put out for embryonic stem cell research. . . .and we all know how that one turned out.:roll:

Enlighten me, how did it turn out?

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

Forgive me if I'm a little put off by crossing human and animal DNA into an embryo that will be used as a mere test and killed after 14 days.

The miracle cures being put out for this sound remarkably like the ones put out for embryonic stem cell research. . . .and we all know how that one turned out.:roll:

......... embryotic stem cell research is leading to some huge advancements in medicine already... what are you talking about?

With that said, I'm also opposed to such a thing.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

That's why it's called research. To see if it can be used to cure serious diseases.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

Forgive me if I'm a little put off by crossing human and animal DNA into an embryo that will be used as a mere test and killed after 14 days.

The miracle cures being put out for this sound remarkably like the ones put out for embryonic stem cell research. . . .and we all know how that one turned out.:roll:

Just because we aren't seeing the benefits yet doesn't mean there aren't any. Medical research is a long long long process.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

Are you going to pretend that there is a rational reason for this, or just accept it is an illogical feeling? (fine if it's the latter, everyone has them.)

Forgive me if I'm a little put off by crossing human and animal DNA into an embryo that will be used as a mere test and killed after 14 days.

The miracle cures being put out for this sound remarkably like the ones put out for embryonic stem cell research. . . .and we all know how that one turned out.:roll:

First, we are not crossing animal and human DNA. All the DNA in the cells is human, but the cytoplasm (and specifically the ribosomes that assemble the proteins encoded by the DNA) are animal. The ball of cells isn't even considered an embryo and is not viable, so isn't alive even by your definition ( presumably that it has potential life) and so cannot be killed. And secondly it is still early days for stem cell research, I rather think you are jumping the gun in claiming that it will not produce a useful advancement. They said the same about Faraday's experiments, and just look at what they lead to.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Dracargen

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]That. . . .is disgusting.:?Mr_sprinkles

We don't even know if this can cure anything. . . .and now people are assuming it will?

It sounds cool and freaky at the same time.

I hope the scientists will be able to draw the line in the future when the results starts looking less and less like an animal and more and more like a primate... or human.

I hope they're able to draw a line somewhere if the research results in intelligent creatures suffering from severe pain and extreme body malformities.

I hope they don't stick to this "the ends justify the means" - motto all the way through.

The Parliament approved a law that would allow scientists to inject human DNA into animal ova, in order to create an embryo. Supporters of the bill paint it as Science vs. the Catholic Church, which neglects the fact that a lot of nonCatholic Christians and most Muslims also oppose this bill.

Here is the whole story

i think the whole idea is kinda creepy. watch out for those mad scientists- don't people ever learn their lessons from Frankenstein- that sometimes science needs to be limited or else it could produce bad things.

whipassmt

You might not know but Mary Shelly (author of Frankenstein) was a christian and the book is more about parents not looking after their chldren.

The only part that will be passed on that is still animal is the Mitrocondrial DNA, the only thing this does is respiration. This by itself could cure mitrochondrial diseases.

Anyway this is just for reasearch, these will never grow up in to actual people.

I love it. Everytime something pertaining to stem-cell research comes up the church throws a fit.

Why don't they just shut-up and stop trying to hold society for God's sake. It is nothing but shear ignorance that has these people oppossing the research and it amazes me how viciously they fight it without having any damn understanding of what it entails.....

I'm sorry but I don't see what's creepy about creating a ball of 100 cells with human nuclei but animal cytoplasms, that could lead to research that alleviates suffering from truly horrifying conditions that thousands of people face. Junkie_man

agreed

Man-Bear-Pig a reality? :odante_123456

no no no, its bear pigman

half wolf half man? A real live werewolf? dear god...mohfrontline

That would be so badass!

MAKE ME A WEREWOLF PLEASE!!!!

You don't have a clue about Britian at all

Christianity is not as big here as in America.

43% of the Uk declare themselves as athiest.

Only 3% of UK citizens attend church reguarly.

More poeple are present in Saturday and Sunday morning watching in person football/ soccor than in the church pews on a Sunday morning.

BTW theres also a British law wherby your religious beliefs are not aloud to affect your vote in parliment which is why Tony Blair had to denounce his faith when he became Prime Minister.

So this may be shock horror to the deeply angligan Americans but us Brits would rather see scientific discovery.

"October 19 2011

AIDS HAS BEEN CURED"

You don't have a clue about Britian at all

Christianity is not as big here as in America.

43% of the Uk declare themselves as athiest.

Only 3% of UK citizens attend church reguarly.

More poeple are present in Saturday and Sunday morning watching in person football/ soccor than in the church pews on a Sunday morning.

BTW theres also a British law wherby your religious beliefs are not aloud to affect your vote in parliment which is why Tony Blair had to denounce his faith when he became Prime Minister.

So this may be shock horror to the deeply angligan Americans but us Brits would rather see scientific discovery.

muff07

Well said. People need to do a bit more research before jumping to conclusions about what us Brits are up to. We're trying to cure diseases by using some cells and and everyone goes mental saying it's wrong. Crazy...

They're just embryos, it's not like they're making crab people or anything.

So this may be shock horror to the deeply angligan Americans but us Brits would rather see scientific discovery.muff07

Just because SOME Americans are religous doesn't mean a thing, many Christians I know are pro-stem cell research and aren't going to go crazy over an embryo.