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#1 AgentA-Mi6
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http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=fur_farm&Player=wm&speed=_med

Peta has been spreading this images across the Internet to make people aware of how cruel the fur industry is. This video shows a raccoon dog being skinned, Shortly after his skin was entirely peeled off over the animal's head the poor thing stares at the camera standing on his bones covered in blood.

watch it and say no to FUR :(

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#2 club-sandwich
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watched it long time ago. ): man this **** makes me sick. :( :cry:
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#3 Dementia_7
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Thanks but the description was enough... and I'm eating.
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#4 H8sMikeMoore
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ouch

but peta still sucks

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#5 NetYankEagle
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after what you just said i dont even want to watch it the image i just had in my head scars me
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#6 Cedmln
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YEah those people are purposely cruel. Kill them first. Then skin them. Makes better sense. Their skin isn't anymore valuable when they are suffering.
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#7 lolwaffles
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thats a veeery cheap way to get people not to use fur you know...

theres some people that DO NEED TO USE FUR if not theyd die of cold or stuff

plus, in china thats a whole different culture and no one knows how animals feel about it...

i dont use fur, but not because of those reasons

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The funny thing is that I am gonna eat some beef loins when its done with potatoes. And damn its good! :twisted:
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#9 Truth_Seekr
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Yea, that video has become widely popular on the internet. Show that video to whoever owns them coats, and I doubt it'll move 'em enough to get rid of it or to not by another.

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#10 sentencedogu
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I thought most of the animals were skinned alive for fur because after killing the skin gets damaged and harder to pull.
Wİld but true, I doN't think it's only Chinese who does this.

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#11 ferrari2001
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Animals definitly shouldn't be treated like that, the only problem with peta is they have a problem with all companies even if they do it humanly, So yes I still hate Peta.
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#12 Trilvester
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That was the most horrible and sad thing I've watched in a long time.
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#13 Nex_Rex
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what the **** is wrong with these people :shock: :cry:
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#14 DeeJayInphinity
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ouch

but peta still sucks

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Yup, I've never liked peta. Damn terrorists
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#15 mowz00
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I've seen this before and its by far the sickest thing I ever seen online.

And I've pretty much seen it all.

No way I'll watch it again.

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#16 yucky_straw
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I've said no to fur along time ago. No animal deserves to suffer.
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#17 SaintLeonidas
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thats a veeery cheap way to get people not to use fur you know...

theres some people that DO NEED TO USE FUR if not theyd die of cold or stuff

plus, in china thats a whole different culture and no one knows how animals feel about it...

i dont use fur, but not because of those reasons

lolwaffles

its completely unnecessary to skin them alive, and you u see us complaining about Eskimos here? no i just dont like those rich people who love fur, it looks stupid and they only wear it to show off, there are none fur jackets that are alot warmer if they need to keep warm.

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#18 clock_of_omens
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animals are tortured in factory farms also, watch the movie meet your meat by peta
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#19 Truth_Seekr
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YEah those people are purposely cruel. Kill them first. Then skin them. Makes better sense. Their skin isn't anymore valuable when they are suffering.Cedmln

Supposedly they do it like that so that the skin doesn't constrict itself as it supposedly oes when they're dead, or something like that. I guess from that, I take it the skin is a lot more loose and flexible/comfortable, and is worth more on the market.

Whatever the deal, having a fur/mink coat is a big embarrassment of all "riches" available

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#20 AgentA-Mi6
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thats a veeery cheap way to get people not to use fur you know...

theres some people that DO NEED TO USE FUR if not theyd die of cold or stuff

plus, in china thats a whole different culture and no one knows how animals feel about it...

i dont use fur, but not because of those reasons

lolwaffles

HA! First of all that is mostly exportation FUR therefore meant for commerce, its NOT for survival purposes.

If those guys had Honor they'd use drugs to sleep the animals and inject lethal serum after, I dont give a straw if its ten times more expensive.

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#21 Boba_Fett_3710
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I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

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#22 yucky_straw
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animals are tortured in factory farms also, watch the movie meet your meat by petaclock_of_omens

Yes. Pigs are very intelligent creatures and they are tortured, not just killed, everyday at factory farms. Not to mention the cruelty that also happens to cows and horses.

Everyone should watch the 'meet your meat' videos.

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#23 tb254
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That is sick but I still hate peta, though that one button that says I am not a nugget is pretty funny.
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I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

Boba_Fett_3710

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

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#25 tb254
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[QUOTE="clock_of_omens"]animals are tortured in factory farms also, watch the movie meet your meat by petayucky_straw

Yes. Pigs are very intelligent creatures and they are tortured, not just killed, everyday at factory farms. Not to mention the cruelty that also happens to cows and horses.

Everyone should watch the 'meet your meat' videos.

You know why I hate PETA its because that they consider people who do eat meat to be evil, and cruel, and if they don't convert there to be avoided, there's a few members at my school who constantly sneer, or go ew when ever I say I eat meat.

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#26 DDX2
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as if I haven't seen enough gore on /b/

thanks for making me aware, I never had any plans to buy a fur coat or what not, but now I never will.

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#27 BlackAlpha666
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thats a veeery cheap way to get people not to use fur you know...

theres some people that DO NEED TO USE FUR if not theyd die of cold or stuff

plus, in china thats a whole different culture and no one knows how animals feel about it...

i dont use fur, but not because of those reasons

lolwaffles

Yeah, it's not like they feel any pain or anything. Infact, they enjoy being skinned alive.

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#28 Boba_Fett_3710
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I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

AgentA-Mi6

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

If you are comparing humans to animals in hopes of changing my mind you have failed. Hey, I love animals, I really do but this really isn't on the top of my "Monstrosities of the world" to-do list.

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#29 SaintLeonidas
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I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

Boba_Fett_3710

yeah and I feel bad for them too, doesn't mean you have to be heartless when it comes to animal cruelty.

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#30 sentencedogu
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Thats really wild.....human nature....
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Peta has been known to do some...weird things. (Raiding a modeling show by punching models in the face.)

I think China should at least put the animals to sleep when the skinners skin the animals. Less harm is done to the poor animal. I know my dog feels pain when he scrapes his legs on the wooden stairs, so these animals are in deeper pain than just a tiny scratch.

I like foe fur. It's fuzzy and fake. I will never buy real fur, but I do buy leather sometimes. :/

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#32 lolwaffles
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well...

its just tht peta pisses me off, a lot but anyway!

isnt it supposed that the animal skin kinda ruins if the animal is dead?

yah, well some people gotta earn money any way they can get :|

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#33 BlackAlpha666
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

Boba_Fett_3710

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

If you are comparing humans to animals in hopes of changing my mind you have failed. Hey, I love animals, I really do but this really isn't on the top of my "Monstrosities of the world" to-do list.

At the very least you could confirm how cruel and heartless it is, it takes the same effort as your above post. Instead you confirm how cruel and heartless you are.

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#34 SaintLeonidas
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well...

its just tht peta pisses me off, a lot but anyway!

isnt it supposed that the animal skin kinda ruins if the animal is dead?

yah, well some people gotta earn money any way they can get :|

lolwaffles

how in any way would that effect the skin? Killing it and then a minute later skinning it, I dont see how thr fur would be effected and if so it be so small then people shouldnt care.

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#35 Boba_Fett_3710
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At the very least you could confirm how cruel and heartless it is, it takes the same effort as your above post. Instead you confirm how cruel and heartless you are.

BlackAlpha666

Ok, it's cruel. It's heartless.

C'mon, what do you want me to do? I don't wear fur.

What are you doing to stop this from happening?

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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

AgentA-Mi6

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

Humans and animals have way different mentalities. They care for their families but not in a way like us, they only raise their babies for the survival of their speices, its instinct. Hell some animals have been known to eat their babies like hamsters, I owned a couple and the mother ate at least two of them, she only left the severe head, thats not love if you ask me. The animal kingdom is indeed a cruel savage thing...

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

tzar3

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

Humans and animals have way different mentalities. They care for their families but not in a way like us, they only raise their babies for the survival of their speices, its instinct. Hell some animals have been known to eat their babies like hamsters, I owned a couple and the mother ate at least two of them, she only left the severe head, thats not love if you ask me. The animal kingdom is indeed a cruel savage thing...

at least they don't skin each other alive

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#38 Boba_Fett_3710
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at least they don't skin each other alive

spark5050

No? Animals eat other animals, most the time they don't even bother killing them before eating them.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

tzar3

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

Humans and animals have way different mentalities. They care for their families but not in a way like us, they only raise their babies for the survival of their speices, its instinct. Hell some animals have been known to eat their babies like hamsters, I owned a couple and the mother ate at least two of them, she only left the severe head, thats not love if you ask me. The animal kingdom is indeed a cruel savage thing...

Humans can do even worse things then that. Like dumping a baby into a garbage can and hoping nobody will notice as the baby is being squashed together inside the garbage truck. I've heard some extreme horror stories about what mothers sometimes do to their babies. Cutting up the baby's body, putting each limb, together with a rock, inside a plastic bag and then throwing them at different locations into the river.

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#40 lolwaffles
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[QUOTE="lolwaffles"]

well...

its just tht peta pisses me off, a lot but anyway!

isnt it supposed that the animal skin kinda ruins if the animal is dead?

yah, well some people gotta earn money any way they can get :|

SaintLeonidas

how in any way would that effect the skin? Killing it and then a minute later skinning it, I dont see how thr fur would be effected and if so it be so small then people shouldnt care.

oh well, the employees would become lazy, making piles of dead bodies to skin and when you die your body gets all hardened, so yeah, the skin would be hard and there wouldnt be comfty coats to wear for rich famous people...

cuz the skin would be screwed, and no one likes to wear stupid uncomfty clothes

plus why does it matter that much, theyre only animals, and as people talk about them.. they must have no feelings, cuz people SOME PEOPLE are like yah, animals got no feelings only instinct blahblah blahhhh

then they dont feel pain ¬¬

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#41 spark5050
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[QUOTE="spark5050"]

at least they don't skin each other alive

Boba_Fett_3710

No? Animals eat other animals, most the time they don't even bother killing them before eating them.

the difference is we don't need to skin them alive, we don't need theyre coats for warmth anymore its not the 15th century anymore. Plus theres the fact that when an animal eats another animal it doesn't think that it is causing pain, but humans are making a conscious decision to inflict pain

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Thank, but alot of people already know.
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I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

Boba_Fett_3710

In all honesty, I care more about an animal, then I do a human. You wont see an animal such as dog or cat randomly walk up and steal a car, or kill five people in a bank robbery. Animals run off instinct, on what they need, humans run simply off greed, what they want. And I'm not any different. You'll never find a person that is as loyal or loves you as much as a dog will, or cat for the matter, though cats are more independent than dogs in that aspect.

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#45 Boba_Fett_3710
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the difference is we don't need to skin them alive, we don't need theyre coats for warmth anymore its not the 15th century anymore. Plus theres the fact that when an animal eats another animal it doesn't think that it is causing pain, but humans are making a conscious decision to inflict pain

spark5050

Look, I'm not going to defend their tactics because I do belive that it is wrong. Obviously there is still a demand for fur, which is idiotic.

In the end, this is what life really looks like.

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#46 spark5050
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[QUOTE="spark5050"]

the difference is we don't need to skin them alive, we don't need theyre coats for warmth anymore its not the 15th century anymore. Plus theres the fact that when an animal eats another animal it doesn't think that it is causing pain, but humans are making a conscious decision to inflict pain

Boba_Fett_3710

Look, I'm not going to defend their tactics because I do belive that it is wrong. Obviously there is still a demand for fur, which is idiotic.

In the end, this is what life really looks like.

maybe 'this is what life really looks like' because of people like you who try to justify things that are obviously wrong. Plus why the sudden change of tone you've gone from defending what they're doing to saying ' I don't defend they're tactics'

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#47 Boba_Fett_3710
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maybe 'this is what life really looks like' because of people like you who try to justify things that are obviously wrong. Plus why the sudden change of tone you've gone from defending what they're doing to saying ' I don't defend they're tactics'

spark5050

Calm down, I don't need to be barked at by some kid at the end of my work day.

People like me? Never once did I justify what was happening. Hell, I even said I was against it.

I've never defended skinning a live animal, never. I simply said that there are much more important things to worry about and if I had to choose, this would not be my most important issue.

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[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

BlackAlpha666

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

Humans and animals have way different mentalities. They care for their families but not in a way like us, they only raise their babies for the survival of their speices, its instinct. Hell some animals have been known to eat their babies like hamsters, I owned a couple and the mother ate at least two of them, she only left the severe head, thats not love if you ask me. The animal kingdom is indeed a cruel savage thing...

Humans can do even worse things then that. Like dumping a baby into a garbage can and hoping nobody will notice as the baby is being squashed together inside the garbage truck. I've heard some extreme horror stories about what mothers sometimes do to their babies. Cutting up the baby's body, putting each limb, together with a rock, inside a plastic bag and then throwing them at different locations into the river.

Then we humans are no better than animals I am afraid, and thats not how we are suppose to be, but hey we live in a **** up world and we gotta live with it.

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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="spark5050"]

the difference is we don't need to skin them alive, we don't need theyre coats for warmth anymore its not the 15th century anymore. Plus theres the fact that when an animal eats another animal it doesn't think that it is causing pain, but humans are making a conscious decision to inflict pain

spark5050

Look, I'm not going to defend their tactics because I do belive that it is wrong. Obviously there is still a demand for fur, which is idiotic.

In the end, this is what life really looks like.

maybe 'this is what life really looks like' because of people like you who try to justify things that are obviously wrong. Plus why the sudden change of tone you've gone from defending what they're doing to saying ' I don't defend they're tactics'

Probably because he is realistic in his beliefs and he knows that the best we can do is minimize it as much as we can.
The people who do this don't care about you or your little protests. They just care about putting food on the table and if they have to slaughter a raccoon, then they will. It's raw survival dude. It's something you most likely have not experienced yet.
And this is why peta pisses me off so much. They go around causing trouble to people that are not even involved in this. They go up to people with fur and throw paint on them. Wtf is that? They barrage you with disgusting images as you try to talk into a KFC. Wtf? Get out of my face you jerk!
Those people are just terrorists and they use their stupid tactics and sick phrases such as "animal suffering is equivalent to the holocaust!!!1" to try to scare you into giving them money that wont do squat to help the animals.
And then there are people like you who look down on people like boba because he's realistic about life.
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#50 BlackAlpha666
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[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I don't understand it. People are being slaughtered, children are being sold as sex slaves and PETA expects me to care what's happening to a bunch of damn animals?

No dice.

tzar3

How would you feel if somebody kidnapped you and your family and make you all wait in a small insalubrious cage to have your skins peeled off over your heads?

I bet you'd appreciate if someone cared about you all and try to stop it from happening.

Humans and animals have way different mentalities. They care for their families but not in a way like us, they only raise their babies for the survival of their speices, its instinct. Hell some animals have been known to eat their babies like hamsters, I owned a couple and the mother ate at least two of them, she only left the severe head, thats not love if you ask me. The animal kingdom is indeed a cruel savage thing...

Humans can do even worse things then that. Like dumping a baby into a garbage can and hoping nobody will notice as the baby is being squashed together inside the garbage truck. I've heard some extreme horror stories about what mothers sometimes do to their babies. Cutting up the baby's body, putting each limb, together with a rock, inside a plastic bag and then throwing them at different locations into the river.

Then we humans are no better than animals I am afraid, and thats not how we are suppose to be, but hey we live in a **** up world and we gotta live with it.

The only reason why we have good things in life is because we can identify the screwed up things and we do everything we can to stop those things from happening. That's the only reason why you are sitting behind your PC in your own house and not in some cage where you get tortured and raped by a random psychopath.

Just because screwed up things happen in life doesn't mean that you must ignore them and let them happen anway. Because if you do that, the world will be a whole lot more screwed up then it is right now and then your worst nightmares and awful things you could've never imagined will come true. So don't say we got to live with it because we don't have to.