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Way back in the day. It was mandatory for chorus in elementary school. :P
I completely forgot everything though.
I learned in a music class we had to take in Elementary School. I'm not one of those people who can learn songs by ear, and I can't memorize stuff off of videos, so reading sheet music is the only way I could learn how to play anything on piano.
As for learning how to read it, all I needed was those little acronyms for the notes on the bars (Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge for the treble and Good Boys Do Fine Always on the bass cleff).
[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I'm taking the grade 5 theory exam this August so yes.pianist
It would suck to get to that exam, then have to tell yourself "Crap! I KNEW I forgot to learn something important!" :P
That would really suck, but I took a trial exam and got a 75% not a good score but there a lot of stupid mistakes that I made(like forgetting to finish the SATB)
Hope I can get a distinction in the actual exam.
It's easy. Every line and space has a name.
The treble clef starts on an E and the bass clef starts on a G and you just have to count up from the alphabet from there. The sharps and flats are either a semitone lower(flat) or a semitone higher(sharp) of the note they are beside. Time signature is the number of beats per measure. On a time signature, the above number is the amount of beats per bar and the lower number is the interval of notes they're using ie. 4/4 means 4 quarter notes per measure. Key signature shows the number of sharps or flats that are to always be played in a piece of music unless marked otherwise with a natural sign.
There, those are the essentials of music.ShaneBeck
Ya, reading simple notes isn't very hard if you grasp the basics.
It's easy. Every line and space has a name.
The treble clef starts on an E and the bass clef starts on a G and you just have to count up from the alphabet from there. The sharps and flats are either a semitone lower(flat) or a semitone higher(sharp) of the note they are beside. Time signature is the number of beats per measure. On a time signature, the above number is the amount of beats per bar and the lower number is the interval of notes they're using ie. 4/4 means 4 quarter notes per measure. Key signature shows the number of sharps or flats that are to always be played in a piece of music unless marked otherwise with a natural sign.
There, those are the essentials of music.ShaneBeck
The thing is that intellectually understanding the staff system is not difficult, but applying it is. When most people say they have trouble reading music, it's not that they can't figure out what a note is. It's that they can't translate that information into the correct physical response in real time.
[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I'm taking the grade 5 theory exam this August so yes.Lonelynight
It would suck to get to that exam, then have to tell yourself "Crap! I KNEW I forgot to learn something important!" :P
That would really suck, but I took a trial exam and got a 75% not a good score but there a lot of stupid mistakes that I made(like forgetting to finish the SATB)
Hope I can get a distinction in the actual exam.
That's what trial exams are for. But I was referring to the rather proposterous notion of arriving at a grade 5 theory exam and realizing that you forgot to learn how to read music. Apparently, I failed at teh funnay.
[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]It's easy. Every line and space has a name.
The treble clef starts on an E and the bass clef starts on a G and you just have to count up from the alphabet from there. The sharps and flats are either a semitone lower(flat) or a semitone higher(sharp) of the note they are beside. Time signature is the number of beats per measure. On a time signature, the above number is the amount of beats per bar and the lower number is the interval of notes they're using ie. 4/4 means 4 quarter notes per measure. Key signature shows the number of sharps or flats that are to always be played in a piece of music unless marked otherwise with a natural sign.
There, those are the essentials of music.pianist
The thing is that intellectually understanding the staff system is not difficult, but applying it is. When most people say they have trouble reading music, it's not that they can't figure out what a note is. It's that they can't translate that information into the correct physical response in real time.
I can read sheet music relatively well for my age, and learning (as pianist noted) is only a matter of practice. Start with simple notes and rythms, listening to their actual sound, then gradual try to do it for your self. There are a variety of books on teh subject and if you are dilligent enough you will find yourself a capable music-reader within several months.
The hard part then, is to be able to 'sight-read' the music on your prefered instrument, which can take years and years to become effective at. good luck :)
[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I'm taking the grade 5 theory exam this August so yes.pianist
It would suck to get to that exam, then have to tell yourself "Crap! I KNEW I forgot to learn something important!" :P
That would really suck, but I took a trial exam and got a 75% not a good score but there a lot of stupid mistakes that I made(like forgetting to finish the SATB)
Hope I can get a distinction in the actual exam.
That's what trial exams are for. But I was referring to the rather proposterous notion of arriving at a grade 5 theory exam and realizing that you forgot to learn how to read music. Apparently, I failed at teh funnay.
I don't think you failed at teh funnay, I'm just too stupid to figure out the joke :(
Meaning they can't operate an instrument properly?ShaneBeck
Meaning that reading music is a two-stage process - you must first interpret what you see, then translate it into the proper physical response (i.e. playing the right note the right way at the simplest level). And because this has to occur in real-time, it is difficult to learn initially, even if you perfectly understand the theoretical concepts behind the staff system. Simply put, you can't just read up on the staff system and expect to be able to use it on any instrument at a whim. It may be easier to pick up other instruments after you understand staff notation - but you'll still struggle with the new instrument while you learn what the notation really MEANS in terms of playing that instrument.
I wouldn't say that you can't operate an instrument properly if you can't read music... because a lot of people learn by ear, and can get by just fine with simple music. They only run into problems when the music becomes too complicated to remember or to learn by listening to recordings.
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Alto clef is the most familiar to me, but I can still work my way through treble and bass.
ShaneBeck
I sit in the peculiar section of the orchestra - viola.
[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Alto clef is the most familiar to me, but I can still work my way through treble and bass.
Oleg_Huzwog
I sit in the peculiar section of the orchestra - viola.
[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Alto clef is the most familiar to me, but I can still work my way through treble and bass.
Oleg_Huzwog
I sit in the peculiar section of the orchestra - viola.
Oh, viola....The instrument tbat is a subject to a lot of jokes.....But.....I'll spare you :)
Come to think of it, the only music I can't read in sheet music, is the "new" way of writing music, like Penderecki's Threnody for Victims of Hiroshima. I can't read that type of sheet music :(
[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Oh, viola....The instrument tbat is a subject to a lot of jokes.....But.....I'll spare you :)
pianist
Unjustifiably so, it should be added. The viola is a beautiful instrument.
I know. That's why I spared him :) Shostakovich 11th symphony 3rd movement has an awesome viola solo backed up by Pizz's in the Cello and bass :)
Also, my school is doing the Bartok Concerto for Viola, along with Organ symphony and a piece by De Falla
[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Oh, viola....The instrument tbat is a subject to a lot of jokes.....But.....I'll spare you :)
pianist
Unjustifiably so, it should be added. The viola is a beautiful instrument.
I'll say the violin is better but thats because I play it :P
[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Oh, viola....The instrument tbat is a subject to a lot of jokes.....But.....I'll spare you :)
Lonelynight
Unjustifiably so, it should be added. The viola is a beautiful instrument.
I'll say the violin is better but thats because I play it :P
i hate playing it because I suck at it. and the fingers are far closer together than I'm used to :evil:I love the violin when it's played well though. :) (I play the Bass)
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