Catholic Church funded ACORN and Obama

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#1 JoeRatz16
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Not Obama's campaign. But in the 1980s the Catholic Campaign for Human Development funded a group that was headed by Obama. They also funded ACORN, but now they have stopped funding ACORN as the Vatican is urging Bishop's to crackdown on such activities.

shocking, no?

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I don't know what point you are trying to make.
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Hannity and Colmes found a book by Ayers from the mid-70's where Ayers dedicated the book to Sirhan Sirhan, who is the killer of Robert Kennedy. How Democrats can align themselves with someone with these crazy associations like Wright, Khaledi, Pflager, and Ayers is crazy.

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At this point I dont think anyone cares.
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It is an election, but even so I think a lot of things that really don't matter are getting blown out of proportion.
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#6 Oleg_Huzwog
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So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

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#7 Darthmatt
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It is an election, but even so I think a lot of things that really don't matter are getting blown out of proportion.duxup
I agree. And its not like the republican party doesnt have skeletons in their closet. And are we forgetting there has been plenty of dishonest behavior from conservatives in past elections too. We just need to move past this and get on with it. Either way, the ACORN issue is not going to decide the election on way or the other.
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So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

Oleg_Huzwog

I think he wants us to vote for Ron Paul, he hates acorns.

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#9 Darthmatt
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

Sajo7

I think he wants us to vote for Ron Paul, he hates acorns.

So that means TC is anti squirrel? Blasphemy.
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#10 duxup
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

Sajo7

I think he wants us to vote for Ron Paul, he hates acorns.

That is why he will never be president, the squirrel vote will bury him.

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#11 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

duxup

I think he wants us to vote for Ron Paul, he hates acorns.

That is why he will never be president, the squirrel vote will bury him.

Damn rascals, living off the hard work of trees across the nation.

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Catholic church funded ACORN AND OBAMA?!

OH SNAP! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS IN LEAGUES WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS!

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#13 Sajo7
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Catholic church funded ACORN AND OBAMA?!

OH SNAP! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS IN LEAGUES WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS!

Kuhu

They're going to merge Jesus and Mohammad into one Super Prophet.

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Hannity and Colmes found a book by Ayers from the mid-70's where Ayers dedicated the book to Sirhan Sirhan, who is the killer of Robert Kennedy. How Democrats can align themselves with someone with these crazy associations like Wright, Khaledi, Pflager, and Ayers is crazy.

jfcundiff

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. Duxup is right. things are blown way out of proportion. People should be offended and angry at the republican campain for these smear compaigns assuming that republicans are dumb enough to believe them.

The Bill Ayers accusation is so blown out of proportion its unbelievable. Its like saying someone you work with now, but dont hang out with (we'll call him hank), murdered smoeone 20 years ago, before you even knew Hank. He served his time and is now on the straight and narrow working a legitimate job with you, but because you know him, youre considered a murderer too.

Obama was 8 when Ayers had loose ties with a terrorist group that commited a terrist act. Years later when Ayers was on the straight and narrow as a PROFESSOR of a universit, he served on the same council as Obama to reform education. Yea..terrorist..right.

The Khaledi accusation is another one. Obama was seen at a convention with Khaledi, yes, but Khaledi is a proffesor for Columbia University. Not a terrorist. If hes so bad than how come the IRI(international republican institute), which McCain was charimen of during this time, gave Khaledis research group nearly 500,000 dollars for research?

Look, im not saying vote Obama, im not saying Vote McCain. All im saying is show youre smarter than the smears and dont base your decision on this BS.

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[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

Catholic church funded ACORN AND OBAMA?!

OH SNAP! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS IN LEAGUES WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS!

Sajo7

They're going to merge Jesus and Mohammad into one Super Prophet.

Rofl that made me spit out my irun bru

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Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

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#17 jubino
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Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

Jaysonguy

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

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#18 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]

Hannity and Colmes found a book by Ayers from the mid-70's where Ayers dedicated the book to Sirhan Sirhan, who is the killer of Robert Kennedy. How Democrats can align themselves with someone with these crazy associations like Wright, Khaledi, Pflager, and Ayers is crazy.

Buddha_basic

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. Duxup is right. things are blown way out of proportion. People should be offended and angry at the republican campain for these smear compaigns assuming that republicans are dumb enough to believe them.

The Bill Ayers accusation is so blown out of proportion its unbelievable. Its like saying someone you work with now, but dont hang out with (we'll call him hank), murdered smoeone 20 years ago, before you even knew Hank. He served his time and is now on the straight and narrow working a legitimate job with you, but because you know him, youre considered a murderer too.

Obama was 8 when Ayers had loose ties with a terrorist group that commited a terrist act. Years later when Ayers was on the straight and narrow as a PROFESSOR of a universit, he served on the same council as Obama to reform education. Yea..terrorist..right.

The Khaledi accusation is another one. Obama was seen at a convention with Khaledi, yes, but Khaledi is a proffesor for Columbia University. Not a terrorist. If hes so bad than how come the IRI(international republican institute), which McCain was charimen of during this time, gave Khaledis research group nearly 500,000 dollars for research?

Look, im not saying vote Obama, im not saying Vote McCain. All im saying is show youre smarter than the smears and dont base your decision on this BS.

Ya, some idiots (Palin) make it like he was BFFs with Ayers, the most they probably did was shake hands and talk (which would probably have been required on the council) other then that they dont go to bars together and chat about the good old days when Obama was 8 years old)

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[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

Catholic church funded ACORN AND OBAMA?!

OH SNAP! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS IN LEAGUES WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS!

Sajo7

They're going to merge Jesus and Mohammad into one Super Prophet.

XD can't get much better then that!

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#20 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

jubino

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

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#21 jubino
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[QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

Jaysonguy

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

Yeah, but at the time he wasn't a baby killer. I doubt ol Obama would even dare to ask for their support anymore.

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#22 johnnyv2003
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

So... you're saying we should all vote for Obama?

Sajo7

I think he wants us to vote for Ron Paul, he hates acorns.

how dare you bring Ron Paul into this....he's nothing but for the advancement of the acorn.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

jubino

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

Yeah, but at the time he wasn't a baby killer. I doubt ol Obama would even dare to ask for their support anymore.

Jesus Christ knows what Obama will choose. We are simply living our lives as Jesus sees

So therefore Jesus Christ knew what would happen in Obama's life and he supported him anyway.

Jesus Christ is on the side of Obama

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That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

Jaysonguy

Jesus isn't the head of the Church.

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#25 jubino
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[QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

Jaysonguy

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

Yeah, but at the time he wasn't a baby killer. I doubt ol Obama would even dare to ask for their support anymore.

Jesus Christ knows what Obama will choose. We are simply living our lives as Jesus sees

So therefore Jesus Christ knew what would happen in Obama's life and he supported him anyway.

Jesus Christ is on the side of Obama

Very insightful. That is true, but there's one problem. Jesus doesn't run the Catholic church. The pope runs it, and even though he's at the top, I doubt it ever made it that far.

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#26 JoeRatz16
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="jubino"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Jesus Christ is for Obama?

Well, I don't think you can do much better then that.

jubino

Maybe before he decided to support baby killing. I don't think the Catholic church would've been down for that.

That's Jesus saying it's right

Jesus Christ pretty much sets down all the rules. If he's for Obama then Obama must be right also.

Yeah, but at the time he wasn't a baby killer. I doubt ol Obama would even dare to ask for their support anymore.

Jesus Christ knows what Obama will choose. We are simply living our lives as Jesus sees

So therefore Jesus Christ knew what would happen in Obama's life and he supported him anyway.

Jesus Christ is on the side of Obama

Very insightful. That is true, but there's one problem. Jesus doesn't run the Catholic church. The pope runs it, and even though he's at the top, I doubt it ever made it that far.

No, not too many people knew about it, not even any of the Bishops. And yes Jesus does run the Catholic Church, who do you think tells the Pope what to do?
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No, not too many people knew about it, not even any of the Bishops. And yes Jesus does run the Catholic Church, who do you think tells the Pope what to do? JoeRatz16

I really hope you're not serious. :?

The Catholic Church goes against Jesus' teachings.

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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]No, not too many people knew about it, not even any of the Bishops. And yes Jesus does run the Catholic Church, who do you think tells the Pope what to do? harashawn

I really hope you're not serious. :?

The Catholic Church goes against Jesus' teachings.

specify, sir.
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#29 harashawn
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specify, sir.JoeRatz16

It is mostly the Catholics who try to convert everyone. Jesus said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Catholics believe the only way to heaven is to be baptized, although Jesus never said that. (Also, the Bible mentions people going to heaven long before John the Baptist even existed.)

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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]specify, sir.harashawn

It is mostly the Catholics who try to convert everyone. Jesus said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Catholics believe the only way to heaven is to be baptized, although Jesus never said that. (Also, the Bible mentions people going to heaven long before John the Baptist even existed.)

The Church seeks to "propose, not impose" Christ to people and rejects forced conversion. And the Church does believe that the unbaptized may still go to Heaven, if they lead good lives and try to follow God in accordance with their understanding of them.
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It is mostly the Catholics who try to convert everyone. Jesus said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Catholics believe the only way to heaven is to be baptized, although Jesus never said that. (Also, the Bible mentions people going to heaven long before John the Baptist even existed.)

harashawn

Great Commission suggests otherwise.