Censoring the "n" word from huck finn

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#1 ihavenonickname
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What are your thoughts of censoring the "n" word from huck finn? I personally think its altering history and completely 1984esque

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#2 PannicAtack
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"1984esque" is an exaggeration. The proper term is "Orwellian" anyway. Also, unlikely to happen. People have been "challenging" that book for years.
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#3 MrMe1000
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i could care less i read the uncensored version a week ago for school it didnt bother me or the black people in my class

it just came from southerners not pronouncing negro right so it just means black person

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#4 ImaPirate0202
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good luck

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#5 Vesica_Prime
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Seems pretty Orwellian to me.

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#6 MgamerBD
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Its literature made from back then. If I'm gonna read the book I might as well read it the way it is supposed to be. Derogatory terms or not. I like to read what is real...I hate when people censor literature.
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#7 gomsepat
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IMO it sounds kind of Orwellian.
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#8 8-Bitterness
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pretty stupid, i can only dream of a time when people dont get offended by such stupid things but yeah why censor it now? plus i suppose it does ruin the story
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#9 -Fromage-
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I'm not bothered by it. Censoring has gotten pretty strict over the years so something like that just seemed like a natural target. And if the removal or changing of the word ruins the story in any way, just get a new book to read.
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#10 Ace6301
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Censorship of classical literature. How pathetic.
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If life were like Grand Theft Auto and political correctness were a hooker, I'd blast her away with a machine gun and get my money back. Then fly off in a jet.

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#12 MagnumPI
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Why Censor the N Word at all? Hehehe, N word. We refer to as "N word"

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]"1984esque" is an exaggeration. The proper term is "Orwellian" anyway. Also, unlikely to happen. People have been "challenging" that book for years.

Actually, no it is happening. I made a thread on this very thing. :P See here
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#14 Cherokee_Jack
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It's hilarious because it defeats the entire purpose of the book. I would actually say it's racist, or at least offensive, to pretend that people didn't use the word in that time and place.
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#15 mrmusicman247
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This topic just reminds me of this.

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#16 jimmyjammer69
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Well, to be fair, it seems only to be the one publisher that's chosen to censor their print of the book. There's nothing wrong with choice in a free market, and people who don't want to buy from NewSouth Books (affiliate of Black Belt Press and founded in Alabama, if that means anything) don't have to.

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#17 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Shouldn't be done.
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#18 Infinite_Access
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It shouldn't be done... PC will be our downfall

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#19 Brozekial
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It pisses me off. Freedom of speech people, freedom of speech. I'm glad I've got a real copy before they decide to try that crap.
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#20 jimmyjammer69
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It pisses me off. Freedom of speech people, freedom of speech. I'm glad I've got a real copy before they decide to try that crap.Brozekial
Who's "they"?:?

I see what you mean, though - there should be some protection guaranteed to prevent works of literature being altered willy nilly. At the moment, a copyright on a work of literature has a limited lifespan (for new books, that's the author's lifetime + 70 years). There is a special exclusion system of perpetual copyright, occaionally granted in Britain to prevent corruption of important works (The King James version of the Bible carries such a perpetual copyright), but this was apparently deemed unconstitutional in the USA.

Oddly enough, it seems like the only solution to the freedom of speech issue you're talking about here is to extend copyright restrictions.

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#21 CptJSparrow
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I'll buy a version that isn't censored...
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#22 Renevent42
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It's a sad day...people have really gone nuts with this PC nonsense. I am all for equality, but whats happening now isn't it...it's just the reverse. Worse yet, people aren't looking at things logically anymore. They aren't taking into account the history of the book or the content...they see one word and react from a totally emotional point of view.

I see this happening in many areas of our society. The more we allow reaction and emotion to dictate our society instead of reason and understanding, the further we will fall.

The bottom line for me is we are not doing our children any good by sheltering them from our past, in fact I believe this is a disservice and those who would do so should be ashamed.

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#23 weezyfb
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yesterdays 10 page thread was 10 pages
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#24 Sp4rtan_3
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Makes 0 sense why they'd change it now. I say leave it in.
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#25 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Words can't be offensive. Its the reason why the word is used that causes offence.

Censoring it is stupid

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#26 Console_Gamer93
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I'm ok with it if its being censored for a specific age group.

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I'm ok with it if its being censored for a specific age group.

Console_Gamer93

You mean the age group that shouldn't be reading it in the first place? It's not a book for children.

I guess you could make an abridged version with all the violence taken out as well, but it wouldn't be the same book at that point.

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#28 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Absurd.. If we focused specifically on that, and not the actual themes of the book.. People would miss the fact that it attacks segregation and racism.. That the white characters in the book act stupid, are ignorant and are self important.. The only rational character was Jim most times, and Huck was a jack ass through a lot of the book if I remember correctly...... I see no reason why they should censor it.. Nor do I see a problem of the kids reading it in Middle School.. Its not as if its to find media outside of the book that uses the n-word, many rap artists use it liberally.
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[QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

I'm ok with it if its being censored for a specific age group.

Cherokee_Jack

You mean the age group that shouldn't be reading it in the first place? It's not a book for children.

I guess you could make an abridged version with all the violence taken out as well, but it wouldn't be the same book at that point.

Sure it is.. I read it in Middle School (hated it too, I do not like Mark Twain's writing style), its a important historical piece..

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

I'm ok with it if its being censored for a specific age group.

sSubZerOo

You mean the age group that shouldn't be reading it in the first place? It's not a book for children.

I guess you could make an abridged version with all the violence taken out as well, but it wouldn't be the same book at that point.

Sure it is.. I read it in Middle School (hated it too, I do not like Mark Twain's writing style), its a important historical piece..

Middle school isn't exactly too young for the book....
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

You mean the age group that shouldn't be reading it in the first place? It's not a book for children.

I guess you could make an abridged version with all the violence taken out as well, but it wouldn't be the same book at that point.

LJS9502_basic

Sure it is.. I read it in Middle School (hated it too, I do not like Mark Twain's writing style), its a important historical piece..

Middle school isn't exactly too young for the book....

Children he stated children.. Middle School is the earliest really be expected to do it based on the reading level you need to comprehend the book.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sure it is.. I read it in Middle School (hated it too, I do not like Mark Twain's writing style), its a important historical piece..

sSubZerOo

Middle school isn't exactly too young for the book....

Children he stated children.. Middle School is the earliest really be expected to do it based on the reading level you need to comprehend the book.

Yes and middle school is not too young to read the book as is.
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#33 Renevent42
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I read some great books in middle school...I wonder if they are still allowed to read Grendel by John Gardner? I remember there was some really gory parts and even some sexually explicit stuff as well. Great book though and glad I read it when I did, that book has stuck with me for a long time and I have even re-read as an adult many times.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Middle school isn't exactly too young for the book....LJS9502_basic

Children he stated children.. Middle School is the earliest really be expected to do it based on the reading level you need to comprehend the book.

Yes and middle school is not too young to read the book as is.

.....Thats great because I said from the beginning..

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#35 hammerofcrom
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I don't see the point in censoring that word in the book. I mean c'mon, chances are they've heard the word long before they read the book.

My English teacher back in the day tried to make us "self censor" when reading a chapter out loud in class.... it didn't work (not for me anyway). I told her I would read the book as written, not any other way. not like anyone in the class could get offended, since it was 15 middle-class white kids in suburban NH.... (hillariously I was never called on to read again, despite volunteering to do so)

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Children he stated children.. Middle School is the earliest really be expected to do it based on the reading level you need to comprehend the book.

sSubZerOo

Yes and middle school is not too young to read the book as is.

.....Thats great because I said from the beginning..

Then why quote him and discuss children? He said it wasn't for a children's book to with.
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#37 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

I'm ok with it if its being censored for a specific age group.

sSubZerOo

You mean the age group that shouldn't be reading it in the first place? It's not a book for children.

I guess you could make an abridged version with all the violence taken out as well, but it wouldn't be the same book at that point.

Sure it is.. I read it in Middle School (hated it too, I do not like Mark Twain's writing style), its a important historical piece..

I'm talking about young children. It's fine for 10+, but if you're younger than that you wouldn't get anything out of the book anyway so there's no point in censoring the n word.
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#38 Overlord93
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I think most kids these days know all these words by the age of 5.

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If I happen to buy a copy of the "censored" book, is it stated anywhere in the book what changes were actually made?

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#40 hartsickdiscipl
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I don't think anybody should go back and edit "bad words" out of a classic book. It takes away from the original flavor.

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#41 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I think that's a bad thing. If anything, that provides some context of the time in which it was written. It allows people to reflect on how society was back then and now.