China blocks its people from Nobel ceremony & makes its own "Nobel&quot

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#1 topsemag55
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BEIJING — Only three weeks after the idea was first publicly floated, China has cobbled together its own peace prize and plans to award it Thursday — the day before the Nobel Committee honors an imprisoned Chinese dissident in a move that has enraged Beijing.

The government is also preventing Liu — who is serving an 11-year sentence for co-authoring a bold appeal for political reforms in the Communist country — and his family members from attending.

Amid the flurry of action came a commentary published on Nov. 17 in a Communist Party-approved tabloid that suggested China create its own award — the "Confucius Peace Prize" — to counter the choice of Liu.

Three weeks later, The Associated Press has learned, China is doing just that.

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Oxford University China scholar Steve Tsang commented, China's heavy-handed reactions in the wake of the announcement, which include putting Liu's wife and other supporters under house arrest and barring dozens of activists from traveling to Oslo, "simply give the rest of the world the impression that human rights is really in trouble in China."

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#2 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Did anyone really expect China to be a beacon of human rights to begin with?

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#3 GabuEx
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Oh, this should be good. I wonder who the nominees will be.

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Did anyone really expect China to be a beacon of human rights to begin with?

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lol. Nope.
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#5 jerk-o-tron2000
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I'm also boycotting the Noble prize and making my own......You really don't win anything though, just a pat in the back.

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#6 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Oh, this should be good. I wonder who the nominees will be.

GabuEx

Obviously you're one of them. :P

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#7 topsemag55
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Oh, this should be good. I wonder who the nominees will be.

GabuEx

The first honoree is Lien Chan, Taiwan's former vice president and the honorary chairman of its Nationalist Party, for having "built a bridge of peace between the mainland and Taiwan." A staffer in his Taipei office said she could not comment Tuesday because she knew nothing about the prize.

Lien was chosen from among eight nominees — some of whom are regularly mentioned for, or have already won, that other peace prize: billionaire Bill Gates, former South African President Nelson Mandela, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and the Panchen Lama, the second-highest figure in Tibetan Buddhism.

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In the meantime, China is chipping away at the Nobel: It succeeded in persuading 18 other countries to boycott the upcoming ceremony, including longtime allies like Pakistan, Venezuela and Cuba as well as business partners Saudi Arabia and Iran.

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#8 v13_KiiLtz
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You should put lots of magazine and newspaper articles in your 10k
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#9 topsemag55
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You should put lots of magazine and newspaper articles in your 10kv13_KiiLtz

I won't be making a 10K - I'm letting that one slide on by.

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#10 __Chris__
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Irony.

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#11 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]You should put lots of magazine and newspaper articles in your 10ktopsemag55

I won't be making a 10K - I'm letting that one slide on by.

Or you could subtly make a topic for your 10k post which has nothing to do with your 10kth post. :P

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#12 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Oh, this should be good. I wonder who the nominees will be.

topsemag55

The first honoree is Lien Chan, Taiwan's former vice president and the honorary chairman of its Nationalist Party, for having "built a bridge of peace between the mainland and Taiwan." A staffer in his Taipei office said she could not comment Tuesday because she knew nothing about the prize.

Lien was chosen from among eight nominees — some of whom are regularly mentioned for, or have already won, that other peace prize: billionaire Bill Gates, former South African President Nelson Mandela, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and the Panchen Lama, the second-highest figure in Tibetan Buddhism.

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In the meantime, China is chipping away at the Nobel: It succeeded in persuading 18 other countries to boycott the upcoming ceremony, including longtime allies like Pakistan, Venezuela and Cuba as well as business partners Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Hmm, well that's less blatantly propaganda-ish than I was expecting; I figured every single nominee would be a member of the Chinese Communist Party. :P

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#13 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Oh, this should be good. I wonder who the nominees will be.

airshocker

Obviously you're one of them. :P

Well I do love me some communism, doncha know.

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#14 topsemag55
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Or you could subtly make a topic for your 10k post which has nothing to do with your 10kth post. :P

coolbeans90

That's an idea.:lol:

I actually mulled over the idea of making a 10K blog article. I haven't made up my mind on that yet.

That is actually more palatable to me, as there won't be any flaming there - my blog is "friends only".:P

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#15 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Or you could subtly make a topic for your 10k post which has nothing to do with your 10kth post. :P

topsemag55

That's an idea.:lol:

I actually mulled over the idea of making a 10K blog article. I haven't made up my mind on that yet.

That is actually more palatable to me, as there won't be any flaming there - my blog is "friends only".:P

We are not friends. :[

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#16 Boostinsane
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i love china. :)

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#17 topsemag55
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We are not friends. :[

coolbeans90

I made my profile private about a year ago, because a person tracked me after I asked him not to. Making it private blocks him, because I didn't track him back.

If you had asked me about 2,000 posts ago, I would have said I was making a 10K, but not now.:P

The left in OT doesn't like me very much (from some of the posts I've been getting lately), so I'm guessing one of two things would happen if I made a 10K - either an open-ended slashfest, or a dead thread.:lol:

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#18 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Well I do love me some communism, doncha know.

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I don't speak North Dakotan. Not anymore. :P

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#19 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

We are not friends. :[

topsemag55

I made my profile private about a year ago, because a person tracked me after I asked him not to. Making it private blocks him, because I didn't track him back.

If you had asked me about 2,000 posts ago, I would have said I was making a 10K, but not now.:P

The left in OT doesn't like me very much (from some of the posts I've been getting lately), so I'm guessing one of two things would happen if I made a 10K - either an open-ended slashfest, or a dead thread.:lol:

Understandable. Well, congrats in advance then.

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#20 topsemag55
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Understandable. Well, congrats in advance then.

coolbeans90

Thanks, coolbeans.:)

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#21 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Well I do love me some communism, doncha know.

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I don't speak North Dakotan. Not anymore. :P

t3hrubikscube would be insulted if she were here. :( :x

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Can't wait for all those old farts in office to die out.
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#23 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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t3hrubikscube would be insulted if she were here. :( :x

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I won't tell if you won't. :D

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#24 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Well I do love me some communism, doncha know.

GabuEx

I don't speak North Dakotan. Not anymore. :P

t3hrubikscube would be insulted if she were here. :( :x

My forum index page shows she is online.:P

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#25 Vader993
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made in china:P

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#26 quetzalcoatI
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I can't blame them tbh. Don't get me wrong, china is dead wrong on the human rights front and the western world should take a stronger stand against it, but the nobel committee seems to be more concerned with trying to be political activists than anything else.

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#27 topsemag55
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I can't blame them tbh. Don't get me wrong, china is dead wrong on the human rights front and the western world should take a stronger stand against it, but the nobel committee seems to be more concerned with trying to be political activists than anything else.

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Do you think the guy in that Chinese prison deserved the Nobel? I don't know a lot about him, that's why I'm asking.

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#28 tonberry007
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the nobel committee seems to be more concerned with trying to be political activists than anything else.

Do you think the guy in that Chinese prison deserved the Nobel? I don't know a lot about him, that's why I'm asking.

topsemag55

Depends on your perspective and standard.

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#29 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Do you think the guy in that Chinese prison deserved the Nobel? I don't know a lot about him, that's why I'm asking.

tonberry007

Depends on your perspective and standard.

Fixed - I didn't type that first sentence.:P

I agree with your answer.

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#30 tonberry007
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Fixed - I didn't type that first sentence.:P

I agree with your answer.

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Yeah, srry for that.

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#31 mrbojangles25
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and the Chinese let their government get away with this...because why?

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#32 Lonelynight
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and the Chinese let their government get away with this...because why?

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#33 GazaAli
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I really like China and its attitude of taking charge, but this is a little uptight.
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#34 Steingrimur
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Sounds reasonable enough, we westerners have no patent on the term "right" and the Nobel Foundation is pretty biased. I personally find these kinds of ceremonies a bit ridiculous, but if China wants to play that game, they are welcome to.

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#35 Treflis
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Since the nobel comitee revealed their nomination, China's government has been very childish in my opinion. First they release a chinese man that had admitted to killing his norwegian girlfriend in Hamburg, Then several buisness completely stopped several buisness ties with Norway and now they're making their own nobel peace prize. It's like the kid that gets angry on a basketball field, picks up the ball and goes home in a tantrum.
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#36 dercoo
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Even with the Nobel prise losing some credit with such idiotic moves like the Obama stunt, they look smart in comparison to this.

Really china.

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I'm also boycotting the Noble prize and making my own......You really don't win anything though, just a pat in the back.

jerk-o-tron2000

Really 1.4 million us dollars (2009 prize money) is nothing well I will take nothing then

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[QUOTE="jerk-o-tron2000"]

I'm also boycotting the Noble prize and making my own......You really don't win anything though, just a pat in the back.

pimpog

Really 1.4 million us dollars (2009 prize money) is nothing well I will take nothing then

I would also like nothing. Nothing would last me my entire life.

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#39 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="jerk-o-tron2000"]

I'm also boycotting the Noble prize and making my own......You really don't win anything though, just a pat in the back.

mrbojangles25

Really 1.4 million us dollars (2009 prize money) is nothing well I will take nothing then

I would also like nothing. Nothing would last me my entire life.

you never get enough of nothing really.
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I'm also boycotting the Noble prize and making my own......You really don't win anything though, just a pat in the back.

jerk-o-tron2000
im going to teach all of these awards clowns a lesson. on awards day(s) im going to stay home dressed like a clown and get hammered.